2017 Off Season
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2017 Off Season
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Trade Ajinca and Asik for cap space.
Trade Ajinca and Frazier for Spencer Dinwiddie and Joe Harris
Trade Asik to the Pacers for their non-guaranteeds: Christmas, Young, and Niang
Let Cunningham opt out.
Stretch Poindexter
Re-sign Holiday
Draft: Josh Hart
Sign: Anthony Brown
Holiday/Dinwiddie/Moore
Hart/Crawford/Harris
Hill/Brown/Toupane
Davis/Diallo/
Cousins/Christmas
Trade Ajinca and Frazier for Spencer Dinwiddie and Joe Harris
Trade Asik to the Pacers for their non-guaranteeds: Christmas, Young, and Niang
Let Cunningham opt out.
Stretch Poindexter
Re-sign Holiday
Draft: Josh Hart
Sign: Anthony Brown
Holiday/Dinwiddie/Moore
Hart/Crawford/Harris
Hill/Brown/Toupane
Davis/Diallo/
Cousins/Christmas
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Here's an article from M. McNammara on Bourbon Street Shots, presenting some great options for if Holiday signs elsewhere:
http://www.bourbonstreetshots.com/2017/04/20/five-scenarios-in-which-the-pelicans-improve-this-offseason-without-holiday/
http://www.bourbonstreetshots.com/2017/04/20/five-scenarios-in-which-the-pelicans-improve-this-offseason-without-holiday/
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MKWB wrote:Here's an article from M. McNammara on Bourbon Street Shots, presenting some great options for if Holiday signs elsewhere:
http://www.bourbonstreetshots.com/2017/04/20/five-scenarios-in-which-the-pelicans-improve-this-offseason-without-holiday/
Pels are in bind if he leaves. The timing thing is crucial.
Plan B (or A)
1) Convince Milos Teodosic or Thomas Heurtel to sign.
2) Sign and trade Holiday for Carmelo Anthony (convincing Anthony)
3) Hire Ettore Messina
4) Sign Anthony Randolph and Tyler Honeycutt
Teodosic or Heurtel/Dinwiddie/Jerrells
Moore/Crawford
Anthony/Hill/Honeycutt
Davis/Randolph
Cousins/Diallo/Christmas
Great for marketing.
High scoring.
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Plan C (A)
Heurtel/Jerrells/Dinwiddie
Moore/Jordan/Harris or the 40th Pick (Josh Hart)
Hill/Pondexter/Honeycutt
Davis/Diallo/Brown
Cousins/Randolph/Asik
Heurtel/Jerrells/Dinwiddie
Moore/Jordan/Harris or the 40th Pick (Josh Hart)
Hill/Pondexter/Honeycutt
Davis/Diallo/Brown
Cousins/Randolph/Asik
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BAF 1.0 - Wizards: Year 2
PG: Kemba Walker (32) / Rivers (16) / Felton
SG: Evan Fournier (28) / Evans (20) / Dotson
SF: Gordon Hayward (36)/ Delly (12) / Dudley
PF: Kevin Love (36) / Frye (12) / Ellenson
C: Pau Gasol (32) / Noah (16) / Felicio
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PG: Kemba Walker (32) / Rivers (16) / Felton
SG: Evan Fournier (28) / Evans (20) / Dotson
SF: Gordon Hayward (36)/ Delly (12) / Dudley
PF: Kevin Love (36) / Frye (12) / Ellenson
C: Pau Gasol (32) / Noah (16) / Felicio
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No idea what to do with Jrue.
I'd probably retain him to be on the safe side and then trade him at the deadline if he's flopping.
I'd probably retain him to be on the safe side and then trade him at the deadline if he's flopping.
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JR SMITH_5 wrote:No idea what to do with Jrue.
I'd probably retain him to be on the safe side and then trade him at the deadline if he's flopping.
Yeah, I think it's smart to definitely keep him.
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bwgood77 wrote:JR SMITH_5 wrote:No idea what to do with Jrue.
I'd probably retain him to be on the safe side and then trade him at the deadline if he's flopping.
Yeah, I think it's smart to definitely keep him.
Keeping Holiday is smart.
Not wise to go over18 million a year to keep the 3rd best player on the team.
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Global Game wrote:bwgood77 wrote:JR SMITH_5 wrote:No idea what to do with Jrue.
I'd probably retain him to be on the safe side and then trade him at the deadline if he's flopping.
Yeah, I think it's smart to definitely keep him.
Keeping Holiday is smart. ?
Not wise to go over18 million a year to keep the 3rd best player on the team.
I think it's tougher to lose an asset for nothing than to overpay, particularly if you are going to be over the cap anyway. If they pay him a little less, does that give them much cap space to sign someone? It's very hard to sign FA's that are difference makers anyway. Even a bigger contract is probably tradeable if need be. They need continuity to try and keep Cousins.
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Demps was scouting Thomas Heurtel in Istanbul last weekend.
He'll be watching Anthony Randolph later in this week.
At least he's looking in the right places.
Heurtel
Holiday
Randolph
Davis
Cousins
or
Heurtel
Thornwell
Randolph
Davis
Cousins
He'll be watching Anthony Randolph later in this week.
At least he's looking in the right places.
Heurtel
Holiday
Randolph
Davis
Cousins
or
Heurtel
Thornwell
Randolph
Davis
Cousins
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Turn Ajinca into a first round pick and draft Sindarius Thorwell
Sign Epke Udoh to replace Ajinca.
Sign Derrick Brown to replace Cunningham
Heurtel, Ragland or Jerrells, and Frazier can hold down the point for now.
