OKC Thunder Offseason: Avengers Assemble

[Old Man Game]

Anyone have the net rating of our starters handy through the first few preseason games? I don't know but it feels like we're sort of a disjointed bunch out there right now.

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stats.nba.com doesn't track lineup data for the preseason.

Bummer.

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[Old Man Game]

How has Huestis been with the organization this long and never gotten a chance to contribute?

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For real though. I've never seen a player who does something positive seemingly every time he gets into a game and who still never gets minutes when it matters.

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[RalphSampsonJr]

This game was a great example
Of offense struggling against good D.
Melo and PG scored what a combine 40 points yet had no positive effect on the game.
Robes and Adams on the other hand did the dirty work.
Josh may have scored a few minutes with that performance

[getrichordie]

How has Huestis been with the organization this long and never gotten a chance to contribute?

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Hell if I know. I still don't understand why we gave Singler minutes over Huestis last season. It's really **** up especially when you think about how we spent a 1st round pick on him AND we wanted to see how the first ever domestic draft and stash would turn out and then we never give him minutes. Makes sense, right?

I've long lobbied for Huestis to get play at the 3 and some 4. I really wouldn't mind if we traded Grant for a back up big and just let Huestis eat up Grant's minutes at the 3.

[M2J]

This game was a great example
Of offense struggling against good D.
Melo and PG scored what a combine 40 points yet had no positive effect on the game.
Robes and Adams on the other hand did the dirty work.
Josh may have scored a few minutes with that performance

Adams and Roberson do well in games such as this... scrappy defensive battles. I think the Big 3 played scrappy too, and that +/- stat is misleading, as if those didn't generate points in a tough defensive game. Everyone would've been just negative.

[RalphSampsonJr]

This game was a great example
Of offense struggling against good D.
Melo and PG scored what a combine 40 points yet had no positive effect on the game.
Robes and Adams on the other hand did the dirty work.
Josh may have scored a few minutes with that performance

Adams and Roberson do well in games such as this... scrappy defensive battles. I think the Big 3 played scrappy too, and that +/- stat is misleading, as if those didn't generate points in a tough defensive game. Everyone would've been just negative.

This is what I am afraid of though.
Egos taking over and underestimating a team and just chucking up shots.
Its all good to score 20 but not when it comes from 31 or 29%
Its guys like Robes, Adams and Huetis that do the dirty work that help win these types of games.
The starters underestimated this team and it showed

[bondom34]

I don't like much of what I've seen from Melo at all. I don't totally agree on defense beating offense but it's not a Roberson/Adams thing, they played fine. The offense flows worse with Melo than anything.

[spearsy23]

Is there any timetable for when Alex and Patterson are supposed to be ready?

[RalphSampsonJr]

I don't like much of what I've seen from Melo at all. I don't totally agree on defense beating offense but it's not a Roberson/Adams thing, they played fine. The offense flows worse with Melo than anything.

I just don't like seeing guys chucking up shots with hands in their face.
I don't care if yourve been an all star for 13 years. If your ego is making you play like that it's not what this team needs. I was concerned with Melos attitude when he got traded to this team and I feel this game kinda showed me why I show be

[RalphSampsonJr]

Should be*

[bondom34]

I don't like much of what I've seen from Melo at all. I don't totally agree on defense beating offense but it's not a Roberson/Adams thing, they played fine. The offense flows worse with Melo than anything.

I just don't like seeing guys chucking up shots with hands in their face.
I don't care if yourve been an all star for 13 years. If your ego is making you play like that it's not what this team needs. I was concerned with Melos attitude when he got traded to this team and I feel this game kinda showed me why I show be

I don't really think it's attitude so much as habits and lack of any system to buy into. Donovan's offense is just "go do stuff" so adding another guy who does his own thing doesn't really add anything but another weapon. I like the idea of him running with the bench more and more, might have been wrong on that early on

[RalphSampsonJr]

I don't like much of what I've seen from Melo at all. I don't totally agree on defense beating offense but it's not a Roberson/Adams thing, they played fine. The offense flows worse with Melo than anything.

I just don't like seeing guys chucking up shots with hands in their face.
I don't care if yourve been an all star for 13 years. If your ego is making you play like that it's not what this team needs. I was concerned with Melos attitude when he got traded to this team and I feel this game kinda showed me why I show be

I don't really think it's attitude so much as habits and lack of any system to buy into. Donovan's offense is just "go do stuff" so adding another guy who does his own thing doesn't really add anything but another weapon. I like the idea of him running with the bench more and more, might have been wrong on that early on

We can blame Billy all we want but it's the players that are making those final decisions on the court.
The thunder showed how easy it is to come into a game with the wrong attitude and get punished for it.
Having three all stars doesn't mean **** if they are gona come into games with that mindset

[spearsy23]

It was a preseason game against am Australian team, expecting them to come in any other way is laughable.

