Around the league 2017-2018

spikeslovechild · Post #641 » by **spikeslovechild** » Fri Oct 6, 2017 4:06 pm

CoreyGallagher wrote:
Unbreakable99 wrote:Kuzma may wind up being the best player in this draft. I don’t think what he’s showing is fake. His shooting is real.

Even if you believe it, use some discretion, man. Lol.

I mean Holmes had some major scoring games last year. Players get hot. Heck, I remember when Mike James got hot a whole season for the Raptors.

He's going to have to show more for a longer period of time before I get excited.

Post #642 » by **Sixerscan** » Fri Oct 6, 2017 5:45 pm

spikeslovechild wrote:
CoreyGallagher wrote:
Unbreakable99 wrote:Kuzma may wind up being the best player in this draft. I don’t think what he’s showing is fake. His shooting is real.

Even if you believe it, use some discretion, man. Lol.

I mean Holmes had some major scoring games last year. Players get hot. Heck, I remember when Mike James got hot a whole season for the Raptors.

He's going to have to show more for a longer period of time before I get excited.

Flip Murray was the best player in the NBA for the first few weeks in 2003.

Mrcrockpots · Post #643 » by **Mrcrockpots** » Fri Oct 6, 2017 8:30 pm

spikeslovechild wrote:
Ericb5 wrote:
Mrcrockpots wrote:
If it does then it does. I'm done worrying about those picks. Now, if its January and Embiid is having an injury plagued season, then I'm all in.

I’ve convinced myself that the Lakers are going to be better than a bottom 5 team. Now I’ll take getting the 6th pick, but if it looks like we are going to get the 10th pick then I would rather take my chances with the Kings pick.

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I'm not convinced of that at all.

Trading away Lou Williams and Russell hurts them.

They really have two guards at this point Ball and Clarkson where it used to be a strength. I see them having problems scoring next year and their defense has gotten worse.

The Lakers will easily have the worst defense in the league. They are locked in as a bottom 5 team.

spikeslovechild · Post #644 » by **spikeslovechild** » Sat Oct 7, 2017 3:07 am

Even Jason Kidd thinks Ball shot is broken

http://www.slamonline.com/nba/jason-kidd-lonzo-ball-change-shot/

Kidd: “Yeah, I think you got to try to fix it because there’s going to be times when the defense is going to sit on it.

76ciology · Post #645 » by **76ciology** » Sat Oct 7, 2017 7:25 am

spikeslovechild wrote:Even Jason Kidd thinks Ball shot is broken

http://www.slamonline.com/nba/jason-kidd-lonzo-ball-change-shot/

Kidd: “Yeah, I think you got to try to fix it because there’s going to be times when the defense is going to sit on it.

What I notice is he needs space to pull it ofd. Those shooting deep 3s in college and taking step back 3s in NBA.

Consider that shooting in the NBA has a different dynamics than college because of the length of NBA defense, thus Sauce and Reddick struggled shooting early on.

spikeslovechild · Post #646 » by **spikeslovechild** » Sat Oct 7, 2017 4:25 pm

Exum should just retire clearly god wants him to do something else with his life

AdotSmoove · Post #647 » by **AdotSmoove** » Sun Oct 8, 2017 5:31 am

spikeslovechild wrote:Exum should just retire clearly god wants him to do something else with his life

It's really quite a shame. I always found his game enjoyable to watch. Though it's not as big of a shame as Greg Oden. Being denied the pleasure of watching years worth of Oden highlights is truly an act of the devil or God is a terrible player scout.

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Eyeamok · Post #648 » by **Eyeamok** » Sun Oct 8, 2017 5:49 am

AdotSmoove wrote:
spikeslovechild wrote:Exum should just retire clearly god wants him to do something else with his life

It's really quite a shame. I always found his game enjoyable to watch. Though it's not as big of a shame as Greg Oden. Being denied the pleasure of watching years worth of Oden highlights is truly an act of the devil or God is a terrible player scout.

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What's crazy is that 3 out of the top 5 in that 2014 draft have had 2 major injuries that have forced them to miss significant parts of different seasons. And the guy that was picked #1, most people believe he is not worth the money he is about to get.