Heurtel/Ragland/Frazier
Thornwell/Moore/Crawford
Randolph/Hill
Davis/Diallo
Cousins/Udoh
When your bigs can pass, other players can dominate the post at times: see Randolph and Thornwell
Beat teams down with defense and dominate the paint.
Sign Epke Udoh to replace Ajinca.
Sign Derrick Brown to replace Cunningham
Heurtel, Ragland or Jerrells, and Frazier can hold down the point for now.
Heurtel/Ragland/Frazier
Thornwell/Moore/Crawford
Randolph/Hill
Davis/Diallo
Cousins/Udoh
When your bigs can pass, other players can dominate the post at times: see Randolph and Thornwell
Beat teams down with defense and dominate the paint.
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Or
Keep Ajinca and sign Darius Miller
Heurtel/Ragland/Frazier
Miller/Moore/Crawford
Randolph/Hill/Pondexter
Davis/Diallo
Cousins/Ajinca
Darius Miller
3 pt shooting last 3 years: 51%, 47%, 40%
Keep Ajinca and sign Darius Miller
Heurtel/Ragland/Frazier
Miller/Moore/Crawford
Randolph/Hill/Pondexter
Davis/Diallo
Cousins/Ajinca
Darius Miller
3 pt shooting last 3 years: 51%, 47%, 40%
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OK, so, out with a more ambitious plan. Some might call it a stretch
1) Trade: Asik, 2017 2nd round (#40), 2018 2nd round for B. Knight (Suns)
- had a terrible season, but take chance on a guy for cheap hoping to return to his Bucks form as he regains starter spot; should be good fit "on paper" and situation is right for him to produce.
Suns get shorter and cheaper deal and two 2nd rounders as compensation for a guy they were desperate to dump this deadline.
2) Trade: Moore, Frazier, Pondexter, Diallo, 2018 1st (unprotected) for Chandler, Barton (Nuggets)
- Barton already said he won't resign in Denver, and Chandler is also mulling his way out. Nuggets get one 1 st rounder, talent that should fit very well with Jokic (Diallo) and two guys who can step right up and provide veteran stability and tutorship in young backcourt (and better performance than J. Nelson); Pelicans solve their present and future wing woes.
3) Draft: buy picks #53, 55, 56 (Boston x2, Jazz) and take F. Mason, Iwundu, C. Oliver
4) FA: CJ Miles/Holiday/McLemore on MLE; re-sign Holiday
Final roster:
Knight-Holiday-Barton-Davis-Cousins
Crawford-CJ Miles-Chandler-Hill-Ajinca
Mason-Iwundu-Oliver
1) Trade: Asik, 2017 2nd round (#40), 2018 2nd round for B. Knight (Suns)
- had a terrible season, but take chance on a guy for cheap hoping to return to his Bucks form as he regains starter spot; should be good fit "on paper" and situation is right for him to produce.
Suns get shorter and cheaper deal and two 2nd rounders as compensation for a guy they were desperate to dump this deadline.
2) Trade: Moore, Frazier, Pondexter, Diallo, 2018 1st (unprotected) for Chandler, Barton (Nuggets)
- Barton already said he won't resign in Denver, and Chandler is also mulling his way out. Nuggets get one 1 st rounder, talent that should fit very well with Jokic (Diallo) and two guys who can step right up and provide veteran stability and tutorship in young backcourt (and better performance than J. Nelson); Pelicans solve their present and future wing woes.
3) Draft: buy picks #53, 55, 56 (Boston x2, Jazz) and take F. Mason, Iwundu, C. Oliver
4) FA: CJ Miles/Holiday/McLemore on MLE; re-sign Holiday
Final roster:
Knight-Holiday-Barton-Davis-Cousins
Crawford-CJ Miles-Chandler-Hill-Ajinca
Mason-Iwundu-Oliver
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Sob deeply.
I don't even know what we can do. We've got two star players and holes everywhere else with not a lot of assets to fill them.
I don't even know what we can do. We've got two star players and holes everywhere else with not a lot of assets to fill them.
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pelifan wrote:Sob deeply.
I don't even know what we can do. We've got two star players and holes everywhere else with not a lot of assets to fill them.
Perhaps the best move to make is to be patient.
Use this year to build an identity around the talent they have.
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Set a goal of being 3rd or 4th seed in the conference.
Keep cap flexibility
Find role players that can shoot, make others better with the pass, and will compete on defense.
Ajinca is the only asset that might bring a first rounder or a high second.
Keep cap flexibility
Find role players that can shoot, make others better with the pass, and will compete on defense.
Ajinca is the only asset that might bring a first rounder or a high second.
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I don't think re-signing Holiday is the right move.
Saving that money for a dynamic two way SG/SF is the play.
Saving that money for a dynamic two way SG/SF is the play.
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In the mean time (2017-2018)
If not a 1st round draft pick, perhaps Ajinca can be traded for Will Barton (Shooting, Defense, Athleticism) and a 2nd round pick.
Sign a stretch four.
If not a 1st round draft pick, perhaps Ajinca can be traded for Will Barton (Shooting, Defense, Athleticism) and a 2nd round pick.
Sign a stretch four.
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Heurtel/Frazier/Cook
Barton/Moore/Crawford
Miller/Jones/Toupane
Davis/Melli/Pondexter
Cousins/Diallo/Asik
Barton/Moore/Crawford
Miller/Jones/Toupane
Davis/Melli/Pondexter
Cousins/Diallo/Asik
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