2017 Nets Offseason Thread III

[ChokeFasncists]

Quick straw poll - what would you rather, KCP@4/80 or trading for Crabbe with Portland's 2018 first?

I prefer KCP. Defense first. He's younger, got more upside. Would be even better if it's 4/60-70

[DartboardT]

And Lin has been coming off the bench for the vast majority of his NBA career so I don't really see your point.

No quite true unless you include pre-Linsanity games that he didn't play. Linsanity Knicks - almost half a season - starting. One full year starting in Houston. More than half a year of coming off the bench in Houston. Lakers - started but had to come off the bench for more than half a year cuz of the tanking. Charlotte - almost a full year of coming off the bench. Brooklyn - started full year but was injured for a long time. The math: 405 games played, 216 started.

I continue to just not get this. Facts are facts.

I get the sense JLin's gone elsewhere after next season anyway (which probably pleases both camps on either side of the fence), so why can't everyone just be happy and enjoy the ride?

Let's see who Marksman's going for next

[kastuul]

PG: Deangelo Russell
SG: KCP
SF: Caris Levert
PF: Carroll
C: Mozgov

6 man: Lin
SF/PF: RHJ
C: J. Allen
PF: Booker

Only BOS fans like this lineup.
The 2018 1st pick will be in their pocket.

[lin is ok]

PG: Deangelo Russell
SG: KCP
SF: Caris Levert
PF: Carroll
C: Mozgov

6 man: Lin
SF/PF: RHJ
C: J. Allen
PF: Booker

Only BOS fans like this lineup.
The 2018 1st pick will

[lin is ok]

And Lin has been coming off the bench for the vast majority of his NBA career so I don't really see your point.

No quite true unless you include pre-Linsanity games that he didn't play. Linsanity Knicks - almost half a season - starting. One full year starting in Houston. More than half a year of coming off the bench in Houston. Lakers - started but had to come off the bench for more than half a year cuz of the tanking. Charlotte - almost a full year of coming off the bench. Brooklyn - started full year but was injured for a long time. The math: 405 games played, 216 started.

I continue to just not get this. Facts are facts.

I get the sense JLin's gone elsewhere after next season anyway (which probably pleases both camps on either side of the fence), so why can't everyone just be happy and enjoy the ride?

Let's see who Marksman's going for next

Wow u really think mark is not going to start lin. Maybe u are right , from the Dlo interviews he is already assuming the leadership position and having to shoulder the team. Toughfor lin sidelined for development again.
Well his fault for getting injured, should have chilled out on the defense.

[kastuul]

No quite true unless you include pre-Linsanity games that he didn't play. Linsanity Knicks - almost half a season - starting. One full year starting in Houston. More than half a year of coming off the bench in Houston. Lakers - started but had to come off the bench for more than half a year cuz of the tanking. Charlotte - almost a full year of coming off the bench. Brooklyn - started full year but was injured for a long time. The math: 405 games played, 216 started.

I continue to just not get this. Facts are facts.

I get the sense JLin's gone elsewhere after next season anyway (which probably pleases both camps on either side of the fence), so why can't everyone just be happy and enjoy the ride?

Let's see who Marksman's going for next

Wow u really think mark is not going to start lin. Maybe u are right , from the Dlo interviews he is already assuming the leadership position and having to shoulder the team. Toughfor lin sidelined for development again.
Well his fault for getting injured, should have chilled out on the defense.

If D-Lo is the reason the Nets losing 6-7games in a short period, they would bench him.
It's still uncertain if he can fit in, particularly the defense.

Last year, who did expect the Nets to start a veteran guard Randy Foye ?

[oldjim]

No quite true unless you include pre-Linsanity games that he didn't play. Linsanity Knicks - almost half a season - starting. One full year starting in Houston. More than half a year of coming off the bench in Houston. Lakers - started but had to come off the bench for more than half a year cuz of the tanking. Charlotte - almost a full year of coming off the bench. Brooklyn - started full year but was injured for a long time. The math: 405 games played, 216 started.

