This offseason

[Vae Victus]

Gallo on a 1+1 TO at high money is prolly the best bet for both parties. If Gallo fails to secure a big long term deal (most likely due to his injury history) then he gets a high paid season to prove he can be healthy, and if he plays well then he'll still be well compensated for year 2, or the Nets let him explore the market if the Nets have other FA targets to go after.

Fit wise, he's the best bet (Ibaka has declined so rapidly its becoming evident he grossly lied about his age), although defensively he's not adding much. As mentioned before, Gallo can be babied along a bit, just like Brook, and that can be pitched to him as a way for him to win as well by not being utterly worn down over the long haul.

PG- Lin, Dim
SG- DLo, IW, Skil
SF- Levert, Harris, KJ
PF- Gallo, RHJ, Booker, Acy
C- Mozgov, Allen, JHam, Nicholson

1-4 is ALOT of 3pt shooting, thus lots of open lanes. Oh man, DLo has NEVER seen such open lanes before while on the Lakers he might just go Super Saiyan and make the Lakers look like utter fools instantly. Lin/Levert are gonna slice and dice on PnR, combined with good ball movement, there's gonna be an OPEN shot somewhere.

Also signing Gallo makes a bunch of players expendable. The expirings of JHam, Booker, and KJ might net something nice from a desperate team looking ahead to make a move in 2018 FA, or consolidated into 1 more useful player at a position of future need (SF assuming Lin is likely to not be resigned due to DLo's and Levert's growth).

No other player in the market fits as well as Gallo. He'll help win games and has everyone slotted into their proper roles, the only people majorly hurt is RHJ who becomes backup and Booker who basically gets turned 3rd string. RHJ at least has time to keep developing while on a cheap rookie deal, so if he develops a 3pt shot he becomes the PF of the future. Booker, well he's **** out of luck.

[Prokorov]

Just say for shats and giggles we can absorb LMA for free. The context is we struck out on Porter and San An wants to sign one, if not 2 of the big time UFA's like CP3, Millsap or Griffin and need to clear LMA to do so. Is it a prudent decision? Or does it hinder player development and possibly create strife in the locker room?

Lin
Russell
LeVert
LMA
Allen

RHJ, Mozgov, Dinwiddie, Whitehead, either Goodwin or McDaniels as the main bench mob


As long as LMA is a good soldier, would it not help development to have an actually competent roster, probably a team that could sneak in as a 6 to 8 seed, assuming Chicago falls off and Indy either trades George or the vibe destroys their team? One without any long term cap or asset implications?

How bout the exact same scenario as above, but with Pau Gasol instead of LMA?

i like it a whole lot better with gasol.....

LMA is due 2/45. that eats up a ton of flexibility
LMA is 32. not a longterm fit
LMA only has value to me at center, he doesnt seem to want to play center and id assume wouldnt budge for a bad team

Gasol is a center, costs less, and is owed just 1 year. question is why would he come here instead of optioning out and playing somewhere else?


id pass on LMA. danny green is another story

[Prokorov]

Gallo on a 1+1 TO at high money is prolly the best bet for both parties. If Gallo fails to secure a big long term deal (most likely due to his injury history) then he gets a high paid season to prove he can be healthy, and if he plays well then he'll still be well compensated for year 2, or the Nets let him explore the market if the Nets have other FA targets to go after.

Fit wise, he's the best bet (Ibaka has declined so rapidly its becoming evident he grossly lied about his age), although defensively he's not adding much. As mentioned before, Gallo can be babied along a bit, just like Brook, and that can be pitched to him as a way for him to win as well by not being utterly worn down over the long haul.

PG- Lin, Dim
SG- DLo, IW, Skil
SF- Levert, Harris, KJ
PF- Gallo, RHJ, Booker, Acy
C- Mozgov, Allen, JHam, Nicholson

1-4 is ALOT of 3pt shooting, thus lots of open lanes. Oh man, DLo has NEVER seen such open lanes before while on the Lakers he might just go Super Saiyan and make the Lakers look like utter fools instantly. Lin/Levert are gonna slice and dice on PnR, combined with good ball movement, there's gonna be an OPEN shot somewhere.

