Carmelo Anthony to OKC for Enes Kanter, Doug McDermott and a draft pick

Balkman32 · Post #101 » by **Balkman32** » Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:00 pm

Pillendreher wrote:Let's be real: The best chance any team has is a torn ACL for Curry or any other injury that keeps him out of the Playoffs. Otherwise, we would need a miracle.

I disagree. There will be chances to beat the Warriors. The Thunder just needs to figure out the correct path.

Post #102 » by **bondom34** » Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:08 pm

Nobody's beating them. But the race for 2nd is fun.

Pillendreher · Post #103 » by **Pillendreher** » Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:53 pm

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Post #104 » by **ThunderBolt** » Mon Sep 25, 2017 7:45 pm

We still have the pieces to make an additional move if the opportunity Presents itself

Jstock12 · Post #105 » by **Jstock12** » Mon Sep 25, 2017 7:52 pm

I actually think Melo will love coming back to a smaller market for a change, with less media and where fans are nicer.

Balkman32 · Post #106 » by **Balkman32** » Mon Sep 25, 2017 8:18 pm

Knrstz wrote:We still have the pieces to make an additional move if the opportunity Presents itself

What Piece? Singler? Huestis? Christin? 2022 First?

Post #107 » by **bondom34** » Mon Sep 25, 2017 8:19 pm

And after this offseason I never want to hear a peep about Presti.

Post #108 » by **ThunderBolt** » Mon Sep 25, 2017 8:22 pm

Balkman32 wrote:
Knrstz wrote:We still have the pieces to make an additional move if the opportunity Presents itself

What Piece? Singler? Huestis? Christin? 2022 First?

Abrines, Adams or Ferguson.

Pillendreher · Post #109 » by **Pillendreher** » Mon Sep 25, 2017 8:26 pm

bondom34 wrote:And after this offseason I never want to hear a peep about Presti.

Meh. Doesn't mean he wasn't trash after the Harden trade. The urgency he's displaying now is what was needed when Durant was still here.

Instead he traded for Dion Waiters, Enes Kanter and Randy Foye in Durant's last season.

Rotten Apple · Post #110 » by **Rotten Apple** » Mon Sep 25, 2017 8:30 pm

bondom34 wrote:Nobody's beating them. But the race for 2nd is fun.

I'll say this. No one was beating the 73 win Warriors either but you guys were up 3-1 and ultimately folded then Cleveland did the unthinkable.

Kawhi had the Spurs up 23 on the road in Game 1, the Cavs simply needed another guy to either step offensively or contain one of Curry or Durant.

You guys have almost everything, one more piece is probably necessary but that may also be on the roster. It will be really interesting once they all gel and actually reach their potential.

Post #111 » by **Andre Roberstan** » Mon Sep 25, 2017 8:41 pm

Balkman32 wrote:
Knrstz wrote:We still have the pieces to make an additional move if the opportunity Presents itself

What Piece? Singler? Huestis? Christin? 2022 First?

Y'all are really talking like we didn't just hold up two teams at gunpoint.

Be prepared, put the offers on the table, and capitalize when the opportunity presents itself.

Post #112 » by **bondom34** » Mon Sep 25, 2017 8:45 pm

Pillendreher wrote:
bondom34 wrote:And after this offseason I never want to hear a peep about Presti.

Meh. Doesn't mean he wasn't trash after the Harden trade. The urgency he's displaying now is what was needed when Durant was still here.

Instead he traded for Dion Waiters, Enes Kanter and Randy Foyez in Durant's last season.

Urgency like Horford. Yeah.

Hes always been good. The takes on DT have always been drivel. I had to legit argue he was better than GarPax not a year ago.

Pillendreher · Post #113 » by **Pillendreher** » Mon Sep 25, 2017 8:53 pm

bondom34 wrote:
Pillendreher wrote:
bondom34 wrote:And after this offseason I never want to hear a peep about Presti.

Meh. Doesn't mean he wasn't trash after the Harden trade. The urgency he's displaying now is what was needed when Durant was still here.

Instead he traded for Dion Waiters, Enes Kanter and Randy Foyez in Durant's last season.

Urgency like Horford. Yeah.

Yes. His last hail mary to convince Durant to stay.

bondom34 wrote:Hes always been good.

He was bad after the Harden trade. Failed to build around Westbrook-Durant-Ibaka. Did not make moves contenders would make.

