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All things Draft Pick. #3

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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1621 » by ConstableGeneva » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:57 am

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CrowderKeg wrote:Crowder + Bradley alone would be enough. Jackson and Young are already waived/renounced by then. No idea which 1st(s) would suffice. Keep BKN/LAL-SAC off the table.


IF that's all it would take that would be amazing. However, Bradley is on a last year contract and is that even worth it?


Hell, you could throw Indy a couple of bones, like all 3 2nd rounders this year...maybe the Clippers or Memphis pick...George has put them in an impossible situation---Boston should have the best assets for them.

Problem is if George goes to Pritchard and says, "Send me to Cleveland. I won't resign anywhere else. I want to play with Lebron. Find a way to make it work. Either that or I walk at the end of the season." Then there's nothing Ainge can really do.
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1622 » by CelticFaninLBC » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:59 am

CrowderKeg wrote:More Larsen (beat writer for Utah) on the pursuit of Hayward:
Read on Twitter


Thanks for posting.

With Cleveland, LA and Utah in this, Boston probably has to give up Brown.
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1623 » by Tai » Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:00 am

CrowderKeg wrote:
MaxwellSmart wrote:
ViperGTS wrote:
IF that's all it would take that would be amazing. However, Bradley is on a last year contract and is that even worth it?


Hell, you could throw Indy a couple of bones, like all 3 2nd rounders this year...maybe the Clippers or Memphis pick...George has put them in an impossible situation---Boston should have the best assets for them.

Problem is if George goes to Pritchard and says, "Send me to Cleveland. I won't resign anywhere else. I want to play with Lebron. Find a way to make it work. Either that or I walk at the end of the season." Then there's nothing Ainge can really do.


If a legit report infact says George will only go to Cleveland, we can go from there. But for now, all we know is that George, I emphasize, "prefers" the Lakers. I also coulda sworn it was already reported that the Cavs aren't offering what the Pacers really want (picks?). All the same, let's not act like Cleveland's a done deal when they're just as much a long shot as anyone else.
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1624 » by ConstableGeneva » Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:01 am

CelticFaninLBC wrote:
CrowderKeg wrote:More Larsen (beat writer for Utah) on the pursuit of Hayward:
Read on Twitter


Thanks for posting.

With Cleveland, LA and Utah in this, Boston probably has to give up Brown.

Hey wait, Larsen is not saying/reporting Utah is in it. But it's not far-fetched that some team wants in on the action if Kevin Love is in play. We're all just speculating at this point.
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1625 » by CelticFaninLBC » Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:04 am

CrowderKeg wrote:
CelticFaninLBC wrote:
CrowderKeg wrote:More Larsen (beat writer for Utah) on the pursuit of Hayward:
Read on Twitter


Thanks for posting.

With Cleveland, LA and Utah in this, Boston probably has to give up Brown.

Hey wait, Larsen is not saying/reporting Utah is in it. But it's not far-fetched that some team wants in on the action if Kevin Love is in play. We're all just speculating at this point.


Utah jumping in to take Love seems pretty logical. Although Favors, Hood, etc isn't great return for Indy.
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1626 » by MaxwellSmart » Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:05 am

C's order of business:
Work out the trade details with Indy for George (Crowder/Bradley/Rozier/Memphis Pick/2nd rounders)
Make the Draft Pick this Thursday
Sign Hayward after renouncing players
Announce trade with Indy

All while keeping the BK18...C's18...LA18/Sac19 ...IT/Horford/Smart/Brown/Zizic, Pick#3 2017
Sign some Vet minimum guys...maybe Jerebko..Stash Yabu another year.

Let's do it.ha.
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1627 » by ViperGTS » Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:05 am

CelticFaninLBC wrote:
CrowderKeg wrote:More Larsen (beat writer for Utah) on the pursuit of Hayward:
Read on Twitter


Thanks for posting.

With Cleveland, LA and Utah in this, Boston probably has to give up Brown.