Also signing Gallo makes a bunch of players expendable. The expirings of JHam, Booker, and KJ might net something nice from a desperate team looking ahead to make a move in 2018 FA, or consolidated into 1 more useful player at a position of future need (SF assuming Lin is likely to not be resigned due to DLo's and Levert's growth).

No other player in the market fits as well as Gallo. He'll help win games and has everyone slotted into their proper roles, the only people majorly hurt is RHJ who becomes backup and Booker who basically gets turned 3rd string. RHJ at least has time to keep developing while on a cheap rookie deal, so if he develops a 3pt shot he becomes the PF of the future. Booker, well he's **** out of luck.

i dontt see how a 29 year old gallo fits unless youre trying to win more now... and if you are trying to win more now im not sure a guy who you cant bet on for moroe then 55ish games helps you do that on a young team with a 20-30 win core.

why not go after ingles or olynck instead who you can count on to play?

[DartboardT]

Nets were a mess much of the year due to injuries and shifting lineups. With some more time together with game reps and improved chemistry, I can see JLin moving up his 3PT% to at least 38% (37.2% last season), Dloading to 36-37% (35.2% last season), maybe LeVert has a shot at a steady 35%+ vs. 32.1% with much better floor spacing and, well, his guards generating open looks.

That ALONE will be a big difference in how defenses have to treat the Nets. And imagine if Lin gets closer to 39%, Dloading to 38%, LeVert to 36%+? Nets ALREADY fire a truckload of threes, and it's likely they'll start making 1-2 more per game if things start to gel.

[vincecarter4pres]

I mean I don't hate Gallo, but I almost hate him more on a 1+1 where he's trying to prove himself into another big contract and also into minutes and a featured role. Like that probably messes with development and chemistry more that just saying **** it, he's our guy and signing him for 3+ years.

But truthfully, if they really believe RHJ is the likely long term starter, or want to keep showcasing him to increase his trade value, if you can't sign Porter, or get an older stud like Millsap, just don't sign anyone. Period. Make a trade for a solid 4 with good outside shooting skills and ability to either play small ball 5, or switch onto the perimeter on defense, either on an expiring or 2 year deal and bring that guy off the bench at 2 positions, just to have different looks and ways to space the floor.

Even if you don't believe RHJ is your long term solution, you almost submarine the potential trade value of your last chip by replacing him with a guy like Gallo, again unless you actually loved Gallo for the next 4 years or so, like loved him and I don't see that.

[Netaman]

Pau Gasol would be an interesting fit if he didn't opt out. Kind of like what they tried with Scola last year, except Pau actually still has a pulse. Porter, Gallo or Ibaka would be preferred so we could get more athletic instead of less, but if we strike out on all our top targets there are worse ways to use our cap space and empty minutes next year than Pau.

[Trader_Joe]

Also I'd concede that Gallo may take space in next years' FAs.... however ask yourself, what would be the odds we land a crucial FA etc...

well its not just free agents right? its taking on a salary dump. we just added D'angelo russel by using our cap space. if another opportunity like that comes along would you want to pass up on a long term asset because we signed gallanari?

And you just dont know in free agency. i think you want to keep your options open. overnight the lakers went from rebuilt to paul george trying to force his way there. odds might be low... and im fine passing on low odds for a free agent who adds value. but to me gallo isnt worth that flexibility

We (as in the entire board vs. you) had this discussion regarding Thad 2 years back.

Signing a vet at a reasonable deal does not preclude you from flexibility in free agency. If anything we could get cap space and an asset for Gallo like we did Thad and thus it would be wise use of this year's money. Of course Gallo is a little different with his injury history, but my point is you made this same argument about Thad who was an iron-man (mention that since you brought up the remote possibility of Thad getting a serious injury and we were stuck with his deal.. as could happen with any player, any age, any price).

