Miami HEAT Offseason/Trades/FA Thread: Sardine Central 3.0

[King_Supreme]

Gordon Hayward, 29th in the league in RPM and RPM WINS, wants to make $1M for every player that is better than him. Why did we go after this porpoise again?

Zaza a top 30 player CONFIRMED

[puppa bear]

Can we just keep the money from Bosh and call it a season? Fck em FAs who dont want us!
Lets ride the m***** f****** tank!

Why do you want James Johnson and Waiters back? For another treadmill season? It's pointless.

I agree with you, the only issue I see is that without them even in this weakened eastern conference we are looking at the realistic possibly of being in the lottery again. Remember our draft pick (top 8 protected) goes to the Suns. A three time back to back lottery team can’t sell culture and it sure can’t sell family either so...

To all pro-tankers: we missed our tank window!

Last season was the perfect time to sell high on Dragic & ride the tank to 2 lotto picks this year & another next year.

Our pick is protected this year, but even if we don't resign Dion & JJ we won't quite be bad enough to get there without injuries. If we had a rookie PG running the show (Fultz/Ball/Smith/Fox) then we could struggle through this year with Whiteside learning to lead a young group through effort and execution. Get another high lotto pick, and then have a crap-tonne of capspace and youth to lure some FAs.

Tanking this year = recipe for disaster.

[DayofMourning]

Shoulda invested in draft picks Riley! Playing the FA game is going to make you age more rapidly than you already are.

These days, anybody who is capable of making a rotation is getting 20 million a year.

We wouldn't have to be bidding against the market for Jordan Bell or Sin Thorn.

[puppa bear]

I'm down for a trade for LMA.
Whiteside/Aldridge/J. Johnson/Waiters/Dragic is a legit starting 5.

We may have to trade Winslow and my boy J-Rich but I'd take that and run

Im happy to lose J-Rich in a LMA trade, but not Winslow. For me it needs to be something along the cap-clearing lines of McBob/Ellington/J-Rich for LMA. Winslow should be off-limits here.

every other teams locks up their guys first, we make them wait and hope they don't feel disrespected when we finally get around to offering them less value. I dont want to lose JJ and Mion but if we do is on us. Offer them good value and be prepared to lose them. Dont overextend like we did for Bosh. Just because their agents are trying for a bidding war doesn't mean the player is on board.

I want Beas back.
Melo is still out there.
Tyreke is a possibility
Roberson.

If anything we need to at least get JJ back.

I wouldn't mind a 17th shot with Beas, but at some point we need to move on.
No thanks to Melo, or any RFAs.

[fsuizzy]

Gordon Hayward, 29th in the league in RPM and RPM WINS, wants to make $1M for every player that is better than him. Why did we go after this porpoise again?

WoW looking at the list of players we can't even get 1.

[fsuizzy]

I'm down for a trade for LMA.
Whiteside/Aldridge/J. Johnson/Waiters/Dragic is a legit starting 5.

We may have to trade Winslow and my boy J-Rich but I'd take that and run

Im happy to lose J-Rich in a LMA trade, but not Winslow. For me it needs to be something along the cap-clearing lines of McBob/Ellington/J-Rich for LMA. Winslow should be off-limits here.

every other teams locks up their guys first, we make them wait and hope they don't feel disrespected when we finally get around to offering them less value. I dont want to lose JJ and Mion but if we do is on us. Offer them good value and be prepared to lose them. Dont overextend like we did for Bosh. Just because their agents are trying for a bidding war doesn't mean the player is on board.

I want Beas back.
Melo is still out there.
Tyreke is a possibility
Roberson.

If anything we need to at least get JJ back.

I wouldn't mind a 17th shot with Beas, but at some point we need to move on.
No thanks to Melo, or any RFAs.

People need to realize what we are doing and what we are doing is tanking. Goodbye to TJ and his horrible contract. Dragic may be out the door. Anybody and everybody not named Whiteside could be gone if they add a significant amount of Capital to the Cap next season 18-19.

Riley is set in stone after going after the Banana Boat crew or others next season 18-19 and getting ready to retire. He isn't building young he is building to win that year.