LordCovington33 · Post #649 » by **LordCovington33** » Sun Oct 8, 2017 3:23 pm

Eyeamok wrote:
AdotSmoove wrote:
spikeslovechild wrote:Exum should just retire clearly god wants him to do something else with his life

It's really quite a shame. I always found his game enjoyable to watch. Though it's not as big of a shame as Greg Oden. Being denied the pleasure of watching years worth of Oden highlights is truly an act of the devil or God is a terrible player scout.

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What's crazy is that 3 out of the top 5 in that 2014 draft have had 2 major injuries that have forced them to miss significant parts of different seasons. And the guy that was picked #1, most people believe he is not worth the money he is about to get.

Okafor for Exum? I think Exum is finished, but we have little to lose.

Kobblehead · Post #650 » by **Kobblehead** » Sun Oct 8, 2017 3:57 pm

Not to pile on the injured player, but Exum doesn't do anything for me. He's basically just a penetrating specialist that can't distribute, can't shoot and plays sub-par defense (despite reputation).

If we're going to exchange Okafor for a similarly disappointing prospect, I'd rather it be for a guy with better "theoretic" ability (Hezonja or Mudiay).

the_process · Post #651 » by **the_process** » Sun Oct 8, 2017 11:09 pm

No need to trade anything for Exum, if you throw a even a 4-24 offer sheet at him there’s no way Utah matches. Which BC should consider doing, even though Exum might be cooked.

Ericb5 · Post #652 » by **Ericb5** » Mon Oct 9, 2017 1:26 am

I really liked Exum as a prospect, but he is still just a prospect. It’s a real pity what has happened injury wise with him because he hasn’t had enough time to get his feet under him.

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LordCovington33 · Post #653 » by **LordCovington33** » Mon Oct 9, 2017 4:01 am

Ingram looks like hot garbage out there tonight.

Wilfried · Post #654 » by **Wilfried** » Mon Oct 9, 2017 6:37 am

simmbiid wrote:Ingram looks like hot garbage out there tonight.

I know it's very early, but I should start to be concerned a bit, about Ingram, if I were a Lakers' fan.

Rastas · Post #655 » by **Rastas** » Mon Oct 9, 2017 7:41 am

[quote="Ericb5"]I really liked Exum as a prospect, but he is still just a prospect. It’s a real pity what has happened injury wise with him because he hasn’t had enough time to get his feet under him.

Look on the bright side - he will now more than likely take the QO and be a 23yo UFA in 2019 8-)

LordCovington33 · Post #656 » by **LordCovington33** » Mon Oct 9, 2017 8:47 am

Wilfried wrote:
simmbiid wrote:Ingram looks like hot garbage out there tonight.

I know it's very early, but I should start to be concerned a bit, about Ingram, if I were a Lakers' fan.

He is playing too much iso and his jump shot is failing him. He doesn't look athletic out there. Kuzma looks good though.

Kobblehead · Post #657 » by **Kobblehead** » Mon Oct 9, 2017 12:57 pm

Being physically weak and having sub-par athleticism is a really bad combination.

Ericb5 · Post #658 » by **Ericb5** » Mon Oct 9, 2017 1:05 pm

Wilfried wrote:
simmbiid wrote:Ingram looks like hot garbage out there tonight.

I know it's very early, but I should start to be concerned a bit, about Ingram, if I were a Lakers' fan.

I think that Ingram will be fine in the long Run if he can physically get stronger. Playing with Ball is going to help him a lot so I expect him to have a better year this year than last year, but he is still just too weak to be a star.

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TTP · Post #659 » by **TTP** » Mon Oct 9, 2017 1:18 pm

Wilfried wrote:
simmbiid wrote:Ingram looks like hot garbage out there tonight.

I know it's very early, but I should start to be concerned a bit, about Ingram, if I were a Lakers' fan.

Start? Probably should have started last year when he was one of the worst players in the league. It's a major red flag for a player when the one skill that was expected to translate from college, shooting, doesn't.

snoopdogg88 · Post #660 » by **snoopdogg88** » Mon Oct 9, 2017 2:21 pm

It cannot be overstated how massive it was to get the #1 pick in 2016

The difference between Simmons and Ingram is just...