[Prokorov]

Also I'd concede that Gallo may take space in next years' FAs.... however ask yourself, what would be the odds we land a crucial FA etc...

well its not just free agents right? its taking on a salary dump. we just added D'angelo russel by using our cap space. if another opportunity like that comes along would you want to pass up on a long term asset because we signed gallanari?

And you just dont know in free agency. i think you want to keep your options open. overnight the lakers went from rebuilt to paul george trying to force his way there. odds might be low... and im fine passing on low odds for a free agent who adds value. but to me gallo isnt worth that flexibility

We (as in the entire board vs. you) had this discussion regarding Thad 2 years back.

Signing a vet at a reasonable deal does not preclude you from flexibility in free agency. If anything we could get cap space and an asset for Gallo like we did Thad and thus it would be wise use of this year's money. Of course Gallo is a little different with his injury history, but my point is you made this same argument about Thad who was an iron-man (mention that since you brought up the remote possibility of Thad getting a serious injury and we were stuck with his deal.. as could happen with any player, any age, any price).

i dont think the situations are remotely the same. Gallinari is older then thad was removing interest from bad teams rebuilding and less durable then thad making him unattractive to contenders (at least for anything that doesnt send back bad salary). i dont see the deal where we get cap space for gallo unless he stays healthy and plays well... and this whole discussion is centered around how i feel he is too unreliable from a health standpoint.

also... with thad, i dont think there were really alternatives. that was an ugly place with billy king sitll here.

with gallo there are alternatives and we seem a more relaistic destination for mid to low tier free agents

[Trader_Joe]

Nets were a mess much of the year due to injuries and shifting lineups. With some more time together with game reps and improved chemistry, I can see JLin moving up his 3PT% to at least 38% (37.2% last season), Dloading to 36-37% (35.2% last season), maybe LeVert has a shot at a steady 35%+ vs. 32.1% with much better floor spacing and, well, his guards generating open looks.

That ALONE will be a big difference in how defenses have to treat the Nets. And imagine if Lin gets closer to 39%, Dloading to 38%, LeVert to 36%+? Nets ALREADY fire a truckload of threes, and it's likely they'll start making 1-2 more per game if things start to gel.

I think our 3 point shooting could go down.

We were #1 in drives to the lane because our C camped out near the 3 point line and drew opposing rim protectors out of the paint. We were able to attack the rim and kick out for 3s once they collapsed. Not having a 3 point threat (or really a scoring threat) among our big men other than Hamilton could hurt us this year. Thus I like Olynyk.

[Trader_Joe]

well its not just free agents right? its taking on a salary dump. we just added D'angelo russel by using our cap space. if another opportunity like that comes along would you want to pass up on a long term asset because we signed gallanari?

And you just dont know in free agency. i think you want to keep your options open. overnight the lakers went from rebuilt to paul george trying to force his way there. odds might be low... and im fine passing on low odds for a free agent who adds value. but to me gallo isnt worth that flexibility

We (as in the entire board vs. you) had this discussion regarding Thad 2 years back.

Signing a vet at a reasonable deal does not preclude you from flexibility in free agency. If anything we could get cap space and an asset for Gallo like we did Thad and thus it would be wise use of this year's money. Of course Gallo is a little different with his injury history, but my point is you made this same argument about Thad who was an iron-man (mention that since you brought up the remote possibility of Thad getting a serious injury and we were stuck with his deal.. as could happen with any player, any age, any price).

i dont think the situations are remotely the same. Gallinari is older then thad was removing interest from bad teams rebuilding and less durable then thad making him unattractive to contenders (at least for anything that doesnt send back bad salary). i dont see the deal where we get cap space for gallo unless he stays healthy and plays well... and this whole discussion is centered around how i feel he is too unreliable from a health standpoint.

also... with thad, i dont think there were really alternatives. that was an ugly place with billy king sitll here.

with gallo there are alternatives and we seem a more relaistic destination for mid to low tier free agents

You claimed Thad was a contract that would be hard to move and was going to limit our flexibility and he was no spring chicken. He also had a game non-conducive to the new NBA but he was moved easily and got us a 1st and very good second. As long as we don't give Gallo a bad deal, he could probably do the same. Again he's a player every fan base claims they would love to have because of his 3 point shooting....despite his injuries year after year and age.

