The Legend of Joel Embiid

[Mrcrockpots]

Hate to say this, but I was incredibly excited for Monday until BC spoke. The second he spoke, I instantly remembered all the pain I went through from all his lying and parseltongue all last season. Please BC. Stay away from the mic for once.

[europeanfan]

Unless he is willing to give us a discount there is zero reason to extend him right now

Agree. The onus is on Joel now to prove he is fit over a long period and take that risk of breaking down again before signing a big deal or accept the discounted rate now for security for the rest of his life.

He will no doubt get bigger offers thrown at him, but if he took them it would say a lot about him... and I don't think he is that sort of person.

If the Sixers don't offer a max and another team offers a max and the Sixers don't match and Embiid leaves that doesn't show anything about him except that HE'S A SMART MAN. I would go to the highest bidder too and so would just about 99% of players. This stuff about loyalty is dumb. No one is loyal like that. You have to look out for yourself and considering Embiid has a shaky injury history it would be imperative to get the most money he can get in case he breaks down. People assume the Sixers are in the best spot and have the most leverage. I disagree. I think Embiid has the most leverage. There are teams out there who would offer Embiid the max even if he only plays 31 games again. Embiid knows he's a generational talent. The Sixers are much better with him than without him. The Sixers should be trying to lock up Embiid right now. If the Sixers wait until after the season and see what another team may offer and will match any offer then cool. But under no circumstances should the Sixers not match any offer if they wait, even if it's a max. If the Sixers let Embiid walk because they don't want to match an offer I would be very angry. We need to keep Embiid by any means necessary.

Or trade him now.

The Sixers don't need him to be good, they have 2 number 1 picks on rookie deals, very similar to Minnesotta. If they get something nice for Embiid they can trade for a 3rd star one way or another down the line.

On the other hand nightmare scenario : Embiid get a 5 years max (covering entirely Simmons and Fultz rookie contracts) and he doesn't play much if at all. Then it turns into an Anthony Davis situation where you basically give Simmons and Fultz zero reason to stay in your franchise.

Embiid has the best ceiling but he has also the lowest floor of any option, his floor is Chandler Parsons, a guy taking max money to post on social media full time.

[bedjawII]

Agree. The onus is on Joel now to prove he is fit over a long period and take that risk of breaking down again before signing a big deal or accept the discounted rate now for security for the rest of his life.

He will no doubt get bigger offers thrown at him, but if he took them it would say a lot about him... and I don't think he is that sort of person.

If the Sixers don't offer a max and another team offers a max and the Sixers don't match and Embiid leaves that doesn't show anything about him except that HE'S A SMART MAN. I would go to the highest bidder too and so would just about 99% of players. This stuff about loyalty is dumb. No one is loyal like that. You have to look out for yourself and considering Embiid has a shaky injury history it would be imperative to get the most money he can get in case he breaks down. People assume the Sixers are in the best spot and have the most leverage. I disagree. I think Embiid has the most leverage. There are teams out there who would offer Embiid the max even if he only plays 31 games again. Embiid knows he's a generational talent. The Sixers are much better with him than without him. The Sixers should be trying to lock up Embiid right now. If the Sixers wait until after the season and see what another team may offer and will match any offer then cool. But under no circumstances should the Sixers not match any offer if they wait, even if it's a max. If the Sixers let Embiid walk because they don't want to match an offer I would be very angry. We need to keep Embiid by any means necessary.

Or trade him now.

The Sixers don't need him to be good, they have 2 number 1 picks on rookie deals, very similar to Minnesotta. If they get something nice for Embiid they can trade for a 3rd star one way or another down the line.

On the other hand nightmare scenario : Embiid get a 5 years max (covering entirely Simmons and Fultz rookie contracts) and he doesn't play much if at all. Then it turns into an Anthony Davis situation where you basically give Simmons and Fultz zero reason to stay in your franchise.

Embiid has the best ceiling but he has also the lowest floor of any option, his floor is Chandler Parsons, a guy taking max money to post on social media full time.

