Melo Trade Thread - Sorry Melo, these are the breaks

[moocow007]

Melo to Rockets
Lin, Hartenstein, Quarterman & 2020 protected 1st to Knicks
Anderson, 2022 protected 1st to Nets

Just do it already

At worse this basically moves Anthony's contract without forcing any bad contracts on us.

At best, you get 3 players and a pick that may turn into something. Lin addresses the "PG filler" and his skills I see would probably fit well in Hornacek's free flowing system. He also has a reasonable contract that can be dealt if Lin has a uptick statistically with Hornacek to land the Knicks some nice assets before the deadline. Hartenstein has some strong upside though he's not positionally a big need. But maybe it gives the Knicks some flexibility down the road. Quarterman has good length and versatility to play both guard spots and at worst he's a low risk gamble. That unprotected 1st (presumably from the Rockets) could be timed well (Anthony will be expiring and heading to 36, CP3 will be close behind). Also likely to fit about D'Antoni's usual coaching lifespan with any one team.

This is not getting a treasure trove for Anthony but I doubt that's possible. This definitely beats the big contracts proposals that have been bandied about (better than getting Ryan Anderson or some combo of the Blazer dead weight players). And it's better than just moving Anthony's contract for nothing. I see it as a plus definitely on the trade scale standpoint.

[Knicksfan1992]

The man is a human at the end of the day and only the Rockets/Cavs make sense to go. He may not win a title but the Rockets are a championship contender if he goes there, he would be a missing piece. Those other teams you mentioned are just playoff contenders.

That's the thing tho.. A team like the Blazers I feel Melo makes much more of an impact on than the Rockets. He really doesn't solve any needs for the Rockets. Its not a great fit honestly basketball wise. Melo just wants to play with his friends

Impact?

You mean a bigger role? Yea

Melo on the Rockets = Firepower from every direction.

You can't double Harden or CP3 or Melo, it's too much offense. Chris Paul being the leader that he is will also force Harden & Melo to have better defensive tendencies compared to Melo going to Portland. Rockets as constructed are missing a piece of offense to put them over the top, that is Melo to a T.

And how is it not a great fit basketball wise?

Paul takes the ball out of Harden's hands, Harden play off ball without a problem, Melo can play off ball without a problem & doesn't need constant touches. Playing with two players that love to move the ball & actually are his friends will make him move the hall as well.

They can experiment with PnR's utilizing Paul & Melo or Harden & Melo, Melo can use an inside out game with Paul/Harden, it's a lot of offensive possibilities.

People don't realize the toll it takes on someone's body to be the number 1 option night in and night out for 82 games. We saw it with Melo here in NY. He would be exhausted in the 4th quarter of games. Harden in HOU blatantly was out of gas against SA. There's a reason why these guys want Melo so bad. They know having that extra dude that can get you 20 a game and help in the 4th quarter will benefit everyone come playoff time and it also should allow them to rest their guys more during the regular season knowing you could put any 2 of CP3/Harden/Melo out there on a given night and still be able to beat more than half of the teams in the league still.

[Knox]

Melo to Rockets
Lin, Hartenstein, Quarterman & 2020 protected 1st to Knicks
Anderson, 2022 protected 1st to Nets

Just do it already

At worse this basically moves Anthony's contract without forcing any bad contracts on us.

At best, you get 3 players and a pick that may turn into something. Lin addresses the "PG filler" and his skills I see would probably fit well in Hornacek's free flowing system. He also has a reasonable contract that can be dealt if Lin has a uptick statistically with Hornacek to land the Knicks some nice assets before the deadline. Hartenstein has some strong upside though he's not positionally a big need. But maybe it gives the Knicks some flexibility down the road. Quarterman has good length and versatility to play both guard spots and at worst he's a low risk gamble. That unprotected 1st (presumably from the Rockets) could be timed well (Anthony will be expiring and heading to 36, CP3 will be close behind). Also likely to fit about D'Antoni's usual coaching lifespan with any one team.