[Prokorov]

You claimed Thad was a contract that would be hard to move and was going to limit our flexibility and he was no spring chicken. He also had a game non-conducive to the new NBA but he was moved easily and got us a 1st and very good second. As long as we don't give Gallo a bad deal, he could probably do the same. Again he's a player every fan base claims they would love to have because of his 3 point shooting....despite his injuries year after year and age.

thad was 2 years younger without the injury questions. i also dont know he was "Easily" traded. we dont know what other options may have been there. thad at least teams could rely on to be in the lineup and was entering his prime.

With Gallo... if there is demand for him around the leauge we wont get him cheap. and if we dont get him cheap he isnt easily moved.

again ill ask because no one has really responded. How does gallo help us? if you want to win now someone like ingles is a much better option as he doesnt have gallos durability issues

if its a long term thing olynk makes more sense at 26 years old.

to me maybe gallo is like plan F or G if like 6 mid tier free agents say no and we can get him for lin type money.

i dont see him as a plan b or c

[Vae Victus]

i dontt see how a 29 year old gallo fits unless youre trying to win more now... and if you are trying to win more now im not sure a guy who you cant bet on for moroe then 55ish games helps you do that on a young team with a 20-30 win core.

why not go after ingles or olynck instead who you can count on to play?

29 year old Gallo still has time to score 1 last big deal even he's tied up to a 2 year say mid 40ish mil this offseason (assuming 2nd year TO is activated).

Gallo is a much better overall player than Ingles and Olynk, with higher risk factors thus making him more obtainable at a more favorable deal to the signing team. Ingles is gonna get a huge deal from someone and he's RFA as he's been heavily gushed over for months for his sudden and outstanding play with playoff rising Utah Jazz (hooo boy Doc Rivers, u one TERRIBAD **** GM). Olynk is soft (albeit dirty as ****) but without enough skills IMHO to justify signing and starting over RHJ and Booker.

Thus i'd much rather pay a few more mil up front and get a better player and roll the dice on his health. If he rolls bad, then its just one year, oh well, punt. A good roll on health means he helps the team ALOT and can be kept on for another year or be used as trade bait since he now has value as not only as an expiring but also his 2nd year TO. Flexibility is the main attraction to me.

I mean, i'll admit this is all moot, if Gallo wants a huge 4 year deal, there's no way BRK will offer that, but if given a choice this is the path id take.

Similarly with Ingles, if he can be had for 3-4 years 45-60 mil, that'd be a great deal. He can be the starting PF in 2017 or starting SF in 2018 (Lin opts out and not resigned). However at that price point Utah will easily match, and is Ingles worth 18+ mil offer sheet it'll take to pry away?

Olynk, yea no. Rather roll with RHJ and Booker at PF and with real beef in Mozzie and Allen at C. I'm just not a fan of his game, he just plays too soft for a big and is so goofy he goes up weak and doesnt get calls. Ya'll already suffered under BroLo, u want to deal with that weak crap again? Also i trust BOS FO and coach, if Olynk was a keeper theyd find a way to keep him by trading from their plethora of wings, they are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO starved for decent size, them not making a strong effort to keep Olynk to be their starting PF or 1st PF/C off the bench sings volumes to me.

[Trader_Joe]

You claimed Thad was a contract that would be hard to move and was going to limit our flexibility and he was no spring chicken. He also had a game non-conducive to the new NBA but he was moved easily and got us a 1st and very good second. As long as we don't give Gallo a bad deal, he could probably do the same. Again he's a player every fan base claims they would love to have because of his 3 point shooting....despite his injuries year after year and age.

thad was 2 years younger without the injury questions. i also dont know he was "Easily" traded. we dont know what other options may have been there. thad at least teams could rely on to be in the lineup and was entering his prime.

