Should/Will Draymond Green be a HOFer?
Moderators: Domejandro, infinite11285, Harry Garris, ken6199, Dirk, bisme37, KingDavid, bwgood77, zimpy27, cupcakesnake
Should/Will Draymond Green be a HOFer?
- ElectricMayhem
- RealGM
- Posts: 10,097
- And1: 11,148
- Joined: Jul 01, 2006
- Location: Kobe-Osaka
Should/Will Draymond Green be a HOFer?
I realize this question is a long way off, but ASSUMING A STANDARD GROWTH AND DECLINE CURVE, do you see Draymond Green eventually being enshrined in the Hall of Fame?
Pros:
★He has been called the heartbeat and leader of one of the greatest teams in NBA history.
★He is an elite defender. Considered to be the 1b best defender the past couple years. May finally get DPOY this year.
★Extraordinarily high BBall IQ which leads to him doing many of the things not captured by standard statistics (ball movement, picks, blocking out, etc.)
★Also has shown to put up ridiculous stats at times (NBA's first triple double without points)
★NCAA success: Two final four runs including becoming the 3rd player in NCAA history with multiple triple doubles in the tournament(after Oscar Robertson and Magic Johnson).
★2016 Olympic Gold Medalist
Cons:
★Even the Bulls dynasty only had three HOFers: Jordan, Pippen, and Rodman. Golden State hasn't yet achieved such sustained success. Obviously Curry and Durant will be in the HOF. If they don't win more will they warrant a third? Will it be Dray over Klay?
★Doesn't overwhelm any standard stat categories.
★Many argue he wouldn't be nearly as good if he weren't surrounded by the talent GS has.
★Possibly cost GS a championship with his 2016 suspension.
★Considered an elite defender but still has 0 DPOYs. HOF rarely rewards defenders anyway.
★Would be first HOFer to have sent his junk out on snapchat (On the other hand, would they put a bust of it in the HOF?)
Pros:
★He has been called the heartbeat and leader of one of the greatest teams in NBA history.
★He is an elite defender. Considered to be the 1b best defender the past couple years. May finally get DPOY this year.
★Extraordinarily high BBall IQ which leads to him doing many of the things not captured by standard statistics (ball movement, picks, blocking out, etc.)
★Also has shown to put up ridiculous stats at times (NBA's first triple double without points)
★NCAA success: Two final four runs including becoming the 3rd player in NCAA history with multiple triple doubles in the tournament(after Oscar Robertson and Magic Johnson).
★2016 Olympic Gold Medalist
Cons:
★Even the Bulls dynasty only had three HOFers: Jordan, Pippen, and Rodman. Golden State hasn't yet achieved such sustained success. Obviously Curry and Durant will be in the HOF. If they don't win more will they warrant a third? Will it be Dray over Klay?
★Doesn't overwhelm any standard stat categories.
★Many argue he wouldn't be nearly as good if he weren't surrounded by the talent GS has.
★Possibly cost GS a championship with his 2016 suspension.
★Considered an elite defender but still has 0 DPOYs. HOF rarely rewards defenders anyway.
★Would be first HOFer to have sent his junk out on snapchat (On the other hand, would they put a bust of it in the HOF?)
At the end of the day, it's not about wins and losses. Teamwork, fair play, and good sportsmanship make champions of us all.
Go arbitrary assortment of athletes! Beat the other arbitrary assortment of athletes or my mood will suffer!
Go arbitrary assortment of athletes! Beat the other arbitrary assortment of athletes or my mood will suffer!
Re: Should/Will Draymond Green be a HOFer?
-
- Bench Warmer
- Posts: 1,324
- And1: 1,537
- Joined: Apr 07, 2016
Re: Should/Will Draymond Green be a HOFer?
If the Dubs keep winning championships and Dray stays about the same (meaning perennial DPOY candidate on a championship team) I don't see how he doesn't make it like Rodman did.
He will need some personal accolades though, like all defense teams or at least all star selections because to me it looks like the voters make decisions based on stats with Ben Wallace not making the hall this year being the most recent example.
Draymond isn't a 4 time DPOY yet but I expect him to be by the end of his career and he already is a part of more championship teams than Big Ben.
He will need some personal accolades though, like all defense teams or at least all star selections because to me it looks like the voters make decisions based on stats with Ben Wallace not making the hall this year being the most recent example.
Draymond isn't a 4 time DPOY yet but I expect him to be by the end of his career and he already is a part of more championship teams than Big Ben.
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is.
- Jan L. A. van de Snepscheut
- Jan L. A. van de Snepscheut
Re: Should/Will Draymond Green be a HOFer?