How is this anything like AD's situation? What does a JoJo max have to do with BS or MF leaving in a few years?

[Baller1234a]

If the Sixers don't offer a max and another team offers a max and the Sixers don't match and Embiid leaves that doesn't show anything about him except that HE'S A SMART MAN. I would go to the highest bidder too and so would just about 99% of players. This stuff about loyalty is dumb. No one is loyal like that. You have to look out for yourself and considering Embiid has a shaky injury history it would be imperative to get the most money he can get in case he breaks down. People assume the Sixers are in the best spot and have the most leverage. I disagree. I think Embiid has the most leverage. There are teams out there who would offer Embiid the max even if he only plays 31 games again. Embiid knows he's a generational talent. The Sixers are much better with him than without him. The Sixers should be trying to lock up Embiid right now. If the Sixers wait until after the season and see what another team may offer and will match any offer then cool. But under no circumstances should the Sixers not match any offer if they wait, even if it's a max. If the Sixers let Embiid walk because they don't want to match an offer I would be very angry. We need to keep Embiid by any means necessary.

Or trade him now.

The Sixers don't need him to be good, they have 2 number 1 picks on rookie deals, very similar to Minnesotta. If they get something nice for Embiid they can trade for a 3rd star one way or another down the line.

On the other hand nightmare scenario : Embiid get a 5 years max (covering entirely Simmons and Fultz rookie contracts) and he doesn't play much if at all. Then it turns into an Anthony Davis situation where you basically give Simmons and Fultz zero reason to stay in your franchise.

Embiid has the best ceiling but he has also the lowest floor of any option, his floor is Chandler Parsons, a guy taking max money to post on social media full time.

How is this anything like AD's situation? What does a JoJo max have to do with BS or MF leaving in a few years?

Because you have Covington at around 20 mill Embieed at 30 mill ish then you gotta max BS at 30 then MF at 30 which means 110 mill for 4 players and 1 who can't even play the you have to pay guys like Saric and Holmes or let them walk and have a bunch of scrubs on your bench and in the end of a half a decade of tanking you get 2 all stars (MF and BS) and 1 Solid starter which is a treadmill team

[LloydFree]

Or trade him now.

The Sixers don't need him to be good, they have 2 number 1 picks on rookie deals, very similar to Minnesotta. If they get something nice for Embiid they can trade for a 3rd star one way or another down the line.

On the other hand nightmare scenario : Embiid get a 5 years max (covering entirely Simmons and Fultz rookie contracts) and he doesn't play much if at all. Then it turns into an Anthony Davis situation where you basically give Simmons and Fultz zero reason to stay in your franchise.

Embiid has the best ceiling but he has also the lowest floor of any option, his floor is Chandler Parsons, a guy taking max money to post on social media full time.

How is this anything like AD's situation? What does a JoJo max have to do with BS or MF leaving in a few years?

Because you have Covington at around 20 mill Embieed at 30 mill ish then you gotta max BS at 30 then MF at 30 which means 110 mill for 4 players and 1 who can't even play the you have to pay guys like Saric and Holmes or let them walk and have a bunch of scrubs on your bench and in the end of a half a decade of tanking you get 2 all stars (MF and BS) and 1 Solid starter which is a treadmill team

Be serious. The 76ers don't have to pay Ben Simmons for another 3-4 years. Fultz for 5 years. Lol. Covington and Embiid could be retired by the time Fultz gets paid.

[Unbreakable99]

All I’m saying is I’m willing to give Embiid whatever he asks or another team offers whether that’s by October 16th or after the season. I’m not letting him go. I would start low and try to get a Steph Curry type contract. If Embiid balks and wants to wait until the season then I’m good with that.

If Embiid plays a full season I’m giving him the max.
If Embiid doesn’t play a full season and another team offers more than I would have then I will match.

There’s nothing that will stop me from paying Embiid to stay here.