With Gallo... if there is demand for him around the leauge we wont get him cheap. and if we dont get him cheap he isnt easily moved.

again ill ask because no one has really responded. How does gallo help us? if you want to win now someone like ingles is a much better option as he doesnt have gallos durability issues

if its a long term thing olynk makes more sense at 26 years old.

to me maybe gallo is like plan F or G if like 6 mid tier free agents say no and we can get him for lin type money.

i dont see him as a plan b or c

A.My point about Thad.. he didn't have injury issues and yet you still used that as a reason why the signing was bad. The "What If aspect". And no, we don't know what other options were but we moved him days before the draft and got a good deal.

B. I agree.. but if there is happy medium where we get him on what appears to be a good deal, then he is an asset. Maybe he wants to be back in NY but not the Knicks.

C. He helps our spacing majorly. He could help as a mentor. He could be an asset later on. I would rather have Ingles but he will want a long term deal and might get way overpaid Jerome James style from a good POs. I would prefer KO over either, easily.

Overall, I'm not a big Gallo guy. But I get the logic.

[Trader_Joe]

i dontt see how a 29 year old gallo fits unless youre trying to win more now... and if you are trying to win more now im not sure a guy who you cant bet on for moroe then 55ish games helps you do that on a young team with a 20-30 win core.

why not go after ingles or olynck instead who you can count on to play?

29 year old Gallo still has time to score 1 last big deal even he's tied up to a 2 year say mid 40ish mil this offseason (assuming 2nd year TO is activated).

Gallo is a much better overall player than Ingles and Olynk, with higher risk factors thus making him more obtainable at a more favorable deal to the signing team. Ingles is gonna get a huge deal from someone and he's RFA as he's been heavily gushed over for months for his sudden and outstanding play with playoff rising Utah Jazz (hooo boy Doc Rivers, u one TERRIBAD **** GM). Olynk is soft (albeit dirty as ****) but without enough skills IMHO to justify signing and starting over RHJ and Booker.

Thus i'd much rather pay a few more mil up front and get a better player and roll the dice on his health. If he rolls bad, then its just one year, oh well, punt. A good roll on health means he helps the team ALOT and can be kept on for another year or be used as trade bait since he now has value as not only as an expiring but also his 2nd year TO. Flexibility is the main attraction to me.

I mean, i'll admit this is all moot, if Gallo wants a huge 4 year deal, there's no way BRK will offer that, but if given a choice this is the path id take.

Similarly with Ingles, if he can be had for 3-4 years 45-60 mil, that'd be a great deal. He can be the starting PF in 2017 or starting SF in 2018 (Lin opts out and not resigned). However at that price point Utah will easily match, and is Ingles worth 18+ mil offer sheet it'll take to pry away?

Olynk, yea no. Rather roll with RHJ and Booker at PF and with real beef in Mozzie and Allen at C. I'm just not a fan of his game, he just plays too soft for a big and is so goofy he goes up weak and doesnt get calls. Ya'll already suffered under BroLo, u want to deal with that weak crap again? Also i trust BOS FO and coach, if Olynk was a keeper theyd find a way to keep him by trading from their plethora of wings, they are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO starved for decent size, them not making a strong effort to keep Olynk to be their starting PF or 1st PF/C off the bench sings volumes to me.

I like KO's "toughness" even if a bit cheap. He's dirty.. fine by me. Must importantly he'd be our best offensive big man by far. We lost our best floor spacer and the reason we led the league in drives to the rim. Our spacing took a major hit. It's imperative these days to get the opposing big men out of the paint and space the floor.

[Vae Victus]

Nets were a mess much of the year due to injuries and shifting lineups. With some more time together with game reps and improved chemistry, I can see JLin moving up his 3PT% to at least 38% (37.2% last season), Dloading to 36-37% (35.2% last season), maybe LeVert has a shot at a steady 35%+ vs. 32.1% with much better floor spacing and, well, his guards generating open looks.

That ALONE will be a big difference in how defenses have to treat the Nets. And imagine if Lin gets closer to 39%, Dloading to 38%, LeVert to 36%+? Nets ALREADY fire a truckload of threes, and it's likely they'll start making 1-2 more per game if things start to gel.