[HEATVols865]

I'm down for a trade for LMA.
Whiteside/Aldridge/J. Johnson/Waiters/Dragic is a legit starting 5.

We may have to trade Winslow and my boy J-Rich but I'd take that and run

Im happy to lose J-Rich in a LMA trade, but not Winslow. For me it needs to be something along the cap-clearing lines of McBob/Ellington/J-Rich for LMA. Winslow should be off-limits here.

every other teams locks up their guys first, we make them wait and hope they don't feel disrespected when we finally get around to offering them less value. I dont want to lose JJ and Mion but if we do is on us. Offer them good value and be prepared to lose them. Dont overextend like we did for Bosh. Just because their agents are trying for a bidding war doesn't mean the player is on board.

I want Beas back.
Melo is still out there.
Tyreke is a possibility
Roberson.

If anything we need to at least get JJ back.

I wouldn't mind a 17th shot with Beas, but at some point we need to move on.
No thanks to Melo, or any RFAs.

People need to realize what we are doing and what we are doing is tanking. Goodbye to TJ and his horrible contract. Dragic may be out the door. Anybody and everybody not named Whiteside could be gone if they add a significant amount of Capital to the Cap next season.

Riley is set in stone after going after the Banana Boat crew or others next season and getting ready to retire. He isn't building young he is building to win that year.

Riley won't bring back LeBron and Wade. Forget about it.

[puppa bear]

Gordon Hayward, 29th in the league in RPM and RPM WINS, wants to make $1M for every player that is better than him. Why did we go after this porpoise again?

WoW looking at the list of players we can't even get 1.

By the time you take out the teams with multiple players on that list: Warriors 5, Utah and Clippers 3, Cavs, Celtics, Pelicans and Nuggets 2, you are left with a whopping 12 out of 31 players to spread across 23 teams.

The sadder part is that two of those teams didn't even make the PO, so either this isn't the most useful stat, or those teams were not built right.

[fsuizzy]

Im happy to lose J-Rich in a LMA trade, but not Winslow. For me it needs to be something along the cap-clearing lines of McBob/Ellington/J-Rich for LMA. Winslow should be off-limits here.


I wouldn't mind a 17th shot with Beas, but at some point we need to move on.
No thanks to Melo, or any RFAs.

People need to realize what we are doing and what we are doing is tanking. Goodbye to TJ and his horrible contract. Dragic may be out the door. Anybody and everybody not named Whiteside could be gone if they add a significant amount of Capital to the Cap next season.

Riley is set in stone after going after the Banana Boat crew or others next season and getting ready to retire. He isn't building young he is building to win that year.

Riley won't bring back LeBron and Wade. Forget about it.

Lebron is the biggest name out there next year. The one that could last the longest and the one that seems like he would leave his team. I bet you anything Riley is going after him. Wade is going on his last contract and wants to retire here so there will be discussions no matter what. It's easier for you to say, we aren't going after Melo or CP3.

[Mos_Heat]

Shoulda invested in draft picks Riley! Playing the FA game is going to make you age more rapidly than you already are.

These days, anybody who is capable of making a rotation is getting 20 million a year.

We wouldn't have to be bidding against the market for Jordan Bell or Sin Thorn.

stop, Dom.



pls

[HIF]

It's just so sad, bro. I've always been down with the "In Riley We Trust" mantra, but something isn't right. We're getting avoided like the plague by the whales. Could James, Wade, and Bosh be telling people to not sign here?

there was one whale available and he went to play for his college coach...

But he wasn't really a whale - unless you mean a baluga.

[Flash4thewin]

I'm down for a trade for LMA.
Whiteside/Aldridge/J. Johnson/Waiters/Dragic is a legit starting 5.

We may have to trade Winslow and my boy J-Rich but I'd take that and run

Im happy to lose J-Rich in a LMA trade, but not Winslow. For me it needs to be something along the cap-clearing lines of McBob/Ellington/J-Rich for LMA. Winslow should be off-limits here.

every other teams locks up their guys first, we make them wait and hope they don't feel disrespected when we finally get around to offering them less value. I dont want to lose JJ and Mion but if we do is on us. Offer them good value and be prepared to lose them. Dont overextend like we did for Bosh. Just because their agents are trying for a bidding war doesn't mean the player is on board.

