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[MrDollarBills]

GT will never be overwritten. It still makes money for Toei, they would never kill it without at least giving them an out. You may see a dimensional hop or something, where they try to explain that GT Is still around just in another dimension that is different than the 12 universe and five timeline system they have in place now, but they won't entirely overwrite it.

GT was a show made by producers back in 1995 who wanted to keep the money train rolling at a time when DragonBall's ratings in Japan were on the decline, that's why it got tanked pretty quickly. For comparison, I'm not sure how familiar anyone is with the Naruto series, but they are doing the same thing right now with "Boruto", a show about the original main character's son that isn't being written by the author.

Super is different since the author is directly involved with the show. Nothing from GT counts, it's like an alternate universe.

GT had some awesome music though (which most anime did back in those days)

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[Jersey Generals]

GT was a show made by producers back in 1995 who wanted to keep the money train rolling at a time when DragonBall's ratings in Japan were on the decline, that's why it got tanked pretty quickly. For comparison, I'm not sure how familiar anyone is with the Naruto series, but they are doing the same thing right now with "Boruto", a show about the original main character's son that isn't being written by the author.

Super is different since the author is directly involved with the show. Nothing from GT counts, it's like an alternate universe.

No, like, I'm flat out telling you, they won't do it without giving them a way to say it still exists and nothing has been overwritten within a story context. There's a reason why Super is set between Buu and EoZ and they are going to tremendous lengths to not contradict GT.

Dragon Ball GT is unnecessarily hated in the United States for some asinine reasons, I get that. However, it is not hated and is well loved internationally. It still makes a ton of money for Toei. They will not do anything that will outright overwrite it. Boruto being a piece of trash has nothing to do with this.

DBGT made their money in spades due to merchandise and dvd sales, while the ratings were poor. Kai, meanwhile, had great ratings and terrible, terrible merchandise sales.


Edit: Not arguing with you, so no need to go into deep analysis in response. However, there is plenty of wiggle room that they can do. Immediately after taking Uub, they have about ten years where, as far as I know, no story has touched before the start of GT. So long as they match up the EoZ tournament, they have an extra ten years of leeway before they have to start overwriting GT so it is possible to continue the story with a new villain for Uub and Goku to fight.

[vincecarter4pres]

I'm a casual fan of anime, never got into Dragonball though. Nothing against it, just never really watched it. *ducks for cover*

[Jersey Generals]

I'm a casual fan of anime, never got into Dragonball though. Nothing against it, just never really watched it. *ducks for cover*

No reason to duck, there are a ton of better anime/manga out there. I like Dragon Ball because from the Beginning of DB through the Frieza Saga, it is awesome in the manga. I've read that **** about a hundred times, but yeah, there are better things out there.

Like Zoids.

[MrDollarBills]

GT was a show made by producers back in 1995 who wanted to keep the money train rolling at a time when DragonBall's ratings in Japan were on the decline, that's why it got tanked pretty quickly. For comparison, I'm not sure how familiar anyone is with the Naruto series, but they are doing the same thing right now with "Boruto", a show about the original main character's son that isn't being written by the author.

Super is different since the author is directly involved with the show. Nothing from GT counts, it's like an alternate universe.

No, like, I'm flat out telling you, they won't do it without giving them a way to say it still exists and nothing has been overwritten within a story context. There's a reason why Super is set between Buu and EoZ and they are going to tremendous lengths to not contradict GT.

Dragon Ball GT is unnecessarily hated in the United States for some asinine reasons, I get that. However, it is not hated and is well loved internationally. It still makes a ton of money for Toei. They will not do anything that will outright overwrite it. Boruto being a piece of trash has nothing to do with this.

DBGT made their money in spades due to merchandise and dvd sales, while the ratings were poor. Kai, meanwhile, had great ratings and terrible, terrible merchandise sales.


