Random Thoughts; XVIII

[RaisingArizona]

Where do you all talk about the Phins around here? I need a support system after seeing Ryan go down and now I'm hearing rumors of Krapernick arise.

All aboard the Kaepernick train.

I was typing a paper when I found out tannehill hyperextended his knee and I needed an hour to collect my thoughts and ward off depression.

I mean I think Matt Moore is a good enough back up to assume the starting role and get things done if Landry, Parker, and ajayi take another step forward.

I feel more bummed about the career trajectory of Ryan tannehill. I really think he's been underdeveloped for reasons out of his control and has endure unfair bs, not being able to call audibles and make pre snap decisions, never having the support of your coach who kinda low key trashes you in the media, having fans berate you on the internet. Then finally he gets a coach who will ride for him, his team starts really giving good effort week in and week out, he's able to gain confidence by winning a couple of ugly games at the end, teams on its way to the playoffs and then he gets hurt.

I really wanted to see him get a decent shot this year at showing what he could do in a stable situation with the full support of his teammates. I'm kinda rooting for him to go against the surgery and risk it all for a shot at proving himself as a qb this year. I feel bad for him

Luckily, Matt Moore is one of the best backups in the league so all is not lost in terms of the regular season. But for the playoffs, we need a healthy Tannehill to compete. JTrain will have to carry a larger load this year.

[Wolfy1983]

Fins gotta bring in Kapaepernick ASAP!

[MettaWorldPanda]

If the Phins bring anyone in it's most likely going to be Jay Cutler. Gase and Cutler have a good history with each other.

[PizzaLord305]

If the Phins bring anyone in it's most likely going to be Jay Cutler. Gase and Cutler have a good history with each other.

And cutler can be really good at times. If we were gonna bring someone in cause tanny needs to have surgery, I'd prefer him. I don't think Cuban fans would be too happy with us if we signed kap and at this point I think he kinda sucks.

[PizzaLord305]

i dont know why i was foolish enough not to watch the got episode 4 on the link i found 3 hours ago when i found it, cause its since been taken down and now i gotta wait till sunday -_-

[JaysRule25]

Going through 4:44 right now. Anyone else listen to it?

Spoiler:

Haven't heard much of any of it just the Story of OJ song and I tried to watch that 4:44 excerpt but it seemed kinda' corny. I barely listen to full albums of anybody and I'm not a huge Jay-z fan although I recognize the legend status, so eh maybe I will someday.

I like the Story of OJ in theory but I'm tired of hypocritical fake deep hotep nonsense that rappers looking for depth trot out. First they find someone/ some class of people defenseless enough to sell out and exalt themselves as examples. OJ's chit and has been a chit human being for a long time but on the basis of his song, the reference is a bit much. "I'm not black, I'm OJ" is not all that he tried to make it out to be, his favorite artist Basquiat said the same thing yet he's wearing headless kings T-Shirt's all up and down Brooklyn. They didn't mean to single themselves out, they were trying to make a point. For him to push petty bourgeois self-righteous rhetoric on top of that makes me a little uneasy but from a purely musical standpoint I dig it. The racist 60's cartoon graphic to the Harlem swing jazz tune was powerful of its own

Just listened to Adnis while writing this, not bad. Sincerity's always been a thing for me about Jay, why I like Ye' better.

Spoiler:

I think talent wise jay z is a top 10 rapper ever, but his music will never do it for me.

His music post black album comes off as an attempt at some weird pretentious nonsense mixed with celebrity stunting, and yeah I just think it's corny. I'm here for the rappers who brag about a lavish lifestyle as someone whose never lived one, it's cool go for it, but he just doesn't do it for me.

Also, I think he's too old for this chit lol. I think hip hop is more of a young mans realm. I don't wanna see drake making music at jay z's age.

I think Kanye and drake make much better music, despite not being as lyrically talented.

Yeah, I felt the same way as you guys. Listening to this, just seems like Jay-Z's era has passed. From a flow standpoint, the rap talent is still there, but it just feels like he's trying way too hard to push himself as some intellectual presenting ideas we've never heard before. Just ends up coming off an unauthentic.

Of course, I get that the guy is a successful businessman with a wife and kids now, and can't exactly rap about being a gangbanger anymore without sounding fake as hell (just like 50 Cent does now in his new stuff). But listening to Jay-Z talk about relationship issues with Beyoncé and his mom being a lesbian just seemed weird, like is this People magazine or something? lol.