- ElectricMayhem
- RealGM
- Posts: 10,097
- And1: 11,148
- Joined: Jul 01, 2006
- Location: Kobe-Osaka
Re: Should/Will Draymond Green be a HOFer?
Thanks for the heads up
Edited!
Edited!
At the end of the day, it's not about wins and losses. Teamwork, fair play, and good sportsmanship make champions of us all.
Go arbitrary assortment of athletes! Beat the other arbitrary assortment of athletes or my mood will suffer!
Go arbitrary assortment of athletes! Beat the other arbitrary assortment of athletes or my mood will suffer!
Re: Should/Will Draymond Green be a HOFer?
-
- RealGM
- Posts: 19,792
- And1: 14,221
- Joined: Dec 04, 2016
Re: Should/Will Draymond Green be a HOFer?
I don't know. This could go either way. He's not the best player on his team and never has been. Aren't HOF'ers usually the best players on their teams? His antics also hurt GSW in the 2016 finals to the point that many argue he cost them a championship.
Re: Should/Will Draymond Green be a HOFer?
- OdomFan
- General Manager
- Posts: 8,154
- And1: 6,584
- Joined: Jan 07, 2017
- Location: Maryland
Re: Should/Will Draymond Green be a HOFer?
The only way I see Green getting in is if they induct the entire Warriors squad as a unit for breaking the season record.
Re: Should/Will Draymond Green be a HOFer?
-
- RealGM
- Posts: 15,014
- And1: 2,683
- Joined: Jun 24, 2001
Re: Should/Will Draymond Green be a HOFer?
Greens stats are comparable to Wes Unseld. He will need to win a few more titles
Re: Should/Will Draymond Green be a HOFer?
- Stephback 3
- Sophomore
- Posts: 246
- And1: 440
- Joined: May 10, 2016
Re: Should/Will Draymond Green be a HOFer?
He has become the gold standard for a prototype, modern stretch four. He is the vocal and defensive leader of a dynasty, the likes of which have broken the single regular season record for wins, recorded the best 3-year regular season stretch in NBA history and have won championships including a historic 16-1 playoff run. He has played a major role of contribution in all these accomplishments.
Draymond Green will definitely make it into the Hall of Fame, as he should.
Draymond Green will definitely make it into the Hall of Fame, as he should.
jamaalstar21 wrote:Kawhi is long chill Jordan and Jordan is Kawhi on crack.
Re: Should/Will Draymond Green be a HOFer?
-
- Assistant Coach
- Posts: 4,314
- And1: 5,119
- Joined: Jul 05, 2015
Re: Should/Will Draymond Green be a HOFer?
Of course ... I mean you got guys on the PC board saying he's better then a prime KG and that he'll be a top 20 player of all time
He must be a lock I guess
He must be a lock I guess
Re: Should/Will Draymond Green be a HOFer?
-
- General Manager
- Posts: 8,593
- And1: 4,202
- Joined: Jan 03, 2016
Re: Should/Will Draymond Green be a HOFer?
DROB27 wrote:Of course ... I mean you got guys on the PC board saying he's better then a prime KG and that he'll be a top 20 player of all time
He must be a lock I guess
did they really say that?? Man we have to have a bunch of teenagers on this website.
Re: Should/Will Draymond Green be a HOFer?
- miamiheat319
- Veteran
- Posts: 2,735
- And1: 6,890
- Joined: Dec 28, 2014
- Location: The Moon
Re: Should/Will Draymond Green be a HOFer?
Shouldn't, but will.
NBA Jersey connoisseur
https://youtu.be/k-PaOWxvnz0
https://youtu.be/k-PaOWxvnz0
Re: Should/Will Draymond Green be a HOFer?
-
- Head Coach
- Posts: 6,285
- And1: 2,058
- Joined: Nov 06, 2009
Re: Should/Will Draymond Green be a HOFer?
undoubtedly hofer imo
he doesn't have a dominant stat, but his style of play is ideal in the current small ball era with tweeners, and his skill set is exactly what every single team is looking for. he is a key figure of the modern day forward amongst others such as millsap, and has proven himself to be an elite all nba player.
he doesn't have a dominant stat, but his style of play is ideal in the current small ball era with tweeners, and his skill set is exactly what every single team is looking for. he is a key figure of the modern day forward amongst others such as millsap, and has proven himself to be an elite all nba player.
Re: Should/Will Draymond Green be a HOFer?
-
- Lead Assistant
- Posts: 5,676
- And1: 7,117
- Joined: Feb 20, 2014
- Location: Perth, Australia
Re: Should/Will Draymond Green be a HOFer?