Let me ask all of you a question. If Embiid has the same exact dominating season like he did last year and he still only plays 31 games and then gets nicked up and another team offers him the max would you be willing to not match? Are you willing to risk not paying Embiid the max? Lie and say you would let Embiid walk and risk playing against him for the next decade. I’m not taking that chance. I’m living and dying with Embiid. If we are on the titanic then so be it. But if we are on a carrier then great.

[Sixersftw]

Let me ask all of you a question. If Embiid has the same exact dominating season like he did last year and he still only plays 31 games and then gets nicked up and another team offers him the max would you be willing to not match? Are you willing to risk not paying Embiid the max? Lie and say you would let Embiid walk and risk playing against him for the next decade. I’m not taking that chance. I’m living and dying with Embiid. If we are on the titanic then so be it. But if we are on a carrier then great.

Depends on the "nick." If it's the foot then you have to make a serious decision and I lean towards probably not matching. Anything else outside of a catastrophic injury and I'm going down with the ship.

[Rastas]

All I’m saying is I’m willing to give Embiid whatever he asks or another team offers whether that’s by October 16th or after the season. I’m not letting him go. I would start low and try to get a Steph Curry type contract. If Embiid balks and wants to wait until the season then I’m good with that.

If Embiid plays a full season I’m giving him the max.
If Embiid doesn’t play a full season and another team offers more than I would have then I will match.

There’s nothing that will stop me from paying Embiid to stay here.

Let me ask all of you a question. If Embiid has the same exact dominating season like he did last year and he still only plays 31 games and then gets nicked up and another team offers him the max would you be willing to not match? Are you willing to risk not paying Embiid the max? Lie and say you would let Embiid walk and risk playing against him for the next decade. I’m not taking that chance. I’m living and dying with Embiid. If we are on the titanic then so be it. But if we are on a carrier then great.

It will come down to the new doc's recommendation for me , let's all just prey he can keep his injurys to a minimum.

[Ericb5]

Joel Embiid = The Franchise

I'm sticking with him unless he has stress fractures in his feet that forces retirement.

[Tony Franciosa]

Is it the team’s responsibility to hand out info of our player’s health? Dont they have the right to keep it to themselves? It’s not a government.

The only time it pissed me off was with Bynum and I felt like they were being intentionally vague with him to sell more tickets early in the season. It came off really shady and it made me distrustful of them since... when people are shelling out thousands of dollars on season tix with the expectation that they'll be seeing certain players, management needs to be a bit transparent about expectations and timing.

[steveb21]

If we just let Embiid walk then what was the point of The Process? I think they'll do everything they can to keep him here.

[Chris76]

All I’m saying is I’m willing to give Embiid whatever he asks or another team offers whether that’s by October 16th or after the season. I’m not letting him go. I would start low and try to get a Steph Curry type contract. If Embiid balks and wants to wait until the season then I’m good with that.

If Embiid plays a full season I’m giving him the max.
If Embiid doesn’t play a full season and another team offers more than I would have then I will match.

There’s nothing that will stop me from paying Embiid to stay here.

Let me ask all of you a question. If Embiid has the same exact dominating season like he did last year and he still only plays 31 games and then gets nicked up and another team offers him the max would you be willing to not match? Are you willing to risk not paying Embiid the max? Lie and say you would let Embiid walk and risk playing against him for the next decade. I’m not taking that chance. I’m living and dying with Embiid. If we are on the titanic then so be it. But if we are on a carrier then great.

Embiid could have a very good year. Maybe achieve some goals that could increase his max.

I would give him the max now, in a year, it could look like a discount if he plays well. He is worth the gamble.

[Sixerscan]

Is it the team’s responsibility to hand out info of our player’s health? Dont they have the right to keep it to themselves? It’s not a government.

No one is saying they should go to jail for not disclosing this information.

The issue is that there are industry standards for disclosing information. They are withholding beyond those standards. And, more annoyingly, Colangelo is acting like he's disclosing information when really he's just rambling until his time expires.

They can do whatever they want. And we can be annoyed by the decisions they make.