And the song Kill Jay-Z just came as hypocritical. Like now you're gonna criticize the past Jay-Z, but still take advantage of the success and riches that it brought you? It's cool to want to be a better man and move on from that lifestyle, but it can be done without disrespecting the past. Kill Jay-Z just came off as a slap in the face to every fan who supported his songs in the past, or still lives a rough lifestyle. Like he's too good for us now that he's made it out of that life.

Not much of a JayZ fan Jay Feel free to share songs that you like

This album didn't really have that one or two must-play tracks. Whole album just played like one big song lol. Couple of tracks I liked were The Story of OJ and Caught Their Eyes. Wouldn't really recommend the album if you aren't a fan Iggs, but maybe something to keep in the backburner if you're ever bored and want to listen to something unusual

Did not like the album at all. I grew up a big time Jay fan but he's lost it. Beyonce made him into a Mr Softee. I'm waiting on Action Bronson's album to drop on the 25th Bluechips 7000. Just came out with his new single Chairman's Intent. Give it a peep

Hell yeah Panda, huge Action Bronson fan here. Dude is hilarious

Blue Chips been delayed like crazy, hopefully it comes out on the 25th with no issues.

[JaysRule25]

Now here's something that I think we can all agree is dope

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Killer verse by Big Sean. Rick Ross has lost so much weight

[MettaWorldPanda]

Get hype Phins fans

[PizzaLord305]

Spoiler:

Haven't heard much of any of it just the Story of OJ song and I tried to watch that 4:44 excerpt but it seemed kinda' corny. I barely listen to full albums of anybody and I'm not a huge Jay-z fan although I recognize the legend status, so eh maybe I will someday.

I like the Story of OJ in theory but I'm tired of hypocritical fake deep hotep nonsense that rappers looking for depth trot out. First they find someone/ some class of people defenseless enough to sell out and exalt themselves as examples. OJ's chit and has been a chit human being for a long time but on the basis of his song, the reference is a bit much. "I'm not black, I'm OJ" is not all that he tried to make it out to be, his favorite artist Basquiat said the same thing yet he's wearing headless kings T-Shirt's all up and down Brooklyn. They didn't mean to single themselves out, they were trying to make a point. For him to push petty bourgeois self-righteous rhetoric on top of that makes me a little uneasy but from a purely musical standpoint I dig it. The racist 60's cartoon graphic to the Harlem swing jazz tune was powerful of its own

Just listened to Adnis while writing this, not bad. Sincerity's always been a thing for me about Jay, why I like Ye' better.

Spoiler:

I think talent wise jay z is a top 10 rapper ever, but his music will never do it for me.

His music post black album comes off as an attempt at some weird pretentious nonsense mixed with celebrity stunting, and yeah I just think it's corny. I'm here for the rappers who brag about a lavish lifestyle as someone whose never lived one, it's cool go for it, but he just doesn't do it for me.

Also, I think he's too old for this chit lol. I think hip hop is more of a young mans realm. I don't wanna see drake making music at jay z's age.

I think Kanye and drake make much better music, despite not being as lyrically talented.

Yeah, I felt the same way as you guys. Listening to this, just seems like Jay-Z's era has passed. From a flow standpoint, the rap talent is still there, but it just feels like he's trying way too hard to push himself as some intellectual presenting ideas we've never heard before. Just ends up coming off an unauthentic.

Of course, I get that the guy is a successful businessman with a wife and kids now, and can't exactly rap about being a gangbanger anymore without sounding fake as hell (just like 50 Cent does now in his new stuff). But listening to Jay-Z talk about relationship issues with Beyoncé and his mom being a lesbian just seemed weird, like is this People magazine or something? lol.

And the song Kill Jay-Z just came as hypocritical. Like now you're gonna criticize the past Jay-Z, but still take advantage of the success and riches that it brought you? It's cool to want to be a better man and move on from that lifestyle, but it can be done without disrespecting the past. Kill Jay-Z just came off as a slap in the face to every fan who supported his songs in the past, or still lives a rough lifestyle. Like he's too good for us now that he's made it out of that life.

