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All things Draft Pick. #3

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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1521 » by pb-ceo » Mon Jun 19, 2017 3:48 am

Purple_Hero wrote:Am I the only person that thinks the 76ers might trade the #1 pick? Why would they agree to trade for the pick now when they could have waited until draft night?

nope. he is a sixer. they think they have a great big 3 and who is to argue. they are going to be fun to watch.
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1522 » by Captain_Caveman » Mon Jun 19, 2017 3:49 am

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CrowderKeg wrote:If we're not in on PG, just shows ownership wants no part of that tax bill (or there's a different target?). My question now is...

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Well that guy plays Littlefinger on Game of Thrones, who's always got the master plan


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Post#1523 » by The Corey's » Mon Jun 19, 2017 3:51 am

Tomorrow we shall know if we're in on a trade or free agent.

I'm still holding out a tiny bit of hope for something positive to happen but I doubt Davis is walking through that door
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1524 » by 31to6 » Mon Jun 19, 2017 3:59 am

Jaqua92 wrote:^For real.

Paul George is the best player we could acquire over the next few years. Take the risk if you dont loose much


? Seems weird to me, given that I don't see any clear evidence he's the best player we could acquire this summer:

Player WS OBPM DBPM BPM VORP PER Cost
Paul George 7.1 3.1 -0.3 2.8 3.2 20.2 Assets
Jimmy Butler 13.8 5.8 1.1 6.9 6.3 25.1 Assets
Gordon Hayward 10.4 4.2 0.0 4.2 4.0 22.2 Cash
Blake Griffin 7.7 3.2 1.3 4.4 3.4 22.6 Cash

The next several years? Who knows who or what shakes out. I personally think we should look to the high lottery for most of our premier talent.

I'll say this though: Paul George *looks* phenomenal playing basketball. Like the ideal basketball player. But I don't see any reason to get hung up on feeling we need to acquire him.
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Post#1525 » by juandavidgv » Mon Jun 19, 2017 3:59 am

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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1526 » by Jaqua92 » Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:01 am

31to6 wrote:
Jaqua92 wrote:^For real.

Paul George is the best player we could acquire over the next few years. Take the risk if you dont loose much


? Seems weird to me, given that I don't see any clear evidence he's the best player we could acquire this summer:

Player WS OBPM DBPM BPM VORP PER Cost
Paul George 7.1 3.1 -0.3 2.8 3.2 20.2 Assets
Jimmy Butler 13.8 5.8 1.1 6.9 6.3 25.1 Assets
Gordon Hayward 10.4 4.2 0.0 4.2 4.0 22.2 Cash
Blake Griffin 7.7 3.2 1.3 4.4 3.4 22.6 Cash

The next several years? Who knows who or what shakes out. I personally think we should look to the high lottery for most of our premier talent though.

I'll say this though: Paul George *looks* phenomenal playing basketball. Like the idea basketball player. But I don't see any reason to get hung up on feeling we need to acquire him.



Im talking talent. He is better than Hayward, Griffin, and Butler.

We don't need him. But this is too good an opportunity to test out. At least make an offer.

Advanced stats also dont measure intangibles, nor do they measure human psychology, and the effect that has on physical performance, situational confidence, comfort etc.

Stats paint a nice picture, but they aren't the whole picture. We are instinctual animals. No stats can fully measure the miracle of human existence, and it's ability to perform task.

That said, I like PER. However there is context to that as well that is both measurable and not measurable.
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1527 » by 31to6 » Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:04 am

Jaqua92 wrote:
31to6 wrote:
Jaqua92 wrote:^For real.