I think our 3 point shooting could go down.

We were #1 in drives to the lane because our C camped out near the 3 point line and drew opposing rim protectors out of the paint. We were able to attack the rim and kick out for 3s once they collapsed. Not having a 3 point threat (or really a scoring threat) among our big men other than Hamilton could hurt us this year. Thus I like Olynyk.

Mozgov when he was healthy back in DEN/CLE was a high tier PnR big man. He was a dunking machine slamma jammaing anything lobbed his way. His injury **** him up pretty good, and if he got most of his old mobility back, him being a hard rim runner will also leave alot of open 3 pt shots. Now if Mozgov is coming up a lame cripple, well damn, i guess the trade wasnt as horribly unbalanced as i originally thought, but still the move was worth it for the Nets.

Defenses naturally collapse cuz no one wants to give up easy dunks/layups. Pick your poison, when Lin/DLo initiates with PnR with Mozgov, and he screams to the rim HARD, help defenders HAVE to step into the paint a bit to respect it, especially if u have guards who find a way to make that inside pass (Lin especially, DLo less so mostly due to his lesser explosion to the rack), so even if you shut down the PnR well, the ball gets kicked out, now its either open 3pt shot or smart ball movement leaves a scramble situation where now you have DLo/Levert/Lin allowed to slice and dice on a disorganized defense. It's win/win as long as the team is patient and moves the ball to advantageous position.

[vincecarter4pres]

You claimed Thad was a contract that would be hard to move and was going to limit our flexibility and he was no spring chicken. He also had a game non-conducive to the new NBA but he was moved easily and got us a 1st and very good second. As long as we don't give Gallo a bad deal, he could probably do the same. Again he's a player every fan base claims they would love to have because of his 3 point shooting....despite his injuries year after year and age.

thad was 2 years younger without the injury questions. i also dont know he was "Easily" traded. we dont know what other options may have been there. thad at least teams could rely on to be in the lineup and was entering his prime.

With Gallo... if there is demand for him around the leauge we wont get him cheap. and if we dont get him cheap he isnt easily moved.

This too. If there's demand for him, he'll be expensive. Thad signed that contract under the old cap and at the time it was considered about average to a hair of an overpay for a player of his ilk. If he signed that deal later, we're talking like $15 to $18 mill a season and all of a sudden he's hard to move and doesn't have the value of cap space and a 1st round pick.

A lot of Thad's value was because under the expanded cap his contract all of a sudden became great value, because even if you eventually moved him to the bench as a super sub, he's still way underpaid in comparison to the rest of the league and so he has retrade value and is easily rostered even if you trade for or draft an improvement at his position down the road.

[Prokorov]

i dontt see how a 29 year old gallo fits unless youre trying to win more now... and if you are trying to win more now im not sure a guy who you cant bet on for moroe then 55ish games helps you do that on a young team with a 20-30 win core.

why not go after ingles or olynck instead who you can count on to play?

29 year old Gallo still has time to score 1 last big deal even he's tied up to a 2 year say mid 40ish mil this offseason (assuming 2nd year TO is activated).

Gallo is a much better overall player than Ingles and Olynk, with higher risk factors thus making him more obtainable at a more favorable deal to the signing team. Ingles is gonna get a huge deal from someone and he's RFA as he's been heavily gushed over for months for his sudden and outstanding play with playoff rising Utah Jazz (hooo boy Doc Rivers, u one TERRIBAD **** GM). Olynk is soft (albeit dirty as ****) but without enough skills IMHO to justify signing and starting over RHJ and Booker.

Thus i'd much rather pay a few more mil up front and get a better player and roll the dice on his health. If he rolls bad, then its just one year, oh well, punt. A good roll on health means he helps the team ALOT and can be kept on for another year or be used as trade bait since he now has value as not only as an expiring but also his 2nd year TO. Flexibility is the main attraction to me.

I mean, i'll admit this is all moot, if Gallo wants a huge 4 year deal, there's no way BRK will offer that, but if given a choice this is the path id take.