Not much of a JayZ fan Jay Feel free to share songs that you like

This album didn't really have that one or two must-play tracks. Whole album just played like one big song lol. Couple of tracks I liked were The Story of OJ and Caught Their Eyes. Wouldn't really recommend the album if you aren't a fan Iggs, but maybe something to keep in the backburner if you're ever bored and want to listen to something unusual

Did not like the album at all. I grew up a big time Jay fan but he's lost it. Beyonce made him into a Mr Softee. I'm waiting on Action Bronson's album to drop on the 25th Bluechips 7000. Just came out with his new single Chairman's Intent. Give it a peep

Hell yeah Panda, huge Action Bronson fan here. Dude is hilarious

Blue Chips been delayed like crazy, hopefully it comes out on the 25th with no issues.

I never watch music videos, but I go out of my way to watch actions cause they're great lol. His newest one is really funny, for that chairmen intent song

[PizzaLord305]

Get hype Phins fans

Ay man somebody has to get my man juice the ball. The dolphins qb wife roster would start to get serious for us cause Kristen whatever is hot, but not quite at that New England level.

[Rock Hardy]

hey guys. is there a heat board fantasy basketball league? i was hoping to use this as a carrot to get me to follow the rest of the league more closely this season.

[Cmon_Son-_-]

Spoiler:

Haven't heard much of any of it just the Story of OJ song and I tried to watch that 4:44 excerpt but it seemed kinda' corny. I barely listen to full albums of anybody and I'm not a huge Jay-z fan although I recognize the legend status, so eh maybe I will someday.

I like the Story of OJ in theory but I'm tired of hypocritical fake deep hotep nonsense that rappers looking for depth trot out. First they find someone/ some class of people defenseless enough to sell out and exalt themselves as examples. OJ's chit and has been a chit human being for a long time but on the basis of his song, the reference is a bit much. "I'm not black, I'm OJ" is not all that he tried to make it out to be, his favorite artist Basquiat said the same thing yet he's wearing headless kings T-Shirt's all up and down Brooklyn. They didn't mean to single themselves out, they were trying to make a point. For him to push petty bourgeois self-righteous rhetoric on top of that makes me a little uneasy but from a purely musical standpoint I dig it. The racist 60's cartoon graphic to the Harlem swing jazz tune was powerful of its own

Just listened to Adnis while writing this, not bad. Sincerity's always been a thing for me about Jay, why I like Ye' better.

Spoiler:

I think talent wise jay z is a top 10 rapper ever, but his music will never do it for me.

His music post black album comes off as an attempt at some weird pretentious nonsense mixed with celebrity stunting, and yeah I just think it's corny. I'm here for the rappers who brag about a lavish lifestyle as someone whose never lived one, it's cool go for it, but he just doesn't do it for me.

Also, I think he's too old for this chit lol. I think hip hop is more of a young mans realm. I don't wanna see drake making music at jay z's age.

I think Kanye and drake make much better music, despite not being as lyrically talented.

Yeah, I felt the same way as you guys. Listening to this, just seems like Jay-Z's era has passed. From a flow standpoint, the rap talent is still there, but it just feels like he's trying way too hard to push himself as some intellectual presenting ideas we've never heard before. Just ends up coming off an unauthentic.

Of course, I get that the guy is a successful businessman with a wife and kids now, and can't exactly rap about being a gangbanger anymore without sounding fake as hell (just like 50 Cent does now in his new stuff). But listening to Jay-Z talk about relationship issues with Beyoncé and his mom being a lesbian just seemed weird, like is this People magazine or something? lol.

And the song Kill Jay-Z just came as hypocritical. Like now you're gonna criticize the past Jay-Z, but still take advantage of the success and riches that it brought you? It's cool to want to be a better man and move on from that lifestyle, but it can be done without disrespecting the past. Kill Jay-Z just came off as a slap in the face to every fan who supported his songs in the past, or still lives a rough lifestyle. Like he's too good for us now that he's made it out of that life.

Not much of a JayZ fan Jay Feel free to share songs that you like

This album didn't really have that one or two must-play tracks. Whole album just played like one big song lol. Couple of tracks I liked were The Story of OJ and Caught Their Eyes. Wouldn't really recommend the album if you aren't a fan Iggs, but maybe something to keep in the backburner if you're ever bored and want to listen to something unusual

Did not like the album at all. I grew up a big time Jay fan but he's lost it. Beyonce made him into a Mr Softee. I'm waiting on Action Bronson's album to drop on the 25th Bluechips 7000. Just came out with his new single Chairman's Intent. Give it a peep

Hell yeah Panda, huge Action Bronson fan here. Dude is hilarious

Blue Chips been delayed like crazy, hopefully it comes out on the 25th with no issues.