This is not getting a treasure trove for Anthony but I doubt that's possible. This definitely beats the big contracts proposals that have been bandied about (better than getting Ryan Anderson or some combo of the Blazer dead weight players). And it's better than just moving Anthony's contract for nothing. I see it as a plus definitely on the trade scale standpoint.

I hate risking the Jeremy Lin Mystique if he were to come back and not have the Garden magic he has

[moocow007]

So Phil Jackson was right saying we will wait until smoke clears after free agency. Now Melo is the only option for Cleveland and Houston. They better find expiring contracts or give up picks if they want him so bad.

Best believe Melo wants to be traded to he can opt in. Melo you not low. If youre not traded you will be a villain for opting into a team that doesn't want you.

I think that's one of the reasons he wants to be traded.

[moocow007]

Melo to Rockets
Lin, Hartenstein, Quarterman & 2020 protected 1st to Knicks
Anderson, 2022 protected 1st to Nets

Just do it already

At worse this basically moves Anthony's contract without forcing any bad contracts on us.

At best, you get 3 players and a pick that may turn into something. Lin addresses the "PG filler" and his skills I see would probably fit well in Hornacek's free flowing system. He also has a reasonable contract that can be dealt if Lin has a uptick statistically with Hornacek to land the Knicks some nice assets before the deadline. Hartenstein has some strong upside though he's not positionally a big need. But maybe it gives the Knicks some flexibility down the road. Quarterman has good length and versatility to play both guard spots and at worst he's a low risk gamble. That unprotected 1st (presumably from the Rockets) could be timed well (Anthony will be expiring and heading to 36, CP3 will be close behind). Also likely to fit about D'Antoni's usual coaching lifespan with any one team.

This is not getting a treasure trove for Anthony but I doubt that's possible. This definitely beats the big contracts proposals that have been bandied about (better than getting Ryan Anderson or some combo of the Blazer dead weight players). And it's better than just moving Anthony's contract for nothing. I see it as a plus definitely on the trade scale standpoint.

I hate risking the Jeremy Lin Mystique if he were to come back and not have the Garden magic he has

He's unlikely to relive Linsanity sure but in a rebuild playing for Hornacek's system I think he'll do better than he has in years and make himself a very good trade asset for the Knicks come the trade deadline when the Knicks should already be planning for the lottery. It's better than getting big immovable contracts. And the Knicks do need to move on from Anthony. This would be one of the better trades. Not it's not great, but great isn't realistic.

[NotPhilJackson]

Melo to Rockets
Lin, Hartenstein, Quarterman & 2020 protected 1st to Knicks
Anderson, 2022 protected 1st to Nets

Just do it already

very bad trade for us...

Not great but if it's that or have Melo til he opts out... I don't understand the dilemma.

We are either taking on a large contract or splitting our assets with a third party. Period. You can't get it any other way so accept it as Knicks fans. Melo has a NTC. We aren't in control just like he's not in control. We can all just say no.

It's a fine trade. The guy is leaving anyway - get a few younglings and a pick and wipe your hands clean. Lin can start in front of Frank.

We have much less to lose than HOU by doing nothing but you can't demand much more from them.

[F N 11]

So Phil Jackson was right saying we will wait until smoke clears after free agency. Now Melo is the only option for Cleveland and Houston. They better find expiring contracts or give up picks if they want him so bad.

Best believe Melo wants to be traded to he can opt in. Melo you not low. If youre not traded you will be a villain for opting into a team that doesn't want you.

I think that's one of the reasons he wants to be traded.

I doubt him and CP3 does a Miami heat thing and take significantly less to build a better team. Highly doubt it.

[juandavidgv]

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Interesting, Portland looks like a smokescreen and they are actually trying to get a team to take Meyers Leonard contract.

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[NotPhilJackson]

i didn't see lin in that deal...no thanks...

what happened to Russell underwear man?