I want Beas back.
Melo is still out there.
Tyreke is a possibility
Roberson.

If anything we need to at least get JJ back.

I wouldn't mind a 17th shot with Beas, but at some point we need to move on.
No thanks to Melo, or any RFAs.

People need to realize what we are doing and what we are doing is tanking. Goodbye to TJ and his horrible contract. Dragic may be out the door. Anybody and everybody not named Whiteside could be gone if they add a significant amount of Capital to the Cap next season 18-19.

Riley is set in stone after going after the Banana Boat crew or others next season 18-19 and getting ready to retire. He isn't building young he is building to win that year.

The problem is many teams will tank harder than us. Us tanking and giving a lottery pick to the Suns as part of the picks owed in the Dragic trade is devastating.

[batterybro42]

Im happy to lose J-Rich in a LMA trade, but not Winslow. For me it needs to be something along the cap-clearing lines of McBob/Ellington/J-Rich for LMA. Winslow should be off-limits here.


I wouldn't mind a 17th shot with Beas, but at some point we need to move on.
No thanks to Melo, or any RFAs.

People need to realize what we are doing and what we are doing is tanking. Goodbye to TJ and his horrible contract. Dragic may be out the door. Anybody and everybody not named Whiteside could be gone if they add a significant amount of Capital to the Cap next season.

Riley is set in stone after going after the Banana Boat crew or others next season and getting ready to retire. He isn't building young he is building to win that year.

Riley won't bring back LeBron and Wade. Forget about it.

If I've learned one thing as a Heat fan over the years, it's to never count Wade out. Deep down beneath the ego and the pride remains the humble Marquette kid Riley drafted 14 years ago. Him coming back and bringing the banana boat would be a full circle reclimation of him as our forever guy franchise hero.

For what it's worth I still think Miami and what was built here holds a special place in LeBrons heart. He was somewhat pushed into that by his agent and his crew.

It's time for everybody to make peace, and come together, I said when LeBron left that this wasn't over, and I still beleive it today. This is redemption for Wade, Riley, even Melo, and CP3. For LeBron it's taking back what's his with his superteam of support behind him.

[Wiltside]

Whatever, bring back Beas and finally turn him into big Melo 2.0.

[twix2500]

If the market is extremely high for Waiters and or Johnson, I would let them go. I will stick with the Heat motto to not spend big money on role players unless they are a fill in player for a title contending team. I would move on to a youth movement. Resign Reed or another young undeveloped big and insert Bam into the starting lineup. Then start shopping Dragic and or Tyler Johnson for draft picks. Send Tyler to New Orleans for a 2019 or 2018 first rounder. Or and revisit looking at Milwaukee and Orlando as possible trade destinations for Dragic.

[broke]

Now it's all settled I'm actually totally fine with no Hayward, that salary is outrageous and sure he'd have made us better but we aren't winning anything with Hayward as our main guy taking up that much salary. I can however now see Dion and JJ leveraging us knowing that we have fewer choices but to take them or risk being trash in a trash eastern conference which kinda sucks.

And I'm a solid pass on banana boat crew raping the Heat cap space just so they can live out the fantasy of playing together. Riley doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who'd let LBJ come in here and treat the Heat like he has the Cavs.

[DayofMourning]

stop, Dom.

pls

Sorry, I just can't believe that with everybody wanting big money we aren't using the draft to add assets.

Losing out on GH doesn't bother me, because his or price tag is crippling. Outside of the big 3 what big FA has Riley landed? He's a trader if anything. Might As well have more assets (young players) to trade when a guy becomes available.

[HIF]

lol If we now have to enter battles to keep JJ and Dion....

That's what is supposed to happen when you give a player a 1 year contract.

[HIF]

Gordon Hayward, 29th in the league in RPM and RPM WINS, wants to make $1M for every player that is better than him. Why did we go after this porpoise again?

Maybe because we don't have a player even on the first page.

[HIF]

If Riley loses his own FAs this will be a black eye the franchise will take years to recover from...

Really?