I continue to just not get this. Facts are facts.

I get the sense JLin's gone elsewhere after next season anyway (which probably pleases both camps on either side of the fence), so why can't everyone just be happy and enjoy the ride?

Let's see who Marksman's going for next

Wow u really think mark is not going to start lin. Maybe u are right , from the Dlo interviews he is already assuming the leadership position and having to shoulder the team. Toughfor lin sidelined for development again.
Well his fault for getting injured, should have chilled out on the defense.

DLO will never be a leader in any NBA team, he is only a 3 point shooter just like JJ, you have never seen a starter pg with bad defense and can't drive ,after lin option out , we need to trade a starter pg to replace DLO, or we will on the bottom for years..

[Ror1997]

Carroll is perfect. I think He's a bounce back candidate, and I've been arguing since last deadline that adding him would be great. Last time he was in a system like this he was an all-star.

Now, to dump hamilton and get an early second round pick is good compensation. To get a first out of it? Holy **** Marks. How did you pull that off against Ujiri of all GMs.

I like this trade more than the Aldridge/OKC pick trade idea. Carroll is past his prime but He's still more useful than Aldridge.

I hope KCP is still an option

[brook]

Speculation on Twitter about how this effects LeVert

30 yr old Carroll starts at SF, Nets most glaring need, Nets as GM hinted during DLo trade use @CarisLeVert as back up both G positions

DMC is more of a 4 than 3 now IMO... I see Lin-Dlo-CL-DMC-MOZ

yes but he will start at SF position, with Lin-Russell backcourt, Mozgov and RHJ at PF.
LeVert will be the our version of Manu, 6° man, and will end the game instead of RHJ or Carroll.

Awesome move by Marks.

[kan_t]

I wonder if the Nets are willing to take another bad contract in order to get picks after this move. They still have about $18m-$20m cap space and they are out of the Celtics trade nightmare after next year draft. 18-19 season could be a true tanking season for them and only Mozgov and Nicholson $22M suck cost left in 19-20 season. Instead of signing KCP, taking another bad two years contract may be a way to go. So they would have a high pick with ton of cap space entering the 19-20 season.

[Curns13]

Speculation on Twitter about how this effects LeVert

30 yr old Carroll starts at SF, Nets most glaring need, Nets as GM hinted during DLo trade use @CarisLeVert as back up both G positions

DMC is more of a 4 than 3 now IMO... I see Lin-Dlo-CL-DMC-MOZ

yes but he will start at SF position, with Lin-Russell backcourt, Mozgov and RHJ at PF.
LeVert will be the our version of Manu, 6° man, and will end the game instead of RHJ or Carroll.

Awesome move by Marks.

I agree. Start the year (and the game) with the vets.

1. Lin/Dinwiddie
2. Dlo/Whitehead
3. Carroll/LeVert
4. RHJ/Booker
5. Mozgov/Allen

Eventually Carroll, Lin and Mozgov will all either be replaced or move to the bench. Kinda hoping we get KCP just so we can run out a unit of CLV, KCP, DMC, RHJ. Is that too much to ask?

[treiz]

Marks is a boss.

I'd be really pleased if Markinson decided that this is the roster we head into the season with. If they decide to go for KCP so be it, at least we won't commit too much money on his because of this move. But in general I'm pretty pleased with how this offseason has turned out.

I'm expecting a starting 5 of Lin/Russ/Carroll/RHJ/Mozgov to start the season with as things currently stand.

[NyCeEvO]

Well he said that the battle for the starting center spot was up in the air and went to whoever earned it and I could see Jarrett Allen proving doubters wrong and making an impact right away.

Also he's not gonna Trade Brook for Russell and give 17+ mill to KCP to have either of them come off the bench.

I also assume Acy gets cut unless we make a trade to open up a roster spot.