Similarly with Ingles, if he can be had for 3-4 years 45-60 mil, that'd be a great deal. He can be the starting PF in 2017 or starting SF in 2018 (Lin opts out and not resigned). However at that price point Utah will easily match, and is Ingles worth 18+ mil offer sheet it'll take to pry away?

Olynk, yea no. Rather roll with RHJ and Booker at PF and with real beef in Mozzie and Allen at C. I'm just not a fan of his game, he just plays too soft for a big and is so goofy he goes up weak and doesnt get calls. Ya'll already suffered under BroLo, u want to deal with that weak crap again? Also i trust BOS FO and coach, if Olynk was a keeper theyd find a way to keep him by trading from their plethora of wings, they are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO starved for decent size, them not making a strong effort to keep Olynk to be their starting PF or 1st PF/C off the bench sings volumes to me.

its all moot if we can get gallo on a one year deal or even 2-3 years at 11-13M per.

my guess is it takes at least 3 years at 16-18.

[Prokorov]

A.My point about Thad.. he didn't have injury issues and yet you still used that as a reason why the signing was bad. The "What If aspect". And no, we don't know what other options were but we moved him days before the draft and got a good deal.

its 2 completely different arguments. with thad the injury thing was "if he gets injured we cant trade him" with Gallo its "he is always injured so he doesnt provide on court value because he is always hurt"

B. I agree.. but if there is happy medium where we get him on what appears to be a good deal, then he is an asset. Maybe he wants to be back in NY but not the Knicks.

sure its all moot if you get him short and cheap

C. He helps our spacing majorly. He could help as a mentor. He could be an asset later on. I would rather have Ingles but he will want a long term deal and might get way overpaid Jerome James style from a good POs. I would prefer KO over either, easily.

Overall, I'm not a big Gallo guy. But I get the logic.

gallo only provides spacing if he is on the floor. and if he is just a mentor id rather a cheaper short term scola type.

[Prokorov]

i dontt see how a 29 year old gallo fits unless youre trying to win more now... and if you are trying to win more now im not sure a guy who you cant bet on for moroe then 55ish games helps you do that on a young team with a 20-30 win core.

why not go after ingles or olynck instead who you can count on to play?

29 year old Gallo still has time to score 1 last big deal even he's tied up to a 2 year say mid 40ish mil this offseason (assuming 2nd year TO is activated).

Gallo is a much better overall player than Ingles and Olynk, with higher risk factors thus making him more obtainable at a more favorable deal to the signing team. Ingles is gonna get a huge deal from someone and he's RFA as he's been heavily gushed over for months for his sudden and outstanding play with playoff rising Utah Jazz (hooo boy Doc Rivers, u one TERRIBAD **** GM). Olynk is soft (albeit dirty as ****) but without enough skills IMHO to justify signing and starting over RHJ and Booker.

Thus i'd much rather pay a few more mil up front and get a better player and roll the dice on his health. If he rolls bad, then its just one year, oh well, punt. A good roll on health means he helps the team ALOT and can be kept on for another year or be used as trade bait since he now has value as not only as an expiring but also his 2nd year TO. Flexibility is the main attraction to me.

I mean, i'll admit this is all moot, if Gallo wants a huge 4 year deal, there's no way BRK will offer that, but if given a choice this is the path id take.

Similarly with Ingles, if he can be had for 3-4 years 45-60 mil, that'd be a great deal. He can be the starting PF in 2017 or starting SF in 2018 (Lin opts out and not resigned). However at that price point Utah will easily match, and is Ingles worth 18+ mil offer sheet it'll take to pry away?

Olynk, yea no. Rather roll with RHJ and Booker at PF and with real beef in Mozzie and Allen at C. I'm just not a fan of his game, he just plays too soft for a big and is so goofy he goes up weak and doesnt get calls. Ya'll already suffered under BroLo, u want to deal with that weak crap again? Also i trust BOS FO and coach, if Olynk was a keeper theyd find a way to keep him by trading from their plethora of wings, they are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO starved for decent size, them not making a strong effort to keep Olynk to be their starting PF or 1st PF/C off the bench sings volumes to me.

