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Josh Doctson, one of the Redskins' starting wide receivers and top performers in training camp so far, left practice early on Sunday afternoon with what was later disclosed to be a hamstring injury.
stevemcqueen1 wrote:The two things that stood out to me the most about Trent Williams's comments on Jonathan Allen were that he stressed repeatedly how fast a learner Allen is, and that he brought up how strong Allen already is. Those two things point to Allen being way ahead of the game for a rookie, and that there is a good chance he's our best DL this year. Interior DLs don't usually win the award, but I think he's a legit candidate for DROY.
I think it's worth noting how unusual it is for rookie defensive players to come in with NFL level strength. Alabama's probably running a pro-level S&C program and Allen is also special. Fully grown and has his man strength by 22.
One of my biggest pre-draft concerns about Allen when he was being projected as a top 3 pick was a lack of physical upside. He's on the small side for an NFL interior defensive lineman and his frame is maxed out. Probably not going to get much faster or stronger like most of the other young prospects and so I don't expect him to be able to grow into the most dominant player at his position. But I'm not sure it really matters if the execution is clean and he's ready to contribute at a high level from day one. Especially not when he's certainly a value pick at 17. Successful defense follows from clean execution on the LoS.
The FO has **** up the QB situation this offseason, to the point where I would probably fire Allen for this mess. But the interior of the defense should be so much better this year because of the new pieces.
stevemcqueen1 wrote:I kind of get the unwillingness to commit a huge dollar amount to Kirk because he's not one of the best QBs in the NFL and probably will never be. But they've already paying him that way on the tag and making it work. What I don't get is the unwillingness to commit to him long term. QB is not like any other position, what you're supposed to be looking for is a starter worth committing to long term. The alternative to standing on principle and not paying him is to have a highly functional passing game completely fall apart. And to lose the leadership at the position, which has a cascading negative effect on the entire team. It's so dumb. Allen is just wrong about this and if Kirk walks and we don't get a real replacement, he needs to be fired.
That said, I think we still have a shot at an extension with Kirk next offseason. This situation has been handled sooo poorly by the FO.
I hate the way Allen publicly blamed Kirk for the impasse. But we still offer Kirk the best on field situation by a country mile. The elements of our passing game are ideal and the depth chart for this part of the team is ridiculously loaded. Elite offensive tackles and good interior line protection. A panoply at receiver and tight end. A nice committee of backs including a quality third down option. And a coach that gets the QB position and knows his wheelhouse. He sure as **** is not going to have all of that anywhere else that might sign him. None of the other teams that have our level of talent at OT and WR/TE need QBs.
So I'm hoping that success cures all and we get something worked out with him next offseason. It would be such a god damn shame if the NFL's biggest spendthrift owner gets cheap at the worst possible time and we blow up the passing game and waste the careers of all of the talented OLs and pass catchers we've finally assembled.
Ruzious wrote:I thought Allen would have had at least a little more tact when he brought up the Skins offers to the media. He didn't have to word in a good guy/bad guy way. He should have emphasized that it was part of the negotiating process, and we're still enthusiastic about the chances to sign him long-term - make it into a positive rather than an overwhelming negative. Allen has set a text-book in poor negotiating strategies here, and isn't contract negotiating supposed to be his strong suit? He's just not a football guy. And the Cousins situation is likely going to be a distraction all season. If not for the distraction, the Skins have a playoffs roster, imo.
BearlyBallin wrote:/photo/1
The 1981 draft still makes me smile
1. Mark May, T, Pittsburgh
3. Russ Grimm, G, Pittsburgh
4. Tom Flick, QB, Washington
5. Dexter Manley, DE, Oklahoma State
5. Gary Sayre, G, Cameron
6. Larry Kubin, LB, Penn State
8. Charlie Brown, WR, South Carolina State
9. Darryl Grant, G, Rice
10. Phil Kessel, QB, Northern Michigan
10. Allan Kennedy, T, Washington State
11. Jerry Hill, WR, Northern Alabama
12. Clint Didier, TE, Portland State
Rd2 pick traded for Joe Washington, RB
UDFA signing Joe Jacoby, T, Louisville
BearlyBallin wrote:https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo
MikeGarafolo
After losing QB Nate Sudfeld to the Eagles, the Redskins are signing QB Alex Torgersen, who was with the Falcons in camp.
5:00 PM - Sep 3, 2017
Signed to PS.