Moar Melo Thread - Update PG 17 - THE Mike Rice says NY/Por/Hou back on

[Sark]

OKC isn't trading Adams, Westbrook, nor George. They are trying to compete with GS, not go backwards.

I want Melo to want Miami. I want Bam.

Miami says no.

[2010]

This whole ordeal underscores how inept Phil Jackson was as a GM. The little bit of money Melo left on the table when he re-signed his contract was no where near worth the leverage he gained in being granted the no trade clause.

It is not like that meager amount of money Melo sacrificed allowed us to do something monumental. If anything, it just gave us more money to waste on damaged goods in the form of Noah, another bum we overpaid who had no leverage, was coming off an injury-riddled year and should have been signed for at most $10 million per (if that).

The Melo NTC and Noah signing have proven to be devastating gaffes in hindsight by Phil Jackson. Just two absolutely horrible decisions.

Saddest part is, the publicly played tactic of negotiating through the media to essentially bully Melo into taking a bit less than his max was less about leaving room for flexibility and more so about Zen mind games and publicly neutering Melo. The little hard-on Phil got out of it was totally not worth the massive repercussions of giving Melo this horrid NTC.

[stuporman]

LOL Pages of OKC trades based on a Bill Simmons tweet.

Pages of Kyrie trades based on a trade request list.

Pages and pages and pages of Melo to Houston. 2 yard line tweets. Done deal tweets.

Pages of Melo to Portland.

Just STFU AND GTFO ALREADY! I can't wait for this to end. Hopefully soon. Hopefully a reasonable deal.

I don't want Kyrie unless it's Melo scraps and ONE 1st. No Frank. No Willy.

Everything else...no crap deals. Period.

Otherwise....6th MOY Melo is what i expect.

People whining about basketball talk on a basketball forum....

[mpharris36]

This whole ordeal underscores how inept Phil Jackson was as a GM. The little bit of money Melo left on the table when he re-signed his contract was no where near worth the leverage he gained in being granted the no trade clause.

It is not like that meager amount of money Melo sacrificed allowed us to do something monumental. If anything, it just gave us more money to waste on damaged goods in the form of Noah, another bum we overpaid who had no leverage was coming off an injury-riddled year and should have been signed for at most $10 million per (if that).

The Melo NTC and Noah signing have proven to be devastating gaffes in hindsight by Phil Jackson. Just two absolutely horrible decisions.

Saddest part is, the publicly played tactic of negotiating through the media to essentially bully Melo into taking a bit less than his max was less about leaving room for flexibility and more so about Zen mind games and publicly neutering Melo. The little hard-on Phil got out of it was totally not worth the massive repercussions of giving Melo this horrid NTC.

i don't remember both being mutally inclusive together?

[2010]

This whole ordeal underscores how inept Phil Jackson was as a GM. The little bit of money Melo left on the table when he re-signed his contract was no where near worth the leverage he gained in being granted the no trade clause.

It is not like that meager amount of money Melo sacrificed allowed us to do something monumental. If anything, it just gave us more money to waste on damaged goods in the form of Noah, another bum we overpaid who had no leverage was coming off an injury-riddled year and should have been signed for at most $10 million per (if that).

The Melo NTC and Noah signing have proven to be devastating gaffes in hindsight by Phil Jackson. Just two absolutely horrible decisions.

Saddest part is, the publicly played tactic of negotiating through the media to essentially bully Melo into taking a bit less than his max was less about leaving room for flexibility and more so about Zen mind games and publicly neutering Melo. The little hard-on Phil got out of it was totally not worth the massive repercussions of giving Melo this horrid NTC.

i don't remember both being mutally inclusive together?

I recall Melo sacrificing money for the security of being ensured his family would stay rooted in NY unless he approved of any potential trade.

[Riot Randolph]

I wish we could get Roberson

[Riot Randolph]

LOL Pages of OKC trades based on a Bill Simmons tweet.

Pages of Kyrie trades based on a trade request list.

Pages and pages and pages of Melo to Houston. 2 yard line tweets. Done deal tweets.

Pages of Melo to Portland.

Just STFU AND GTFO ALREADY! I can't wait for this to end. Hopefully soon. Hopefully a reasonable deal.

I don't want Kyrie unless it's Melo scraps and ONE 1st. No Frank. No Willy.

Everything else...no crap deals. Period.

Otherwise....6th MOY Melo is what i expect.

People whining about basketball talk on a basketball forum....

No he wants the Melo hubub to be done with

[2010]

This whole ordeal underscores how inept Phil Jackson was as a GM. The little bit of money Melo left on the table when he re-signed his contract was no where near worth the leverage he gained in being granted the no trade clause.