[bondom34]

I just don't like seeing guys chucking up shots with hands in their face.
I don't care if yourve been an all star for 13 years. If your ego is making you play like that it's not what this team needs. I was concerned with Melos attitude when he got traded to this team and I feel this game kinda showed me why I show be

I don't really think it's attitude so much as habits and lack of any system to buy into. Donovan's offense is just "go do stuff" so adding another guy who does his own thing doesn't really add anything but another weapon. I like the idea of him running with the bench more and more, might have been wrong on that early on

We can blame Billy all we want but it's the players that are making those final decisions on the court.
The thunder showed how easy it is to come into a game with the wrong attitude and get punished for it.
Having three all stars doesn't mean **** if they are gona come into games with that mindset

Thats part of his job too, it was a meaningless game score wise so that doesn't bother me, but every game I've seen Melo has done the same

[slick_watts]

i prefer the opposite. i like any play with melo and rw doing a pnr or pnp. an open three for melo is a great shot in the half court. i thought george has appeared the odd man out with the threesome out there.

i want melo tethered to westbrook. i'm more comfortable with george staggering with the bench.

there's been some 'take turns' isolating but it's really come when the sets have broken (which, admittedly, has been often). with the three of them in the game i don't see a reason to do much more than pnr's repeatedly.

[Old Man Game]

I don't like much of what I've seen from Melo at all. I don't totally agree on defense beating offense but it's not a Roberson/Adams thing, they played fine. The offense flows worse with Melo than anything.

I feel the same way. I'm starting to get the Suspicion we may have what amounts to a feast or famine offense. When one or more of our big three have it really working we'll probably be pretty good but nights those guys are settling for contested 20 Footers and they aren't falling it could be pretty ugly.

I think we're seeing why Vegas didn't really move us up all that much higher even with the acquisition of Melo in terms of odds win the title.

[Rotten Apple]

I don't like much of what I've seen from Melo at all. I don't totally agree on defense beating offense but it's not a Roberson/Adams thing, they played fine. The offense flows worse with Melo than anything.

I just don't like seeing guys chucking up shots with hands in their face.
I don't care if yourve been an all star for 13 years. If your ego is making you play like that it's not what this team needs. I was concerned with Melos attitude when he got traded to this team and I feel this game kinda showed me why I show be

How did him missing shots say anything about his attitude?

He took good shots, they just didn't fall. Westbrook and George shot poorly as well.

[getrichordie]

i prefer the opposite. i like any play with melo and rw doing a pnr or pnp. an open three for melo is a great shot in the half court. i thought george has appeared the odd man out with the threesome out there.

i want melo tethered to westbrook. i'm more comfortable with george staggering with the bench.

there's been some 'take turns' isolating but it's really come when the sets have broken (which, admittedly, has been often). with the three of them in the game i don't see a reason to do much more than pnr's repeatedly.

I agree. I want George running the second unit, not Melo for the simple reason that George is the better ball handler and passer and he brings better perimeter defense. Also, more likely Melo is gone next year, not George, in my opinion.

Anywho, I wanted to take a page out of a thread on the T&T board.

What three players are most likely to get traded this year? I picked:

1. Grant
2. Singler
3. Ferguson

What say you?

[Dn4sty]

i prefer the opposite. i like any play with melo and rw doing a pnr or pnp. an open three for melo is a great shot in the half court. i thought george has appeared the odd man out with the threesome out there.

i want melo tethered to westbrook. i'm more comfortable with george staggering with the bench.

there's been some 'take turns' isolating but it's really come when the sets have broken (which, admittedly, has been often). with the three of them in the game i don't see a reason to do much more than pnr's repeatedly.

I agree. I want George running the second unit, not Melo for the simple reason that George is the better ball handler and passer and he brings better perimeter defense. Also, more likely Melo is gone next year, not George, in my opinion.

Anywho, I wanted to take a page out of a thread on the T&T board.

What three players are most likely to get traded this year? I picked:

1. Grant
2. Singler
3. Ferguson

What say you?

Even though I don’t want it to happen, I wouldn’t be shocked to see Roberson moved. SG is the one position on the team with young talent (Abrines/Ferguson) that could make Roberson expendable.

[getrichordie]

i prefer the opposite. i like any play with melo and rw doing a pnr or pnp. an open three for melo is a great shot in the half court. i thought george has appeared the odd man out with the threesome out there.

i want melo tethered to westbrook. i'm more comfortable with george staggering with the bench.

there's been some 'take turns' isolating but it's really come when the sets have broken (which, admittedly, has been often). with the three of them in the game i don't see a reason to do much more than pnr's repeatedly.

I agree. I want George running the second unit, not Melo for the simple reason that George is the better ball handler and passer and he brings better perimeter defense. Also, more likely Melo is gone next year, not George, in my opinion.

Anywho, I wanted to take a page out of a thread on the T&T board.

What three players are most likely to get traded this year? I picked:

1. Grant
2. Singler
3. Ferguson

What say you?

Even though I don’t want it to happen, I wouldn’t be shocked to see Roberson moved. SG is the one position on the team with young talent (Abrines/Ferguson) that could make Roberson expendable.

Is there a market for Roberson though? Who would want him? I would think you would have to attach more value to get off his contract.