Paul George is the best player we could acquire over the next few years. Take the risk if you dont loose much


? Seems weird to me, given that I don't see any clear evidence he's the best player we could acquire this summer:

Player WS OBPM DBPM BPM VORP PER Cost
Paul George 7.1 3.1 -0.3 2.8 3.2 20.2 Assets
Jimmy Butler 13.8 5.8 1.1 6.9 6.3 25.1 Assets
Gordon Hayward 10.4 4.2 0.0 4.2 4.0 22.2 Cash
Blake Griffin 7.7 3.2 1.3 4.4 3.4 22.6 Cash

The next several years? Who knows who or what shakes out. I personally think we should look to the high lottery for most of our premier talent though.

I'll say this though: Paul George *looks* phenomenal playing basketball. Like the idea basketball player. But I don't see any reason to get hung up on feeling we need to acquire him.



Im talking talent. He is better than Hayward, Griffin, and Butler.

We don't need him. But this is too good an opportunity to test out. At least make an offer.


Well I learned something: formatting a table works for beans on RealGM. Sorry about that! George more talented than Griffin? Healthier, sure. Talent, fit, and potential cost of acquisition? All lean towards Blake for me.

But sure if we could get PG without touching a lottery pick or Jaylen, I'm all for it, and I have no doubt Danny's already put in 6 or 7 bids :)
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Post#1528 » by 31to6 » Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:06 am

Jaqua92 wrote:Advanced stats also dont measure intangibles, nor do they measure human psychology, and the effect that has on physical performance, situational confidence, comfort etc.

Stats paint a nice picture, but they aren't the whole picture. We are instinctual animals. No stats can fully measure the miracle of human existence, and it's ability to perform task


:) I promise you I love rhetorical flare and the contemplation of the mysteries of the cosmos, but Paul George is like the least clutch guy out there and repeatedly threw his teammates under the bus in the playoffs. He's cold as ICE in that Gatorade commercial though!
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Post#1529 » by Jaqua92 » Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:06 am

31to6 wrote:
Jaqua92 wrote:
31to6 wrote:
? Seems weird to me, given that I don't see any clear evidence he's the best player we could acquire this summer:

Player WS OBPM DBPM BPM VORP PER Cost
Paul George 7.1 3.1 -0.3 2.8 3.2 20.2 Assets
Jimmy Butler 13.8 5.8 1.1 6.9 6.3 25.1 Assets
Gordon Hayward 10.4 4.2 0.0 4.2 4.0 22.2 Cash
Blake Griffin 7.7 3.2 1.3 4.4 3.4 22.6 Cash

The next several years? Who knows who or what shakes out. I personally think we should look to the high lottery for most of our premier talent though.

I'll say this though: Paul George *looks* phenomenal playing basketball. Like the idea basketball player. But I don't see any reason to get hung up on feeling we need to acquire him.



Im talking talent. He is better than Hayward, Griffin, and Butler.

We don't need him. But this is too good an opportunity to test out. At least make an offer.


Well I learned something: formatting a table works for beans on RealGM. Sorry about that! George more talented than Griffin? Healthier, sure. Talent, fit, and potential cost of acquisition? All lean towards Blake for me.

But sure if we could get PG without touching a lottery pick or Jaylen, I'm all for it, and I have no doubt Danny's already put in 6 or 7 bids :)


Blake is injured every year, I dont trust him

I just hope we can acquire more than 1 star lol
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1530 » by Jaqua92 » Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:08 am

31to6 wrote:
Jaqua92 wrote:
31to6 wrote:
? Seems weird to me, given that I don't see any clear evidence he's the best player we could acquire this summer:

Player WS OBPM DBPM BPM VORP PER Cost
Paul George 7.1 3.1 -0.3 2.8 3.2 20.2 Assets
Jimmy Butler 13.8 5.8 1.1 6.9 6.3 25.1 Assets
Gordon Hayward 10.4 4.2 0.0 4.2 4.0 22.2 Cash
Blake Griffin 7.7 3.2 1.3 4.4 3.4 22.6 Cash

The next several years? Who knows who or what shakes out. I personally think we should look to the high lottery for most of our premier talent though.