[BullyKing]

All I’m saying is I’m willing to give Embiid whatever he asks or another team offers whether that’s by October 16th or after the season. I’m not letting him go. I would start low and try to get a Steph Curry type contract. If Embiid balks and wants to wait until the season then I’m good with that.

If Embiid plays a full season I’m giving him the max.
If Embiid doesn’t play a full season and another team offers more than I would have then I will match.

There’s nothing that will stop me from paying Embiid to stay here.

Let me ask all of you a question. If Embiid has the same exact dominating season like he did last year and he still only plays 31 games and then gets nicked up and another team offers him the max would you be willing to not match? Are you willing to risk not paying Embiid the max? Lie and say you would let Embiid walk and risk playing against him for the next decade. I’m not taking that chance. I’m living and dying with Embiid. If we are on the titanic then so be it. But if we are on a carrier then great.

Embiid could have a very good year. Maybe achieve some goals that could increase his max.

I would give him the max now, in a year, it could look like a discount if he plays well. He is worth the gamble.

If you're giving him the max, that same "discount" will be available next year. Literally no reason to do so now other than if you want to light some cap space for next offseason on fire.

[Chris76]

All I’m saying is I’m willing to give Embiid whatever he asks or another team offers whether that’s by October 16th or after the season. I’m not letting him go. I would start low and try to get a Steph Curry type contract. If Embiid balks and wants to wait until the season then I’m good with that.

If Embiid plays a full season I’m giving him the max.
If Embiid doesn’t play a full season and another team offers more than I would have then I will match.

There’s nothing that will stop me from paying Embiid to stay here.

Let me ask all of you a question. If Embiid has the same exact dominating season like he did last year and he still only plays 31 games and then gets nicked up and another team offers him the max would you be willing to not match? Are you willing to risk not paying Embiid the max? Lie and say you would let Embiid walk and risk playing against him for the next decade. I’m not taking that chance. I’m living and dying with Embiid. If we are on the titanic then so be it. But if we are on a carrier then great.

Embiid could have a very good year. Maybe achieve some goals that could increase his max.

I would give him the max now, in a year, it could look like a discount if he plays well. He is worth the gamble.

If you're giving him the max, that same "discount" will be available next year. Literally no reason to do so now other than if you want to light some cap space for next offseason on fire.

I wasn't sure if the max could change. If Embiid gets MVP in the finals, wouldn't the max go up?

[76ciology]

.. could also explain why we overpaid for pasecniks

[Mik317]

This is my negadelphian talking but yeah...Bryan and Brett dancing around answering questions tells me something is up...that and the But how about Simmons doe stuff.

PicnicBaskets Future gaiz

;_;

[BullyKing]

Embiid could have a very good year. Maybe achieve some goals that could increase his max.

I would give him the max now, in a year, it could look like a discount if he plays well. He is worth the gamble.

If you're giving him the max, that same "discount" will be available next year. Literally no reason to do so now other than if you want to light some cap space for next offseason on fire.

I wasn't sure if the max could change. If Embiid gets MVP in the finals, wouldn't the max go up?

I refuse to believe that even you think this is a realistic possibility.

[Chris76]

If you're giving him the max, that same "discount" will be available next year. Literally no reason to do so now other than if you want to light some cap space for next offseason on fire.

I wasn't sure if the max could change. If Embiid gets MVP in the finals, wouldn't the max go up?

I refuse to believe that even you think this is a realistic possibility.

Maybe in a couple of years, but he could make the all star team this year or defensive player of the year, which may increase his max.

[Kirk Van Houten]

I wasn't sure if the max could change. If Embiid gets MVP in the finals, wouldn't the max go up?

I refuse to believe that even you think this is a realistic possibility.

Maybe in a couple of years, but he could make the all star team this year or defensive player of the year, which may increase his max.

There is no way Embiid is getting the max. 30 games in 3 years and yet to be cleared for 5-5. At this point in time Slim Jah has more value.


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