Me7o Thread: Hoodie edition

[battabing10]

How do you continue to. It get it?

He wants to stay here because he loves NYC
He wants to stay here because his kid lives here, has a life here, goes to school here

He doesn't want to uproot his life because the team that committed to him has failed and changed its course.

He's not collecting a check.
And if he was there wouldn't be anything wrong with doing so

Quit the bs

That's all fine and good then. Were going to look at this from a perspective like this is a regular job. The reasoning sited here is not basketball related.

Assuming these are his priorities at this point, he should be cool to do what is asked of him by his employer correct?

He still gets to stay in the city he loves.

He doesn't have to uproot his child, or if that is not an option due to LALA he doesn't have to be away from his child.

If his child is the first priority, I certainly don't disagree with that.

But that goes out the window if he gets to play with his buddies in HOU?

IM calling BS

for starters you can't look at it like a regular job because its one in the public eye, celebrity based, and his "brand" is his person


But to us a "regular job" analogy were talking about a job where your employers told you they were building the company around you and gave you a contract of the kind that would keep you from going to a competitor. To sweeten the pot they told you they couldn't break the contract, only you could. and then after a couple years they started badmouthing you around town and talked about your flaws as a professional. then they decided to move you and your contract. But you didn't want to go. So you said no. then a couple of your friends joined up and a rival company and you said ok, thats one place I'm willing to go to. not that you want to go but you will allow that one destination.

sorry, but thats not unreasonable

its lame for us as fans because we want to move Melo to a place thats gonna benefit this team

but its not melos fault
its the teams fault. all day long.

be pissed at Jackson

ehhh... it can't be that simple because the ceo of the company brought you in on an impulse over the misgivings of a different management team. the core issue with the ceo is, although he has oodles of $$$, he has no clue or care as to price versus value, and this is easily glossed over because his product still makes $$$ for him. since that time the ceo has changed management teams at least twice, but the core flaw in the company history with you remains what they had been willing to give you with not much thought as to price versus value. and you yourself have only cared about your price with not much thought to your own value. you are a success in the former but the latter? best leave that alone, since that involves another type of success: winning.

all of which is fine...

until the latest management team brings this core issue to the forefront of their negotiations.

[jvsimonetti0514]

Yeah. OKC in particular would be pretty bomber with him given what they would likely have to give up. Maybe even better than Houston. Portland is a better city but probably not his cup of tea.

Westbrook might average 30 points and 20 assists for the season with Melo and George on the wing instead of scrubs like Oladipo and Jerami Grant. Westbrook wouldn't know what to do with all the spacing they'd provide.

Did you say Melo and spacing in the same sentence? When have you seen that on the Knicks?

No way westbrook lets melo play old man bully ball. Catch and shoot Melo is elite and is an infinitely better 3pt shooter than those guys.

[louieOrr]

How do you continue to. It get it?

He wants to stay here because he loves NYC
He wants to stay here because his kid lives here, has a life here, goes to school here

He doesn't want to uproot his life because the team that committed to him has failed and changed its course.

He's not collecting a check.
And if he was there wouldn't be anything wrong with doing so

Quit the bs

That's all fine and good then. Were going to look at this from a perspective like this is a regular job. The reasoning sited here is not basketball related.

Assuming these are his priorities at this point, he should be cool to do what is asked of him by his employer correct?

He still gets to stay in the city he loves.

He doesn't have to uproot his child, or if that is not an option due to LALA he doesn't have to be away from his child.

If his child is the first priority, I certainly don't disagree with that.

But that goes out the window if he gets to play with his buddies in HOU?

IM calling BS

for starters you can't look at it like a regular job because its one in the public eye, celebrity based, and his "brand" is his person


But to us a "regular job" analogy were talking about a job where your employers told you they were building the company around you and gave you a contract of the kind that would keep you from going to a competitor. To sweeten the pot they told you they couldn't break the contract, only you could. and then after a couple years they started badmouthing you around town and talked about your flaws as a professional. then they decided to move you and your contract. But you didn't want to go. So you said no. then a couple of your friends joined up and a rival company and you said ok, thats one place I'm willing to go to. not that you want to go but you will allow that one destination.

sorry, but thats not unreasonable

its lame for us as fans because we want to move Melo to a place thats gonna benefit this team

but its not melos fault
its the teams fault. all day long.

be pissed at Jackson

The regular job analogy comes because your original post sited non-basketball reasons as to why he wants to stay.