I disagree with most of what y'all said.
Jay is talking about his personal life at an open level that you'll rarely ever see many rappers do. If anything it feels weird because you're not used to seeing a rapper talk about themselves like that. The song Kill JayZ is about letting go of his ego. He's not talking about changing what made him the guy he is today. He's saying that the people that he hurt was a product of his ego and in order for things to heal between the people in his life he has to kill his ego and talk about it.

I'd understand if you said he lost it after Magna carter holy grail but 4:44 is a dope ass album.

Now to respond to Bish's point about OJ and Basquiat they said nowhere near the same thing. OJ was dismissing himself as a black man because he thought that the hardships and racism didn't apply to him. Basquiat said I'm not a Black artist I'm an artist. He's not saying he's not black, he knew he was black and it is represented in his art. As a Black artist people would use black as a qualifier to put a glass ceiling on his art. Him saying that he's an artist is saying is taking away that qualifier and saying whats good is good.

[Dr_Heat]

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[Mars]

Cutler should stay retired... Dolphins should grab Kaepernick.

[BadMofoPimp]

Cutler should stay retired... Dolphins should grab Kaepernick.

I agree but with the huge anti-castro cuban community down in Miami, they won't sign Kap. Regardless, I want to see what Moore can do with extended playing time. I think he could surprise people. Team just needs a good backup.

[Cmon_Son-_-]

Cutler should stay retired... Dolphins should grab Kaepernick.

I agree but with the huge anti-castro cuban community down in Miami, they won't sign Kap. Regardless, I want to see what Moore can do with extended playing time. I think he could surprise people. Team just needs a good backup.

Why only consider the Cuban community? If anything the Dolphins play in Miami Gardens which is the largest predominately black cities in the US behind Detroit they should consider that too. This whole Kaepernick Cuban thing is overstated he aint even praise Castro, the reporter baited him into saying something positive about him because he was already against Kaep in the first place.

[Mars]

Cutler should stay retired... Dolphins should grab Kaepernick.

I agree but with the huge anti-castro cuban community down in Miami, they won't sign Kap...

All Kaepernick needs to do is confess that he was truly unaware of the atrocities Castro committed on the people of Cuba (which Kaep clearly was), offer that he will become better informed of the history, then seek out pillars of the Cuban community for the purposes of education and guidance on the matter and he'll be fine.

[PizzaLord305]

Cutler should stay retired... Dolphins should grab Kaepernick.

I agree but with the huge anti-castro cuban community down in Miami, they won't sign Kap. Regardless, I want to see what Moore can do with extended playing time. I think he could surprise people. Team just needs a good backup.

Idk I don't think he fits our team at all. Our receivers would go to waste, and so would Julius Thomas. Ajayi is a good pass catcher out of the backfield. Kap is a pretty bad "passer" and has always been. We'd do much better just sticking with Matt Moore, who already knows the offense and has the playing style to give our weapons the best opportunity to do work. He's gonna throw some awful picks and take some pretty ridiculous sacks in big moments, but it's been than watching football games where Jarvis Landry finishes the game with 23 yards on 3 receptions, which is what would be in our future if kap was the qb.

[BadMofoPimp]

Cutler should stay retired... Dolphins should grab Kaepernick.

I agree but with the huge anti-castro cuban community down in Miami, they won't sign Kap. Regardless, I want to see what Moore can do with extended playing time. I think he could surprise people. Team just needs a good backup.

Why only consider the Cuban community? If anything the Dolphins play in Miami Gardens which is the largest predominately black cities in the US behind Detroit they should consider that too. This whole Kaepernick Cuban thing is overstated he aint even praise Castro, the reporter baited him into saying something positive about him because he was already against Kaep in the first place.

I think you underestimate the opower of negative publicity regardless how small the client base.

[BadMofoPimp]

Cutler should stay retired... Dolphins should grab Kaepernick.

I agree but with the huge anti-castro cuban community down in Miami, they won't sign Kap...

All Kaepernick needs to do is confess his ignorance (which he clearly was) on being truly aware of the atrocities Castro committed on the people of Cuba, offer an apology for not being better informed, then seek out pillars of the Cuban community for the purposes of education and guidance on the matter and he'll be fine.

Kap is not going to do that. He is clueless about what America has stood for and what Castro has done as a dictator.