Post #114 » by **bondom34** » Mon Sep 25, 2017 8:57 pm

Pillendreher wrote:
bondom34 wrote:
Pillendreher wrote:
Meh. Doesn't mean he wasn't trash after the Harden trade. The urgency he's displaying now is what was needed when Durant was still here.

Instead he traded for Dion Waiters, Enes Kanter and Randy Foyez in Durant's last season.

Urgency like Horford. Yeah.

Yes. His last hail mary to convince Durant to stay.

bondom34 wrote:Hes always been good.

He was bad after the Harden trade. Failed to build around Westbrook-Durant-Ibaka. Did not make moves contenders would make.

Kinda did. ould have won if they werw ever...ya know...healthy. Go to other team subs and ask if they'd take Presti.

Post #115 » by **slick_watts** » Mon Sep 25, 2017 8:58 pm

bondom34 wrote:And after this offseason I never want to hear a peep about Presti.

it took 10 years but he finally figured out his cultural imperatives and pretend process are meaningless in the face of free agency being a thing.

Post #116 » by **slick_watts** » Mon Sep 25, 2017 8:59 pm

Andre Roberstan wrote:
Balkman32 wrote:
Knrstz wrote:We still have the pieces to make an additional move if the opportunity Presents itself

What Piece? Singler? Huestis? Christin? 2022 First?

Y'all are really talking like we didn't just hold up two teams at gunpoint.

Be prepared, put the offers on the table, and capitalize when the opportunity presents itself.

paul george was one thing, but i don't think carmelo would have ever been a sam presti target at any price in years past.

Post #117 » by **bondom34** » Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:04 pm

slick_watts wrote:
bondom34 wrote:And after this offseason I never want to hear a peep about Presti.

it took 10 years but he finally figured out his cultural imperatives and pretend process are meaningless in the face of free agency being a thing.

I see you stand by your brainwashed ideas.

Post #118 » by **Andre Roberstan** » Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:06 pm

slick_watts wrote:
Andre Roberstan wrote:
Balkman32 wrote:
What Piece? Singler? Huestis? Christin? 2022 First?

Y'all are really talking like we didn't just hold up two teams at gunpoint.

Be prepared, put the offers on the table, and capitalize when the opportunity presents itself.

paul george was one thing, but i don't think carmelo would have ever been a sam presti target at any price in years past.

There was a rumor when things first started to break down in New York, and I think Weaver's been recruiting him since before that.

Pillendreher · Post #119 » by **Pillendreher** » Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:12 pm

bondom34 wrote:Kinda did.

No, he really did not. What kind of moves did Presti make since 2012 that pointed to really going all in? Hint: His best free agent signing was Anthony Morrow and the most notable players he traded for were Enes Kanter and Dion Waiters.

bondom34 wrote:ould have won if they werw ever...ya know...healthy. Go to other team subs and ask if they'd take Presti.

Yes, they could have. But that's because the core got better over the years, not the cast around it. Presti not once really went for it. Instead he either went with way past their prime vets (Fisher, Butler) or tried to get cute with getting bad players to turn them into good players. Little hint: It didn't work once. Not once.

Instead of maximizing what you have and go for it, Presti wanted to have his cake and eat it as well. He wanted to win it all, but he also wanted to get help by means which hindered the goal to a title. You can't say 'Let's win it all' and also go 'Let's get trash players and hope they'll turn out better in a couple of years'. You can't be a contender and also a D-League development team at the same time.

His approach towards Waiters and Kanter isn't bad per se. But you do that with guys who don't play big roles. You could trade for Stanley Johnson and see if you could turn him into a decent player. But no contender in their right mind would do that and give him the 4th most minutes per game. That's just not how it's done.

EDIT: Look at the Taj GIbson trade. That's exactly the kind of trade that would have helped us get past vs the Warriors. What did Presti do? He traded for a completely washed up Randy Foye.

And yes, I possibly would have been shocked because I really, really iked Payne. But that's something a contender does. Fix a weakness and improve the team.

Post #120 » by **slick_watts** » Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:28 pm

Andre Roberstan wrote:
slick_watts wrote:
Andre Roberstan wrote:
Y'all are really talking like we didn't just hold up two teams at gunpoint.

Be prepared, put the offers on the table, and capitalize when the opportunity presents itself.

paul george was one thing, but i don't think carmelo would have ever been a sam presti target at any price in years past.

There was a rumor when things first started to break down in New York, and I think Weaver's been recruiting him since before that.

oh, i buy that. life began to move fast for sam and the org. since kd left. there's a loss of innocence type of vibe coming from sam, even, the last year or so. i like it.