That's not a bad analogy you presented, but I think there are some things missing.

The company you mentioned above asked for a commitment to a certain way of doing things. The employee agreed, but did not follow through. All of this was somehow televised, so its not hearsay.

Reputation in most businesses is everything. Most fans had no problem when Phil called out JR and Shump publically.

Was the information about Melo untrue?

You also took out the relocation dynamic in your scenario. So that contracted employee doesn't want to leave the company, because he loves the city, and he doesn't want to uproot/spend time away from his child. If that's the case you wouldn't want to go to your friends startup company in Houston.


No one is playing the blame game, but lets not make him a Martyr either.

[Dr. Detfink]

I just want to know, late last season the shouting match between Melo and Hornacek...was that imagined?

From what I saw, no one respected Jeff so why would they respect him now?

If Melo plays his way, who's going to stand up to him? Jeff? Please, sit yo' white butt down. Wind Mills? Pulease. GM Howdy Doody? Get out of here!

[louieOrr]

That's all fine and good then. Were going to look at this from a perspective like this is a regular job. The reasoning sited here is not basketball related.

Assuming these are his priorities at this point, he should be cool to do what is asked of him by his employer correct?

He still gets to stay in the city he loves.

He doesn't have to uproot his child, or if that is not an option due to LALA he doesn't have to be away from his child.

If his child is the first priority, I certainly don't disagree with that.

But that goes out the window if he gets to play with his buddies in HOU?

IM calling BS

for starters you can't look at it like a regular job because its one in the public eye, celebrity based, and his "brand" is his person


But to us a "regular job" analogy were talking about a job where your employers told you they were building the company around you and gave you a contract of the kind that would keep you from going to a competitor. To sweeten the pot they told you they couldn't break the contract, only you could. and then after a couple years they started badmouthing you around town and talked about your flaws as a professional. then they decided to move you and your contract. But you didn't want to go. So you said no. then a couple of your friends joined up and a rival company and you said ok, thats one place I'm willing to go to. not that you want to go but you will allow that one destination.

sorry, but thats not unreasonable

its lame for us as fans because we want to move Melo to a place thats gonna benefit this team

but its not melos fault
its the teams fault. all day long.

be pissed at Jackson

Thank you!

Some fans get it and some simply don't.

Sorry you disagree.

I comprehend things pretty well. I get what he was trying to say.

I just think its BS. Just my opinion is all.

[louieOrr]

That's all fine and good then. Were going to look at this from a perspective like this is a regular job. The reasoning sited here is not basketball related.

Assuming these are his priorities at this point, he should be cool to do what is asked of him by his employer correct?

He still gets to stay in the city he loves.

He doesn't have to uproot his child, or if that is not an option due to LALA he doesn't have to be away from his child.

If his child is the first priority, I certainly don't disagree with that.

But that goes out the window if he gets to play with his buddies in HOU?

IM calling BS

for starters you can't look at it like a regular job because its one in the public eye, celebrity based, and his "brand" is his person


But to us a "regular job" analogy were talking about a job where your employers told you they were building the company around you and gave you a contract of the kind that would keep you from going to a competitor. To sweeten the pot they told you they couldn't break the contract, only you could. and then after a couple years they started badmouthing you around town and talked about your flaws as a professional. then they decided to move you and your contract. But you didn't want to go. So you said no. then a couple of your friends joined up and a rival company and you said ok, thats one place I'm willing to go to. not that you want to go but you will allow that one destination.

sorry, but thats not unreasonable

its lame for us as fans because we want to move Melo to a place thats gonna benefit this team

but its not melos fault
its the teams fault. all day long.

be pissed at Jackson

ehhh... it can't be that simple because the ceo of the company brought you in on an impulse over the misgivings of a different management team. the core issue with the ceo is, although he has oodles of $$$, he has no clue or care as to price versus value, and this is easily glossed over because his product still makes $$$ for him. since that time the ceo has changed management teams at least twice, but the core flaw in the company history with you remains what they had been willing to give you with not much thought as to price versus value. and you yourself have only cared about your price with not much thought to your own value. you are a success in the former but the latter? best leave that alone, since that involves another type of success: winning.

all of which is fine...

until the latest management team brings this core issue to the forefront of their negotiations.