I like KO's "toughness" even if a bit cheap. He's dirty.. fine by me. Must importantly he'd be our best offensive big man by far. We lost our best floor spacer and the reason we led the league in drives to the rim. Our spacing took a major hit. It's imperative these days to get the opposing big men out of the paint and space the floor.

i dont view our spacing as even a minor concern. russell can shoot and more importantly shoot off screens. when you do that you cant sag off bigmen who dont shoot because you need to be up near the screen or russell can get a free look and has proven he can hit shots off the screen. Let me give an extreme example...

lets say you have the worst shooting bigman of all time and you have steph curry. obviously you dont need to respect the big mans shoot at all. but if he sets a high screen for curry, or an off ball screen for curry guess what... that bigman just created space because if you dont follow him beyind the 3 point line curry is going to come clean off that screen for an open look.

i posted an in depth post with videos of this earlier in the year in a discussion about spacing regarding reddick and korver. and how they provide so much more spacing them someone like crabbe or porter who are more station catch and shoot. when you can shoot threes at a high percentage from off ball screens or pick and rolls you draw 2 defenders, not 1.

draymond green is a big who can shoot... which is great for spacing. but they really have elite spacng because they have 2 guys who are deadly shooting threes off screens. if you run off ball screens on each side on each wing you just cleared it out completely for the ball handler. also why draymond gets so many assists.... high screen and rolls they trap curry. makes it a 4 on 3 for dray

you have 3 shooters in the lineup with lin/russell/levert and if you want more sub in acy.

i think mozgov can also be a guy who like brook they turn into a three epoint shooter. he was as good as brook on long twos the last 3-4 seasons. high 40's. im not saying he hits 100 threes at 35 percent but enough on decent percentage where you cant toally ignore him.

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Nets were a mess much of the year due to injuries and shifting lineups. With some more time together with game reps and improved chemistry, I can see JLin moving up his 3PT% to at least 38% (37.2% last season), Dloading to 36-37% (35.2% last season), maybe LeVert has a shot at a steady 35%+ vs. 32.1% with much better floor spacing and, well, his guards generating open looks.

That ALONE will be a big difference in how defenses have to treat the Nets. And imagine if Lin gets closer to 39%, Dloading to 38%, LeVert to 36%+? Nets ALREADY fire a truckload of threes, and it's likely they'll start making 1-2 more per game if things start to gel.

I think our 3 point shooting could go down.

We were #1 in drives to the lane because our C camped out near the 3 point line and drew opposing rim protectors out of the paint. We were able to attack the rim and kick out for 3s once they collapsed. Not having a 3 point threat (or really a scoring threat) among our big men other than Hamilton could hurt us this year. Thus I like Olynyk.

Mozgov when he was healthy back in DEN/CLE was a high tier PnR big man. He was a dunking machine slamma jammaing anything lobbed his way. His injury **** him up pretty good, and if he got most of his old mobility back, him being a hard rim runner will also leave alot of open 3 pt shots. Now if Mozgov is coming up a lame cripple, well damn, i guess the trade wasnt as horribly unbalanced as i originally thought, but still the move was worth it for the Nets.

Defenses naturally collapse cuz no one wants to give up easy dunks/layups. Pick your poison, when Lin/DLo initiates with PnR with Mozgov, and he screams to the rim HARD, help defenders HAVE to step into the paint a bit to respect it, especially if u have guards who find a way to make that inside pass (Lin especially, DLo less so mostly due to his lesser explosion to the rack), so even if you shut down the PnR well, the ball gets kicked out, now its either open 3pt shot or smart ball movement leaves a scramble situation where now you have DLo/Levert/Lin allowed to slice and dice on a disorganized defense. It's win/win as long as the team is patient and moves the ball to advantageous position.

yup this was also in my post about spacing... and we saw it all the time with lopez pnr defense causing wings to help leaving open threes.

the way around it is if defense switch everything,... which you see alot of. when that happens your smalls need to be able to take bigs off the dribble and your bigs need to draw fouls.

llin can get by bigmen.