That deal was reliant upon POR being team #4

[Knox]

At worse this basically moves Anthony's contract without forcing any bad contracts on us.

At best, you get 3 players and a pick that may turn into something. Lin addresses the "PG filler" and his skills I see would probably fit well in Hornacek's free flowing system. He also has a reasonable contract that can be dealt if Lin has a uptick statistically with Hornacek to land the Knicks some nice assets before the deadline. Hartenstein has some strong upside though he's not positionally a big need. But maybe it gives the Knicks some flexibility down the road. Quarterman has good length and versatility to play both guard spots and at worst he's a low risk gamble. That unprotected 1st (presumably from the Rockets) could be timed well (Anthony will be expiring and heading to 36, CP3 will be close behind). Also likely to fit about D'Antoni's usual coaching lifespan with any one team.

This is not getting a treasure trove for Anthony but I doubt that's possible. This definitely beats the big contracts proposals that have been bandied about (better than getting Ryan Anderson or some combo of the Blazer dead weight players). And it's better than just moving Anthony's contract for nothing. I see it as a plus definitely on the trade scale standpoint.

I hate risking the Jeremy Lin Mystique if he were to come back and not have the Garden magic he has

He's unlikely to relive Linsanity sure but in a rebuild playing for Hornacek's system I think he'll do better than he has in years and make himself a very good trade asset for the Knicks come the trade deadline when the Knicks should already be planning for the lottery. It's better than getting big immovable contracts. And the Knicks do need to move on from Anthony. This would be one of the better trades. Not it's not great, but great isn't realistic.

Feels like the compromise lets move on type of trade ...But we are all holding out for the 3-4 way deal for a bigger pay day

[moocow007]

So Phil Jackson was right saying we will wait until smoke clears after free agency. Now Melo is the only option for Cleveland and Houston. They better find expiring contracts or give up picks if they want him so bad.

Best believe Melo wants to be traded to he can opt in. Melo you not low. If youre not traded you will be a villain for opting into a team that doesn't want you.

I think that's one of the reasons he wants to be traded.

I doubt him and CP3 does a Miami heat thing and take significantly less to build a better team. Highly doubt it.

No I meant that he wants to be traded so he can opt in with the Rockets (who want him)...and stay the full 2 years left under his current contract...as compared to opting in with the Knicks who clearly don't want him...and having to fend for a lot less money somewhere else.

[Fury]

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Interesting, Portland looks like a smokescreen and they are actually trying to get a team to take Meyers Leonard contract.

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Why would they smokescreen?

[F N 11]

I think that's one of the reasons he wants to be traded.

I doubt him and CP3 does a Miami heat thing and take significantly less to build a better team. Highly doubt it.

No I meant that he wants to be traded so he can opt in with the Rockets (who want him) as compared to opting in with the Knicks who clearly don't want him.

I agreed that's what my original post stated. However I was saying I doubt he does opt out and become a FA with CP to take less to add more to the team.

[moocow007]

I hate risking the Jeremy Lin Mystique if he were to come back and not have the Garden magic he has

He's unlikely to relive Linsanity sure but in a rebuild playing for Hornacek's system I think he'll do better than he has in years and make himself a very good trade asset for the Knicks come the trade deadline when the Knicks should already be planning for the lottery. It's better than getting big immovable contracts. And the Knicks do need to move on from Anthony. This would be one of the better trades. Not it's not great, but great isn't realistic.

Feels like the compromise lets move on type of trade ...But we are all holding out for the 3-4 way deal for a bigger pay day

Oh definitely. If we can get better sure. But this package is better than a Moe Harkless (along with a bad contract) lead package which is the best "realistic" package I've heard so far. If Lin can average 15-16 points a game the Knicks (shouldn't be too hard in Hornackes offense even if Lin comes off the bench as a 6th man) they should be able to move him for a 1st round pick (so they can avoid any Lin drama for too long). That would make it 2 1st round picks along with 2 young players (one of whom has some pretty strong upside) for Anthony. With the capspace this creates they can also immediately look for teams that may want to create some cap of their own and acquire some assets by taking on some contracts. Still have time.