Edit: Not arguing with you, so no need to go into deep analysis in response. However, there is plenty of wiggle room that they can do. Immediately after taking Uub, they have about ten years where, as far as I know, no story has touched before the start of GT. So long as they match up the EoZ tournament, they have an extra ten years of leeway before they have to start overwriting GT so it is possible to continue the story with a new villain for Uub and Goku to fight.

haha my bad, i updated my post.

I think GT has already been contradicted with the existence of Super Saiyan Blue and the introduction of the multiverse, but again it remains to be seen what they want to do. so i don't think you're wrong at all. depends on what the producers/toriyama want to do. i actually believe they are going to retcon (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Retcon) the ending of the dragonball manga/comic to give them a path towards a few years worth of content.

I don't think Boruto is necessarily ****. I just understand the politics behind it. i don't have time to watch it though.

anime was in an interesting transition at the time of GT and the mid to late 90s. battle manga adaption anime was giving way into content that had more depth, which brought forth Neon Genesis Evangelion, Gundam Wing, Cowboy Bebop, Serial Experiments Lain, Outlaw Star, Trigun, and then eventually Hunter X Hunter and finally Naruto.

[treiz]

^Yeah it'd be difficult to explain the existence of GT because of SSG/SSB and how SSJ4 was just skipped completely. But knowing the DB writers (who rarely cares about making sense), they've already done arcs which are time travel-related and arcs that are involve multiple universes, so I wouldn't be surprised if down the line they came up with something like an "alternate universe" or some-ish to bring GT into Super and somehow have SSB Goku/Kaio-ken x10 Goku have an even fight with SSJ4 Goku.

I'm a casual fan of anime, never got into Dragonball though. Nothing against it, just never really watched it. *ducks for cover*

For me, DB was just that show I loved growing up so it's just really nostalgic for me seeing all these characters again.

[MrDollarBills]

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[CalamityX12]

with the introduction of SSJ God Red/Blue/Pink/next... that itself already surpasses SSJ4 imo.

But thats only speaking for powers perspective, all the characters still seem lined up. I did not gather that GT existed after they introduced the new super series. It's like a remake of sorts.

[Jersey Generals]

The reason why the god powers are not completely the death-knell of GT is because they can still erase it with one simple wish: "I wish we had never met Beerus." With that, any knowledge of Super Saiyan God, Super Saiyan Blue, and the Super Dragon Balls go away.

Whereas, it's actually the stupid ass Pilaf Gang that is the hardest to re-write and is the biggest thorn in GT. The god powers are still capable of being forgotten about it a story way (Goku and the rest realize how dangerous playing with gods are, so they use the Super Dragon Balls to erase any history of Beerus/Zen-Oh), but the Pilaf Gang is the hardest to rectify. They're old at the start of GT, not young.

Now, that's not me saying I think they will connect GT, I absolutely do not, but I think they are not going to flat out say "GT doesn't exist" is all. It still makes too much money for them to do that. I could be wrong.

[MrDollarBills]

The reason why the god powers are not completely the death-knell of GT is because they can still erase it with one simple wish: "I wish we had never met Beerus." With that, any knowledge of Super Saiyan God, Super Saiyan Blue, and the Super Dragon Balls go away.

Whereas, it's actually the stupid ass Pilaf Gang that is the hardest to re-write and is the biggest thorn in GT. The god powers are still capable of being forgotten about it a story way (Goku and the rest realize how dangerous playing with gods are, so they use the Super Dragon Balls to erase any history of Beerus/Zen-Oh), but the Pilaf Gang is the hardest to rectify. They're old at the start of GT, not young.