Very well said.

Not sure how people don't understand this.

[battabing10]

for starters you can't look at it like a regular job because its one in the public eye, celebrity based, and his "brand" is his person


But to us a "regular job" analogy were talking about a job where your employers told you they were building the company around you and gave you a contract of the kind that would keep you from going to a competitor. To sweeten the pot they told you they couldn't break the contract, only you could. and then after a couple years they started badmouthing you around town and talked about your flaws as a professional. then they decided to move you and your contract. But you didn't want to go. So you said no. then a couple of your friends joined up and a rival company and you said ok, thats one place I'm willing to go to. not that you want to go but you will allow that one destination.

sorry, but thats not unreasonable

its lame for us as fans because we want to move Melo to a place thats gonna benefit this team

but its not melos fault
its the teams fault. all day long.

be pissed at Jackson

ehhh... it can't be that simple because the ceo of the company brought you in on an impulse over the misgivings of a different management team. the core issue with the ceo is, although he has oodles of $$$, he has no clue or care as to price versus value, and this is easily glossed over because his product still makes $$$ for him. since that time the ceo has changed management teams at least twice, but the core flaw in the company history with you remains what they had been willing to give you with not much thought as to price versus value. and you yourself have only cared about your price with not much thought to your own value. you are a success in the former but the latter? best leave that alone, since that involves another type of success: winning.

all of which is fine...

until the latest management team brings this core issue to the forefront of their negotiations.

Very well said.

Not sure how people don't understand this.

thank you. the knicks have a horrible, horrible owner who no matter how hard he tries just can't alienate the consumer base.

[louieOrr]

ehhh... it can't be that simple because the ceo of the company brought you in on an impulse over the misgivings of a different management team. the core issue with the ceo is, although he has oodles of $$$, he has no clue or care as to price versus value, and this is easily glossed over because his product still makes $$$ for him. since that time the ceo has changed management teams at least twice, but the core flaw in the company history with you remains what they had been willing to give you with not much thought as to price versus value. and you yourself have only cared about your price with not much thought to your own value. you are a success in the former but the latter? best leave that alone, since that involves another type of success: winning.

all of which is fine...

until the latest management team brings this core issue to the forefront of their negotiations.

Very well said.

Not sure how people don't understand this.

thank you. the knicks have a horrible, horrible owner who no matter how hard he tries just can't alienate the consumer base.

He's never held accountable where it counts for him. They are the most profitable team every year regardless of the product.

[BKlutch]

Westbrook might average 30 points and 20 assists for the season with Melo and George on the wing instead of scrubs like Oladipo and Jerami Grant. Westbrook wouldn't know what to do with all the spacing they'd provide.

Did you say Melo and spacing in the same sentence? When have you seen that on the Knicks?

No way westbrook lets melo play old man bully ball. Catch and shoot Melo is elite and is an infinitely better 3pt shooter than those guys.

Assuming Melo stays with the Knicks, where's the guy who we can get who makes Melo play like that?

[NoLayupRule]

for starters you can't look at it like a regular job because its one in the public eye, celebrity based, and his "brand" is his person


But to us a "regular job" analogy were talking about a job where your employers told you they were building the company around you and gave you a contract of the kind that would keep you from going to a competitor. To sweeten the pot they told you they couldn't break the contract, only you could. and then after a couple years they started badmouthing you around town and talked about your flaws as a professional. then they decided to move you and your contract. But you didn't want to go. So you said no. then a couple of your friends joined up and a rival company and you said ok, thats one place I'm willing to go to. not that you want to go but you will allow that one destination.

sorry, but thats not unreasonable

its lame for us as fans because we want to move Melo to a place thats gonna benefit this team

but its not melos fault
its the teams fault. all day long.

be pissed at Jackson

ehhh... it can't be that simple because the ceo of the company brought you in on an impulse over the misgivings of a different management team. the core issue with the ceo is, although he has oodles of $$$, he has no clue or care as to price versus value, and this is easily glossed over because his product still makes $$$ for him. since that time the ceo has changed management teams at least twice, but the core flaw in the company history with you remains what they had been willing to give you with not much thought as to price versus value. and you yourself have only cared about your price with not much thought to your own value. you are a success in the former but the latter? best leave that alone, since that involves another type of success: winning.

all of which is fine...

until the latest management team brings this core issue to the forefront of their negotiations.