[moocow007]

I doubt him and CP3 does a Miami heat thing and take significantly less to build a better team. Highly doubt it.

No I meant that he wants to be traded so he can opt in with the Rockets (who want him) as compared to opting in with the Knicks who clearly don't want him.

I agreed that's what my original post stated. However I was saying I doubt he does opt out and become a FA with CP to take less to add more to the team.

Gotcha. Agreed.

[F N 11]

did anyone catch WOJ on the jump talking Melo today? ( I seen a couple of tweets) i cant post them here at work.
But it was something about WOJ spoke to Morey about the sale of the team impacting melo negotations and Morey told him they wont affect at all (also that if they can agree on a melo trade and it cost them more- Leslie Alexander is willing to spend on the way out

Direct quote from a poster on clutchfans

[NotPhilJackson]

Melo to Rockets
Lin, Hartenstein, Quarterman & 2020 protected 1st to Knicks
Anderson, 2022 protected 1st to Nets

Just do it already

At worse this basically moves Anthony's contract without forcing any bad contracts on us.

At best, you get 3 players and a pick that may turn into something. Lin addresses the "PG filler" and his skills I see would probably fit well in Hornacek's free flowing system. He also has a reasonable contract that can be dealt if Lin has a uptick statistically with Hornacek to land the Knicks some nice assets before the deadline. Hartenstein has some strong upside though he's not positionally a big need. But maybe it gives the Knicks some flexibility down the road. Quarterman has good length and versatility to play both guard spots and at worst he's a low risk gamble. That unprotected 1st (presumably from the Rockets) could be timed well (Anthony will be expiring and heading to 36, CP3 will be close behind). Also likely to fit about D'Antoni's usual coaching lifespan with any one team.

This is not getting a treasure trove for Anthony but I doubt that's possible. This definitely beats the big contracts proposals that have been bandied about (better than getting Ryan Anderson or some combo of the Blazer dead weight players). And it's better than just moving Anthony's contract for nothing. I see it as a plus definitely on the trade scale standpoint.

He's unlikely to relive Linsanity sure but in a rebuild playing for Hornacek's system I think he'll do better than he has in years and make himself a very good trade asset for the Knicks come the trade deadline when the Knicks should already be planning for the lottery. It's better than getting big immovable contracts. And the Knicks do need to move on from Anthony. This would be one of the better trades. Not it's not great, but great isn't realistic.

This. Exactly my point.

[xsaberx]

Just make it super simple
Direct trade with Houston
Melo for Anderson - and Houston sends us a pick for Melo, and a pick and a swap for swallowing Anderson
2020 unprotected
2021 swap rights
2022 unprotected

[F N 11]

Just make it super simple
Direct trade with Houston
Melo for Anderson - and Houston sends us a pick for Melo, and a pick and a swap for swallowing Anderson
2020 unprotected
2021 swap rights
2022 unprotected

yeah lets take 3 years of Ryan Anderson at 20 Million when we just preached Defense, Youth, and athleticism at the press conference lol. Not to mention KP, and Willy is on the team. Oh and Noah and KOQ. Lets add another big why not?

[moocow007]

did anyone catch WOJ on the jump talking Melo today? ( I seen a couple of tweets) i cant post them here at work.
But it was something about WOJ spoke to Morey about the sale of the team impacting melo negotations and Morey told him they wont affect at all (also that if they can agree on a melo trade and it cost them more- Leslie Alexander is willing to spend on the way out

Direct quote from a poster on clutchfans

Considering the Leslie Alexander bought the Rockets for about 90 million and the team is currently worth well over a billion, I think he can afford the $55 million or whatever Anthony will be owed.