It is not like that meager amount of money Melo sacrificed allowed us to do something monumental. If anything, it just gave us more money to waste on damaged goods in the form of Noah, another bum we overpaid who had no leverage was coming off an injury-riddled year and should have been signed for at most $10 million per (if that).

The Melo NTC and Noah signing have proven to be devastating gaffes in hindsight by Phil Jackson. Just two absolutely horrible decisions.

Saddest part is, the publicly played tactic of negotiating through the media to essentially bully Melo into taking a bit less than his max was less about leaving room for flexibility and more so about Zen mind games and publicly neutering Melo. The little hard-on Phil got out of it was totally not worth the massive repercussions of giving Melo this horrid NTC.

i don't remember both being mutally inclusive together?

Melo left $7million in total on the table.

According to Frank Isola of the New York Daily News, Melo's new contract includes a no-trade clause, allowing him to veto any possible trades that he doesn't want to be included in. But that's not all of the power Melo has in this new deal. He can also opt out of his five-year deal after year 4, giving him the flexibility to be a free agent in 2018, according to Ian Begley of ESPN New York.

It seems unlikely Melo will be in the position to better his financial standing in the league in terms of salary when he's 35 years old and slated to make somewhere in the neighborhood of $30 million. However, he could always decide to opt out to either leave for a better situation if the Knicks aren't a title contender there, or he can try to secure a long-term deal at a discounted rate. Phil Jackson giving him that kind of power over his own future with the team is a nice concession for sticking it out with Phil's plan.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/report-carmelo-anthony-has-no-trade-clause-opt-out-in-new-deal/

[Knicksfan1992]

OKC isn't trading Adams, Westbrook, nor George. They are trying to compete with GS, not go backwards.

Yep Presti senses that he can sneak in on a deal yet again and get a premier player for what could be considered a discount.

I mean let's face it the hardest obstacle in a Melo trade at this point is getting him to agree to go there.

OKC's offer blows Houston's and Cleveland's out of the water because they actually have some young talent in addition to a shorter term bloated contract. If Melo gives them the ok they can beat the other team's offers while still getting Melo at a good price.

[2010]

I wish we could get Roberson

He would make more sense if we were looking to win now. We're rebuilding. Acquiring a guy like Ferguson and developing him is more in line with the plan than going after Roberson. Plus, if OKC is indeed looking to acquire Melo they undoubtedly would want to keep Roberson as a defensive role player to make up for some of Melo's shortcomings.

We should be asking for Adams and Ferguson, with our settling point as Kanter, Ferguson, Abrines and the Chicago 2nd rounder.

[Knicksfan1992]

I wish we could get Roberson

Eh he would get exposed here without a player of Westbrook's caliber next to him. He's really unplayable offensively and that shot isn't getting fixed any time soon. He's good where he's at.

[Greenie]

it would be Kanter plus a player to make salaries work

otherwise itll be challenging

Adams is their only other expendable player who makes significant money

Kanter doesnt really have a future on this team IMO

I love me some Adams.

Isn't Adams a mediocre rebounder?

Ehh. Solid. Something like Rolo. Solid defensively, can score a little and will knock you the fuq out.

[Greenie]

This whole ordeal underscores how inept Phil Jackson was as a GM. The little bit of money Melo left on the table when he re-signed his contract was no where near worth the leverage he gained in being granted the no trade clause.

It is not like that meager amount of money Melo sacrificed allowed us to do something monumental. If anything, it just gave us more money to waste on damaged goods in the form of Noah, another bum we overpaid who had no leverage was coming off an injury-riddled year and should have been signed for at most $10 million per (if that).

The Melo NTC and Noah signing have proven to be devastating gaffes in hindsight by Phil Jackson. Just two absolutely horrible decisions.

Saddest part is, the publicly played tactic of negotiating through the media to essentially bully Melo into taking a bit less than his max was less about leaving room for flexibility and more so about Zen mind games and publicly neutering Melo. The little hard-on Phil got out of it was totally not worth the massive repercussions of giving Melo this horrid NTC.

i don't remember both being mutally inclusive together?

I recall Melo sacrificing money for the security of being ensured his family would stay rooted in NY unless he approved of any potential trade.

That was so Phil could go get FA's...
Melo waa smart as all hell to insist on the NTC so he couldn't get **** on by Phil.

[Greenie]

OKC isn't trading Adams, Westbrook, nor George. They are trying to compete with GS, not go backwards.

I want Melo to want Miami. I want Bam.

Miami says no.

Well then we keep Melo and let him expire.

[Pointgod]

This whole ordeal underscores how inept Phil Jackson was as a GM. The little bit of money Melo left on the table when he re-signed his contract was no where near worth the leverage he gained in being granted the no trade clause.