Now, that's not me saying I think they will connect GT, I absolutely do not, but I think they are not going to flat out say "GT doesn't exist" is all. It still makes too much money for them to do that. I could be wrong.

i don't think GT will get that kind of love since this is being guided by Toriyama and the show's producers who may have their own plans.

they may, however, show some love to certain aspects of the franchise's lore. clear example is Kale, who is Brolly's female incarnation. But that isn't GT stuff though.

i think if there are any GT aspects, they will be shown after the universe tournament. i doubt it though. the multiverse aspect of dragonball paves the way for a ton of storylines.

also, the one thing that made me raise an eyebrow is when Beerus asked Goku "do you want to be a god of destruction too?" and Goku's behavior. The dude is a sociopath. i think that remark was deliberate. but we'll see...speculating on dragonball is a bit much.

[treiz]

^That's interesting way to put it and I agree with it. Think they're more likely to give shoutouts to GT than actually bringing GT into it

[Rich Rane]

Guys, guys...GT never happened. It's best for everyone, especially me.

[Jersey Generals]

Guys, guys...GT never happened. It's best for everyone, especially me.

GT happened friend, and I think maybe it is time you...step into the Grand Tour!

[MrDollarBills]

GT was pretty bad, i can't sugar coat it.

[Jersey Generals]

Agree to disagree, but I believe in ten years, Super will be seen as just okay along with GT. Super has the many of the same problems that GT has, but GT had great animation all throughout. Watch the subbed version of GT and you'll see why this exceptional hatred of it is kind of misplaced.

The bad of GT:

1) The Black star Dragon Balls force a retcon.
2) The Universal Tour Arc went on a tad too long.
3) Everyone in the universe is as strong as Buu now.
4) They should have used the regular Dragon Balls to save the Earth during the Baby Arc.
5) Super 17 Saga as a whole. Goku went stupid for the fight.
6) The designs of the Shadow Dragons were bad and their characterization was terrible. Syn, Eis, and Nuova were the only good ones.
7) The shows palette isn't for everyone. The dull colors was something that off-put people after Dragon Ball Z's brighter palette.
8) It dated itself due to the 90s vibe, as seen in the gif I posted above with Master Roshi, which ruins the re-watch-ability.
9) It got hurt due to Dragon Ball fatigue and the advent of the most powerful anime of all time in Pokemon.
10) They really dropped the ball with Uub, Buu, and everyone not named Goku, but especially Uub.
11) Pan was annoying as **** in the dub. She was awful in the sub, too, but just worse in the dub.
12) The design of Trunks is laughable.


And just so we're clear, I'm not a huge fan of GT. Most of what I say in regards to it is tongue in cheek. I've watched it entirely three times: one when it was released in the US, the second time via the sub, and the third time a few years later. However, I know someone who literally was arguing against watching it when he himself had never even seen it. His reason? "I heard it was bad!"

Edit: But I do realize I'm coming off argumentative over actually liking GT and that is not my intention. Literally, tongue in cheek except for this post.

[MrDollarBills]

Super's Goku Black Saga pretty much kills anything that GT had to offer.

But yeah, GT was pretty much when late 80s-90s anime franchises had jumped the shark. Which is a good thing, since it pushed creative greatness.

[Rich Rane]

SO CLOSE TO GOKU BEING ELIMINATED! I knew it wasn't going to happen, but damn it I want him gone so badly.

[Ror1997]

Went to verizon today after work to get my phone replaced. It stopped working over the weekend due to a software issue and I lost everything saved to the phone itself. Only thing I had backed up were contacts.

The verizon rep didn't even try and help me. He gave me a phone number to call and didn't seem to care that I didn't have a phone to even call them with. "You probably have insurance. It'll be fine"

**** clown. Went to Sprint, and got the s8+, and got a great deal. Paying half of what I was on Verizon. Should've done this a year ago.

[CalamityX12]

I like this battle royal....

I did notice beforehand but more so to input on it, U7 has the most earthlings.... cool lol.

[Claud]

I've seen every DB episode in japanese except GT.... never got around to watching GT unfortunately.

I think Gohan vs Jiren will be the final battle of this storyline IMO. Goku will fight but lose to Jiren and then Gohan will step in to win it somehow just like he did vs Cell