You aren't trading Brown for George. Not gonna happen. He's not untouchable...he's untouchable for George or Butler though.
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Post#1628 » by ConstableGeneva » Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:07 am

Take from Eric Pincus, Lakers follower and cap expert of Basketball Insiders:

"The calls to trade Randle or Russell to Indiana for Paul George should be tempered, they share an agent with Paul George, it's significant. If you have been reading my words on Bleacher, the main expendable piece the Lakers can offer for George is Clarkson, may not be enough. As I've written, it's up to Aaron Mintz, George's agent, to try and manipulate the market, if he and his client are truly set on Lakers...IF. To an extent, the Pacers can ignore George's agent and his method but at risk is losing George for nada. If a team is willing to give up value to rent George for a season, so be it."
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1629 » by CelticFaninLBC » Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:12 am

ViperGTS wrote:
CelticFaninLBC wrote:
CrowderKeg wrote:More Larsen (beat writer for Utah) on the pursuit of Hayward:
Read on Twitter


Thanks for posting.

With Cleveland, LA and Utah in this, Boston probably has to give up Brown.


You aren't trading Brown for George. Not gonna happen. He's not untouchable...he's untouchable for George or Butler though.


Doubt AB, Crowder, and Rozier is enough with Cleveland in this.
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Post#1630 » by CelticFaninLBC » Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:14 am

Would Minnesota want Love back? They could offer #7 and either LaVine or Dunn
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Post#1631 » by ViperGTS » Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:15 am

CelticFaninLBC wrote:
ViperGTS wrote:
CelticFaninLBC wrote:
Thanks for posting.

With Cleveland, LA and Utah in this, Boston probably has to give up Brown.


You aren't trading Brown for George. Not gonna happen. He's not untouchable...he's untouchable for George or Butler though.


Doubt AB, Crowder, and Rozier is enough with Cleveland in this.



Where does that leave the guard situation?
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1632 » by tlee324 » Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:16 am

Maybe some are guilty of rationalizing not taking Fultz now... but that whole "badmouthing" thing is a two-way street. People are "badmouthing" Ainge because they fell in love with Fultz, ignoring the posibility that this could end up a great move. People are badmouthing Jackson, Tatum and other players because they are in love with Fultz. I don't think they're being honest either, acting as if every other player in the draft besides Fultz is a bust, or won't help the Celtics get better because they aren't getting the guy they wanted.

This thing is just ad nauseum...ready to just get this over with.... Some of the fans are losing their sh-t and clearly need to move on from this topic for mental health purposes alone, lol.
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1633 » by ConstableGeneva » Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:23 am

CelticFaninLBC wrote:Would Minnesota want Love back? They could offer #7 and either LaVine or Dunn

He'd be a great fit alongside KAT. Not sure what they do with Dieng.
If Cavs are aggressive enough to find a third team to take Love, Indy could get some decent offers.

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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1634 » by Leprechaun18 » Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:38 am

CrowderKeg wrote:Take from Eric Pincus, Lakers follower and cap expert of Basketball Insiders:

"The calls to trade Randle or Russell to Indiana for Paul George should be tempered, they share an agent with Paul George, it's significant. If you have been reading my words on Bleacher, the main expendable piece the Lakers can offer for George is Clarkson, may not be enough. As I've written, it's up to Aaron Mintz, George's agent, to try and manipulate the market, if he and his client are truly set on Lakers...IF. To an extent, the Pacers can ignore George's agent and his method but at risk is losing George for nada. If a team is willing to give up value to rent George for a season, so be it."


You are on top of the situation! WTG!
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Post#1635 » by djFan71 » Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:43 am

CrowderKeg wrote:Cavs gonna destroy their entire future for a one-year shot at toppling the Warriors. Lebron and PG both leave for LA next offseason after they lose. Cleveland left with Kyrie and not much else.

I'd do it if I was them. They would possibly (probably?) double the championships that city has seen in the last 50 or more years*. And they have legtimately no alternative. If they do it and Lebron & PG leave, they got one last great run out of it. If they don't do it and Lebron leaves, they get one mediocre run out of it and then can ascend back to playoff fodder status a little sooner. This is their last shot for a long, long, long, long time.