Very well said.

Not sure how people don't understand this.

You're seriously trying to drag this back to Walsh and the original trade?

Come on

This is a NTC issue

[Dr. Detfink]

I don't question the Knicks trade for Melo but clearly there was no game plan beyond, "Well he's Melo. Free agents will take a pay cut and line up to come to New York to play with him." Um, not exactly.

And that's where the Knicks front office FAILED Melo.

Not just Walsh. EVERYONE top to bottom.

[NoLayupRule]

That's all fine and good then. Were going to look at this from a perspective like this is a regular job. The reasoning sited here is not basketball related.

Assuming these are his priorities at this point, he should be cool to do what is asked of him by his employer correct?

He still gets to stay in the city he loves.

He doesn't have to uproot his child, or if that is not an option due to LALA he doesn't have to be away from his child.

If his child is the first priority, I certainly don't disagree with that.

But that goes out the window if he gets to play with his buddies in HOU?

IM calling BS

for starters you can't look at it like a regular job because its one in the public eye, celebrity based, and his "brand" is his person


But to us a "regular job" analogy were talking about a job where your employers told you they were building the company around you and gave you a contract of the kind that would keep you from going to a competitor. To sweeten the pot they told you they couldn't break the contract, only you could. and then after a couple years they started badmouthing you around town and talked about your flaws as a professional. then they decided to move you and your contract. But you didn't want to go. So you said no. then a couple of your friends joined up and a rival company and you said ok, thats one place I'm willing to go to. not that you want to go but you will allow that one destination.

sorry, but thats not unreasonable

its lame for us as fans because we want to move Melo to a place thats gonna benefit this team

but its not melos fault
its the teams fault. all day long.

be pissed at Jackson

The regular job analogy comes because your original post sited non-basketball reasons as to why he wants to stay.

That's not a bad analogy you presented, but I think there are some things missing.

The company you mentioned above asked for a commitment to a certain way of doing things. The employee agreed, but did not follow through. All of this was somehow televised, so its not hearsay.

Reputation in most businesses is everything. Most fans had no problem when Phil called out JR and Shump publically.

Was the information about Melo untrue?

You also took out the relocation dynamic in your scenario. So that contracted employee doesn't want to leave the company, because he loves the city, and he doesn't want to uproot/spend time away from his child. If that's the case you wouldn't want to go to your friends startup company in Houston.


No one is playing the blame game, but lets not make him a Martyr either.

Here's the issue I have with that

When he was a fa we begged him to stay.
What was it, 6 salary options we offered him?
He wanted to go somewhere where he could win. Specifically Chicago.
And Ny begged him to stay.

Stay and we will build around you
Stay and we will give you a NTC
Stay and you can win scoring titles and we will develop a championship team

So he stayed

And then the plan fell apart. Multiple times.

He didn't become another type of player or lose his ability. The team never successfully built around him. We got guys like bargnani and Calderon and the like.

So he took the option as a free agent to take somewhat less, have player options and have a NTC on the off chance that the team might turn over its manegment and not follow through on its promises

Which is what we've always done

So imo melo is protecting his interests against a team, owner and manegment who's only consistent characteristic is a propensity towards sudden desperate bind change.

I'd like to see melo waive his ntc and get traded to some crap team like NO where we can get value back. But I don't blame him for not doing it. I blame this franchise for giving him all the control over the option of trading him

Now we have to play the game as if melo and every other player is equal and the only thing that matters is style of play and development. Which might mean melo sits 30mins a night. So be it. Lots of teams are paying players to sit. Hell, he can sit next to Noah

[NoLayupRule]

I don't question the Knicks trade for Melo but clearly there was no game plan beyond, "Well he's Melo. Free agents will take a pay cut and line up to come to New York to play with him." Um, not exactly.

And that's where the Knicks front office FAILED Melo.

Not just Walsh. EVERYONE top to bottom.

Yep
Exactly

And melo deserves blame for some of the team's performance certainly.
But the Ntc is self inflicted and the team that's been around melo - a different one every year often with a new coach - has been out of his hands

[vallen]

I don't question the Knicks trade for Melo but clearly there was no game plan beyond, "Well he's Melo. Free agents will take a pay cut and line up to come to New York to play with him." Um, not exactly.

And that's where the Knicks front office FAILED Melo.

Not just Walsh. EVERYONE top to bottom.