I'll say this though: Paul George *looks* phenomenal playing basketball. Like the idea basketball player. But I don't see any reason to get hung up on feeling we need to acquire him.



Im talking talent. He is better than Hayward, Griffin, and Butler.

We don't need him. But this is too good an opportunity to test out. At least make an offer.

Advanced stats also dont measure intangibles, nor do they measure human psychology, and the effect that has on physical performance, situational confidence, comfort etc.

Stats paint a nice picture, but they aren't the whole picture. We are instinctual animals. No stats can fully measure the miracle of human existence, and it's ability to perform task[
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:) I promise you I love rhetorical flare and the contemplation of the mysteries of the cosmos, but Paul George is like the least clutch guy out there and repeatedly threw his teammates under the bus in the playoffs. He's cold as ICE in that Gatorade commercial though!


He is not clutch, this is true.

And who doesn't love pondering existence itself? :D
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1531 » by 31to6 » Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:14 am

Jaqua92 wrote:
31to6 wrote:
Jaqua92 wrote:

Im talking talent. He is better than Hayward, Griffin, and Butler.

We don't need him. But this is too good an opportunity to test out. At least make an offer.


Well I learned something: formatting a table works for beans on RealGM. Sorry about that! George more talented than Griffin? Healthier, sure. Talent, fit, and potential cost of acquisition? All lean towards Blake for me.

But sure if we could get PG without touching a lottery pick or Jaylen, I'm all for it, and I have no doubt Danny's already put in 6 or 7 bids :)


Blake is injured every year, I dont trust him

I just hope we can acquire more than 1 star lol


1. Nothing wrong with that; I'll drive anyone on this roster other than Jaylen to any airport of Danny's choosing as long as he doesn't send a BRK or LAL pick with them.

2. I totally respect the avoid-Blake-due-to-injury-risk idea. I'd be willing to roll the dice but realize they may not come up well.

3. I've been calling PG overrated all year now so couldn't help push back against your 'best player we could acquire for years' line. IMO PG is coasting -- his defensive stats have all dropped for years; he's become Carmello-esque with the iso/midrange/long-2 game; he doesn't win anything and hasn't been clutch. But again, he *looks* like a perfect basketball player, and when he's into it/hot he's amazing. IMO he IS a good candidate to get a Pierce-esque boost to another level when united with more premier talent (like when KG came to BOS) and if he'd accept playing some 4 he'd fit in great here so sure, if we can get him for nothing too dear, I'm all for it.
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1532 » by reload141 » Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:16 am

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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1533 » by GoCeltics123 » Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:18 am

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Post#1534 » by lon3lytoaster » Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:20 am

Man if you don't swoop in and grab George or Butler I really don't see what the point was if trading Fultz.

I like George, don't love the the idea of Butler but you have to do something, right?
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Post#1535 » by ConstableGeneva » Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:20 am

Cavs gonna destroy their entire future for a one-year shot at toppling the Warriors. Lebron and PG both leave for LA next offseason after they lose. Cleveland left with Kyrie and not much else.
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1536 » by The Corey's » Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:22 am

Can we please just get this over with
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1537 » by Jaqua92 » Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:25 am

Seriously? Paul George going to Cleveland is just bad for the NBA. Makes the league more lopsided.
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1538 » by The Rondo Show » Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:25 am

CrowderKeg wrote:If we're not in on PG, just shows ownership wants no part of that tax bill (or there's a different target?). My question now is...

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Could also be that Ainge is just scared off by this LA stuff, particularly if Bradley isn't dealt this off-season. Because what we'd give to match in salary, Bradley and Crowder, will essentially be making what George will on a max deal by next off-season when Bradley goes up to the $20M range.
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1539 » by Jaqua92 » Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:25 am

How reliable is sam amico?
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1540 » by GoCeltics123 » Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:28 am

Jaqua92 wrote:How reliable is sam amico?

Very I think

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