* Making up that number, but it's close and probably worse if you actually fact check it.
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1636 » by CelticFaninLBC » Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:44 am

CrowderKeg wrote:
MaxwellSmart wrote:
ViperGTS wrote:
IF that's all it would take that would be amazing. However, Bradley is on a last year contract and is that even worth it?


Hell, you could throw Indy a couple of bones, like all 3 2nd rounders this year...maybe the Clippers or Memphis pick...George has put them in an impossible situation---Boston should have the best assets for them.

Problem is if George goes to Pritchard and says, "Send me to Cleveland. I won't resign anywhere else. I want to play with Lebron. Find a way to make it work. Either that or I walk at the end of the season." Then there's nothing Ainge can really do.


Just watch Ainge facilitate and grab KLove.
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1637 » by PierceFan4ever » Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:45 am

A lineup of IT/Hayward/George/Someone (Zizic, Jackson, Tatum?)/Horford can absolutely challenge the Cavs and beat them.
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Post#1638 » by peachbucket » Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:49 am

Leprechaun18 wrote:
CrowderKeg wrote:Take from Eric Pincus, Lakers follower and cap expert of Basketball Insiders:

"The calls to trade Randle or Russell to Indiana for Paul George should be tempered, they share an agent with Paul George, it's significant. If you have been reading my words on Bleacher, the main expendable piece the Lakers can offer for George is Clarkson, may not be enough. As I've written, it's up to Aaron Mintz, George's agent, to try and manipulate the market, if he and his client are truly set on Lakers...IF. To an extent, the Pacers can ignore George's agent and his method but at risk is losing George for nada. If a team is willing to give up value to rent George for a season, so be it."


You are on top of the situation! WTG!


Clarkson will not get it done...they will have to pony up #2 if they want him this year and they better come to agreement b4 draft time because I doubt Indiana would want any part of the Ball family.
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Post#1639 » by 12buckets » Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:51 am

CelticFaninLBC wrote:
CrowderKeg wrote:
MaxwellSmart wrote:
Hell, you could throw Indy a couple of bones, like all 3 2nd rounders this year...maybe the Clippers or Memphis pick...George has put them in an impossible situation---Boston should have the best assets for them.

Problem is if George goes to Pritchard and says, "Send me to Cleveland. I won't resign anywhere else. I want to play with Lebron. Find a way to make it work. Either that or I walk at the end of the season." Then there's nothing Ainge can really do.


Just watch Ainge facilitate and grab KLove.

I know it's projecting a little bit, but if LeBron and PG do leave for LA in a year, the Celtics with Love would definitely be the top team in the east.

It'd get the Pacers a little more value (getting Love locked up should cost more than a gamble on PG) with the Cavs biting the bullet in the name of one last playoff run, which should be worth it for them. Everybody wins.

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Post#1640 » by ConstableGeneva » Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:59 am

12buckets wrote:
CelticFaninLBC wrote:
CrowderKeg wrote:Problem is if George goes to Pritchard and says, "Send me to Cleveland. I won't resign anywhere else. I want to play with Lebron. Find a way to make it work. Either that or I walk at the end of the season." Then there's nothing Ainge can really do.


Just watch Ainge facilitate and grab KLove.

I know it's projecting a little bit, but if LeBron and PG do leave for LA in a year, the Celtics with Love would definitely be the top team in the east.

It'd get the Pacers a little more value (getting Love locked up should cost more than a gamble on PG) with the Cavs biting the bullet in the name of one last playoff run, which should be worth it for them. Everybody wins.

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Cost would be too much from Boston standpoint in terms of players going out because of Love's higher salary.
Bradley, Crowder, + Rozier doesn't even get it done to match salaries. Have to throw in Zizic.

Now you're just left with IT-Horford-#3-Brown-Smart. I don't think it's worth the trouble.
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