Amare, Chandler, Kidd, the Rook. with a Dantoni system. They were supposed to dominate the east and compete with the big 3. That was the plan, it just didnt work. But on paper everyone fell for it.

[NoLayupRule]

I don't question the Knicks trade for Melo but clearly there was no game plan beyond, "Well he's Melo. Free agents will take a pay cut and line up to come to New York to play with him." Um, not exactly.

And that's where the Knicks front office FAILED Melo.

Not just Walsh. EVERYONE top to bottom.

Amare, Chandler, Kidd, the Rook. with a Dantoni system. They were supposed to dominate the east and compete with the big 3. That was the plan, it just didnt work. But on paper everyone fell for it.

Kidd played here one season, under Woodson, and we won 54 games
We lost to a very strong Indy team with a melo injury courteously of a dirty kg play

It wasn't falling for anything
It was a good team

But the problem comes with the entire team turning over year after year

1 more year and woodson is gone. Chandler too. Smith,shump, etc

Let's not be falsely revisionist

[battabing10]

ehhh... it can't be that simple because the ceo of the company brought you in on an impulse over the misgivings of a different management team. the core issue with the ceo is, although he has oodles of $$$, he has no clue or care as to price versus value, and this is easily glossed over because his product still makes $$$ for him. since that time the ceo has changed management teams at least twice, but the core flaw in the company history with you remains what they had been willing to give you with not much thought as to price versus value. and you yourself have only cared about your price with not much thought to your own value. you are a success in the former but the latter? best leave that alone, since that involves another type of success: winning.

all of which is fine...

until the latest management team brings this core issue to the forefront of their negotiations.

Very well said.

Not sure how people don't understand this.

You're seriously trying to drag this back to Walsh and the original trade?

Come on

This is a NTC issue

it's a dolan/melo issue-- always has been. only difference is now it looks like dolan has seen enough.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1952947-flawed-ny-knicks-still-paying-dearly-for-carmelo-anthonys-original-sin

Watch on YouTube

look at the 20-minute mark and the expression on mills and perry's faces.

[louieOrr]

for starters you can't look at it like a regular job because its one in the public eye, celebrity based, and his "brand" is his person


But to us a "regular job" analogy were talking about a job where your employers told you they were building the company around you and gave you a contract of the kind that would keep you from going to a competitor. To sweeten the pot they told you they couldn't break the contract, only you could. and then after a couple years they started badmouthing you around town and talked about your flaws as a professional. then they decided to move you and your contract. But you didn't want to go. So you said no. then a couple of your friends joined up and a rival company and you said ok, thats one place I'm willing to go to. not that you want to go but you will allow that one destination.

sorry, but thats not unreasonable

its lame for us as fans because we want to move Melo to a place thats gonna benefit this team

but its not melos fault
its the teams fault. all day long.

be pissed at Jackson

The regular job analogy comes because your original post sited non-basketball reasons as to why he wants to stay.

That's not a bad analogy you presented, but I think there are some things missing.

The company you mentioned above asked for a commitment to a certain way of doing things. The employee agreed, but did not follow through. All of this was somehow televised, so its not hearsay.

Reputation in most businesses is everything. Most fans had no problem when Phil called out JR and Shump publically.

Was the information about Melo untrue?

You also took out the relocation dynamic in your scenario. So that contracted employee doesn't want to leave the company, because he loves the city, and he doesn't want to uproot/spend time away from his child. If that's the case you wouldn't want to go to your friends startup company in Houston.


No one is playing the blame game, but lets not make him a Martyr either.

Here's the issue I have with that

When he was a fa we begged him to stay.
What was it, 6 salary options we offered him?
He wanted to go somewhere where he could win. Specifically Chicago.
And Ny begged him to stay.

Stay and we will build around you
Stay and we will give you a NTC
Stay and you can win scoring titles and we will develop a championship team

So he stayed

And then the plan fell apart. Multiple times.

He didn't become another type of player or lose his ability. The team never successfully built around him. We got guys like bargnani and Calderon and the like.

So he took the option as a free agent to take somewhat less, have player options and have a NTC on the off chance that the team might turn over its manegment and not follow through on its promises

Which is what we've always done

So imo melo is protecting his interests against a team, owner and manegment who's only consistent characteristic is a propensity towards sudden desperate bind change.