If he fell off a cliff now? No
If he has another 2-3 years where he picks up another all star, is in the second/third NBA teams, yeah he'll be in it easily
If he has another 2-3 years where he picks up another all star, is in the second/third NBA teams, yeah he'll be in it easily
Re: Should/Will Draymond Green be a HOFer?
-
- Lead Assistant
- Posts: 4,679
- And1: 6,499
- Joined: May 01, 2014
Re: Should/Will Draymond Green be a HOFer?
DROB27 wrote:Of course ... I mean you got guys on the PC board saying he's better then a prime KG and that he'll be a top 20 player of all time
He must be a lock I guess
... I dont even want to believe someone said this are they now banned?
Re: Should/Will Draymond Green be a HOFer?
-
- Assistant Coach
- Posts: 4,314
- And1: 5,119
- Joined: Jul 05, 2015
Re: Should/Will Draymond Green be a HOFer?
KHRICH wrote:DROB27 wrote:Of course ... I mean you got guys on the PC board saying he's better then a prime KG and that he'll be a top 20 player of all time
He must be a lock I guess
... I dont even want to believe someone said this are they now banned?
Nope lol seen it In the "player of the year thread "
Re: Should/Will Draymond Green be a HOFer?
-
- Head Coach
- Posts: 7,362
- And1: 8,894
- Joined: Jan 29, 2006
- Contact:
Re: Should/Will Draymond Green be a HOFer?
If he does make the HOF, the standards need to be raised.
Will Al Horford make the hall of fame? Will Paul Milsap? Will Marc Gasol?
If he was on any other team, this question wouldn't be asked. So no, I don't think a guy should go to the HOF because of the situation he's in.
Will Al Horford make the hall of fame? Will Paul Milsap? Will Marc Gasol?
If he was on any other team, this question wouldn't be asked. So no, I don't think a guy should go to the HOF because of the situation he's in.
Re: Should/Will Draymond Green be a HOFer?
- Scizzup
- Veteran
- Posts: 2,947
- And1: 1,995
- Joined: Nov 27, 2016
Re: Should/Will Draymond Green be a HOFer?
basketball hof is pretty weak. if he wins 2more titles and more all nba team/all star. Yes, maybe not first ballot but eventually
Re: Should/Will Draymond Green be a HOFer?
-
- RealGM
- Posts: 16,565
- And1: 7,035
- Joined: May 25, 2013
- Contact:
Re: Should/Will Draymond Green be a HOFer?
Yes he will
When he wins DPOY and wins titles it could be a lock
When he wins DPOY and wins titles it could be a lock
Re: Should/Will Draymond Green be a HOFer?
- MartinToVaught
- RealGM
- Posts: 15,091
- And1: 17,126
- Joined: Oct 19, 2014
Re: Should/Will Draymond Green be a HOFer?
He probably will be a HOFer, just because the Hall of Fame has absolutely no standards and has become the Hall of Pretty Good. If the average fan recognizes your name, you are probably a lock at some point.
As for whether or not he should be one: the only way Draymond deserves to be in the Hall of Fame is if he buys a ticket.
As for whether or not he should be one: the only way Draymond deserves to be in the Hall of Fame is if he buys a ticket.
Re: Should/Will Draymond Green be a HOFer?
- 3Diamantidis
- Lead Assistant
- Posts: 5,069
- And1: 3,300
- Joined: Mar 21, 2015
- Location: Klopp's camp
Re: Should/Will Draymond Green be a HOFer?
lakerz12 wrote:If he does make the HOF, the standards need to be raised.
Will Al Horford make the hall of fame? Will Paul Milsap? Will Marc Gasol?
If he was on any other team, this question wouldn't be asked. So no, I don't think a guy should go to the HOF because of the situation he's in.
None of these guys have his personality, his leading skills, his overall game.
He will go down in history as the leader of one of the greatest teams of all time.
And yes, he will deserve it.
Re: Should/Will Draymond Green be a HOFer?
-
- Head Coach
- Posts: 7,362
- And1: 8,894
- Joined: Jan 29, 2006
- Contact:
Re: Should/Will Draymond Green be a HOFer?
3Diamantidis wrote:lakerz12 wrote:If he does make the HOF, the standards need to be raised.
Will Al Horford make the hall of fame? Will Paul Milsap? Will Marc Gasol?
If he was on any other team, this question wouldn't be asked. So no, I don't think a guy should go to the HOF because of the situation he's in.
None of these guys have his personality, his leading skills, his overall game.
He will go down in history as the leader of one of the greatest teams of all time.
And yes, he will deserve it.
The leader? He's not the leader. They could trade him for any of those guys I mentioned and still win the championship this year.
Before they added KD, imagine if Curry got injured last year. Would they even reach the second round of the playoffs?