It is not like that meager amount of money Melo sacrificed allowed us to do something monumental. If anything, it just gave us more money to waste on damaged goods in the form of Noah, another bum we overpaid who had no leverage, was coming off an injury-riddled year and should have been signed for at most $10 million per (if that).

The Melo NTC and Noah signing have proven to be devastating gaffes in hindsight by Phil Jackson. Just two absolutely horrible decisions.

Saddest part is, the publicly played tactic of negotiating through the media to essentially bully Melo into taking a bit less than his max was less about leaving room for flexibility and more so about Zen mind games and publicly neutering Melo. The little hard-on Phil got out of it was totally not worth the massive repercussions of giving Melo this horrid NTC.

This. It's amazing the damage that Phil did to the Knicks in such a short time frame. I don't think he did anything good other than draft (jury is still out on Frank) and not trade future draft picks. Everything else he touched turned to ****.

[blueNorange]

I want Melo to want Miami. I want Bam.

Miami says no.

Well then we keep Melo and let him expire.

that won't happen for many reasons.

1. perry/mills want to start new
2. melo won't take a backseat to thj/willy/baker/frank/kristaps
3. this team needs to end this marriage

[mpharris36]

This whole ordeal underscores how inept Phil Jackson was as a GM. The little bit of money Melo left on the table when he re-signed his contract was no where near worth the leverage he gained in being granted the no trade clause.

It is not like that meager amount of money Melo sacrificed allowed us to do something monumental. If anything, it just gave us more money to waste on damaged goods in the form of Noah, another bum we overpaid who had no leverage was coming off an injury-riddled year and should have been signed for at most $10 million per (if that).

The Melo NTC and Noah signing have proven to be devastating gaffes in hindsight by Phil Jackson. Just two absolutely horrible decisions.

Saddest part is, the publicly played tactic of negotiating through the media to essentially bully Melo into taking a bit less than his max was less about leaving room for flexibility and more so about Zen mind games and publicly neutering Melo. The little hard-on Phil got out of it was totally not worth the massive repercussions of giving Melo this horrid NTC.

i don't remember both being mutally inclusive together?

I recall Melo sacrificing money for the security of being ensured his family would stay rooted in NY unless he approved of any potential trade.

thats not how I believe it was to happen. Melo took less to hopefully secure more FA's.

Melo wasn't signing a 5 year deal without a NTC. It was about 7 million or a NTC. Melo was willing to sign a 1+1 deal if he didn't get his NTC. Melo just wanted to insure he wasn't going to spend multiple years in memphis or minnesota somewhere he didn't want to play. I don't think that had anything to do with the 7 million.

Its not like if we gave him the full max he would have said ok fine I won't take the NTC now...

[2010]

i don't remember both being mutally inclusive together?

I recall Melo sacrificing money for the security of being ensured his family would stay rooted in NY unless he approved of any potential trade.

That was so Phil could go get FA's...
Melo waa smart as all hell to insist on the NTC so he couldn't get **** on by Phil.

Funny thing is the consensus is that Phil is the Zen master and a scholar.

The narrative is also that Melo is not the sharpest knife in the drawer. Yet Melo totally won that contract negotiation (NTC, 15% trade kicker, and player option in 2018). Melo also outlasted Phil and saw him gtfo before he himself was traded.

Noah also took Phil to the cleaners in contract negotiations when it seemed NY had all the leverage (Noah is from NY, Noah wanted to come here once we traded for Rose, Noah was coming off a major shoulder surgery, other teams were not beating down the door to offer Noah $17 million per, etc.)

Also, Phil came out on the short end of the stick in every trade negotiation he was involved in.

In summation, this guy is not as intelligent as he pretends to be or as much as the fans portray.

[2010]

i don't remember both being mutally inclusive together?

I recall Melo sacrificing money for the security of being ensured his family would stay rooted in NY unless he approved of any potential trade.

thats not how I believe it was to happen. Melo took less to hopefully secure more FA's.

Melo wasn't signing a 5 year deal without a NTC. It was about 7 million or a NTC. Melo was willing to sign a 1+1 deal if he didn't get his NTC. Melo just wanted to insure he wasn't going to spend multiple years in memphis or minnesota somewhere he didn't want to play. I don't think that had anything to do with the 7 million.

Its not like if we gave him the full max he would have said ok fine I won't take the NTC now...

I don't see it that way. And the quote from the article I posted doesn't either.

The $7 million Melo left on the table was across the life of the contract. Saving us ~$1.4 million per year. Which is the equivalent to the NBA veteran's minimum. What free agent were we signing with that?

[F N 11]

The fact that it is quiet is a good thing. Moving along.