I'd like to see melo waive his ntc and get traded to some crap team like NO where we can get value back. But I don't blame him for not doing it. I blame this franchise for giving him all the control over the option of trading him

Now we have to play the game as if melo and every other player is equal and the only thing that matters is style of play and development. Which might mean melo sits 30mins a night. So be it. Lots of teams are paying players to sit. Hell, he can sit next to Noah

Some fair points for sure. But lets not Pin Bargs on Phil

I'm just saying if staying in NY and his son were a priority, then there would be no other option that would be acceptable for him in theory at this point in time.

Phil tried to rebuild, put pieces around Carmelo and change the culture all at the same time. Phil definitely failed at building around Carmelo, but still didn't have a ton of options.

No one is saying Melo should just waive his NTC to go to a crap team. At least I never did.

Nor is there anything wrong with him protecting his interests. But what exactly are they?

If he wants to stay then great, he needs to do what is asked of him.

If he doesn't want to stay, and he wants to use that NTC to serve his interests as it pertains to winning, then that's fine too. He isn't protecting those interests if he's only willing to accept a trade to Houston, because he cant be traded there at our expense.

[BKlutch]

I don't question the Knicks trade for Melo but clearly there was no game plan beyond, "Well he's Melo. Free agents will take a pay cut and line up to come to New York to play with him." Um, not exactly.

And that's where the Knicks front office FAILED Melo.

Not just Walsh. EVERYONE top to bottom.

Amare, Chandler, Kidd, the Rook. with a Dantoni system. They were supposed to dominate the east and compete with the big 3. That was the plan, it just didnt work. But on paper everyone fell for it.

Kidd played here one season, under Woodson, and we won 54 games
We lost to a very strong Indy team with a melo injury courteously of a dirty kg play

It wasn't falling for anything
It was a good team

But the problem comes with the entire team turning over year after year

1 more year and woodson is gone. Chandler too. Smith,shump, etc

Let's not be falsely revisionist

Some of that turnover was physical - that team was not designed to last. Too many parts wearing out. And with our unstable management, turnover was even worse. It still hasn't gotten better, unless Scott really changes things as of now.

[Greenie]

That's all fine and good then. Were going to look at this from a perspective like this is a regular job. The reasoning sited here is not basketball related.

Assuming these are his priorities at this point, he should be cool to do what is asked of him by his employer correct?

He still gets to stay in the city he loves.

He doesn't have to uproot his child, or if that is not an option due to LALA he doesn't have to be away from his child.

If his child is the first priority, I certainly don't disagree with that.

But that goes out the window if he gets to play with his buddies in HOU?

IM calling BS

for starters you can't look at it like a regular job because its one in the public eye, celebrity based, and his "brand" is his person


But to us a "regular job" analogy were talking about a job where your employers told you they were building the company around you and gave you a contract of the kind that would keep you from going to a competitor. To sweeten the pot they told you they couldn't break the contract, only you could. and then after a couple years they started badmouthing you around town and talked about your flaws as a professional. then they decided to move you and your contract. But you didn't want to go. So you said no. then a couple of your friends joined up and a rival company and you said ok, thats one place I'm willing to go to. not that you want to go but you will allow that one destination.

sorry, but thats not unreasonable

its lame for us as fans because we want to move Melo to a place thats gonna benefit this team

but its not melos fault
its the teams fault. all day long.

be pissed at Jackson

The regular job analogy comes because your original post sited non-basketball reasons as to why he wants to stay.

That's not a bad analogy you presented, but I think there are some things missing.

The company you mentioned above asked for a commitment to a certain way of doing things. The employee agreed, but did not follow through. All of this was somehow televised, so its not hearsay.

Reputation in most businesses is everything. Most fans had no problem when Phil called out JR and Shump publically.

Was the information about Melo untrue?

You also took out the relocation dynamic in your scenario. So that contracted employee doesn't want to leave the company, because he loves the city, and he doesn't want to uproot/spend time away from his child. If that's the case you wouldn't want to go to your friends startup company in Houston.


No one is playing the blame game, but lets not make him a Martyr either.

What didn't Melo follow through on?
He's an offensive player. That's his bread and butter. He performed. We didn't have enough to win with him.


It would be like getting mad a Ben Wallace for being **** on offense after handling him a max contract

[blueNorange]

melo hasn't performed well enough the past 3 seasons