I think every Nets fan is hoping for Jarrett Allen to prove people wrong but the average late first rounder turns out more like CMC than LeVert, especially when only looking at the start of this upcoming season.

I thought Acy signed a 2 year deal with the Nets? He's a guaranteed contract, no?

Jarrett Allen isn't your typical late first rounder as he was projected to go in the lottery for the vast majority of the season and even ranked as high as 8th at one point. The only reason he dropped to 22 was because most teams already have their center of the future or are looking for combo/stretch bigs.

And nah Acy can be waived anytime before 7/16

Jarrett Allen is 2 years away from being a solid contributor. He's going to need that time just to put on more weight and increase his endurance and muscle stamina. This doesn't even address how raw he is offensively the NBA.

Tons of players are taken all over the 1st round including the lottery who are projects. There was no recently discovered injury concern with him, so there was no justifiable reason for him to drop. Other GMs clearly had him ranked lower on their draft boards than we did. Consequently, he fell to us.

I really like Jarrett's potential but right now it's still potential. He needs plenty of time to play and develop before any thing should be expected of him at the NBA level.

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[Palmeirense]

So, what's our next move? Going after KCP or after a big?

[NyCeEvO]

Quick straw poll - what would you rather, KCP@4/80 or trading for Crabbe with Portland's 2018 first?

Crabbe and a 1st, as long as the protections aren't too high (I'm guessing they will be in the lottery next year in the loaded west). We don't have a pick next year.

But realistically, I think we'll be getting kcp.

I'd be happy with either. It would be great if Portland were desperate enough to take Nicholson off our hands.

I highly doubt that any team would take Nicholson off our hands. Most teams are trying to shed dead weight salary and Nicholson certainly fits that category. If Marks found a way to get rid of him, he's the GOAT lol.

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[twosevenstreet]

To quote myself:

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[Prokorov]

Quick straw poll - what would you rather, KCP@4/80 or trading for Crabbe with Portland's 2018 first?

I prefer KCP. Defense first. He's younger, got more upside. Would be even better if it's 4/60-70

KCP and not even remotely close for me.

Allen crabbe is complete dog turd n BOTH ends of the floor

[Prokorov]

And Lin has been coming off the bench for the vast majority of his NBA career so I don't really see your point.

No quite true unless you include pre-Linsanity games that he didn't play. Linsanity Knicks - almost half a season - starting. One full year starting in Houston. More than half a year of coming off the bench in Houston. Lakers - started but had to come off the bench for more than half a year cuz of the tanking. Charlotte - almost a full year of coming off the bench. Brooklyn - started full year but was injured for a long time. The math: 405 games played, 216 started.

I continue to just not get this. Facts are facts.

I get the sense JLin's gone elsewhere after next season anyway (which probably pleases both camps on either side of the fence), so why can't everyone just be happy and enjoy the ride?

Let's see who Marksman's going for next

i dont want lin to walk/dump him. i want him here as a leader/mentor

[Prokorov]

I continue to just not get this. Facts are facts.

I get the sense JLin's gone elsewhere after next season anyway (which probably pleases both camps on either side of the fence), so why can't everyone just be happy and enjoy the ride?

Let's see who Marksman's going for next

Wow u really think mark is not going to start lin. Maybe u are right , from the Dlo interviews he is already assuming the leadership position and having to shoulder the team. Toughfor lin sidelined for development again.
Well his fault for getting injured, should have chilled out on the defense.

If D-Lo is the reason the Nets losing 6-7games in a short period, they would bench him.
It's still uncertain if he can fit in, particularly the defense.

Last year, who did expect the Nets to start a veteran guard Randy Foye ?

'they wouldnt consider benching him if we lost 20 in a row... nets dont care about losses and let guys play through struggles

[Prokorov]

Hope we are still in on KCP. have plenty of cap to do it. 4/72 i think can get it done, 1M more then THJ got.

Russell, KCP, 2018 1st would but a huge offseason for sean marks.

if not id try and sign dwayne dedmon.