2017/2018 NBA Trade/Wishing Well Thread (Cont.)

[dakomish23]

A target I hope the FO has in mind is Noel. I think he's gone no matter what this summer.

Him next to KP puts us in a good position to grow into a top defensive team. He can guard out on the perimeter and he can defend the rim.

The issues are

A. He's due for a big contract this summer
B. He has to be the roll guy because he can't shoot at all outside of 3 feet.

I assume they'd want WHG back in any deal. If there was a way we could dump Kanter instead (IE take on Powell in the deal), that would be my preference.

If we could land him & keep WHG, then we'd have our big man rotation set for the foreseeable future. Any combination of the 3 can play together.

Frank Baker
THJ
Dotson MCD
Noel
KP WHG

This guy and KP protecting the rim? With Frank and Dotson hounding guys on the perimeter? Could be a really good defense.

Watch on YouTube

[NYG]

The problem with Noel is we wouldn’t have his bird rights or the cap space to pay him what he wants.

[NYG]

A target I hope the FO has in mind is Noel. I think he's gone no matter what this summer.

Him next to KP puts us in a good position to grow into a top defensive team. He can guard out on the perimeter and he can defend the rim.

The issues are

A. He's due for a big contract this summer
B. He has to be the roll guy because he can't shoot at all outside of 3 feet.

I assume they'd want WHG back in any deal. If there was a way we could dump Kanter instead (IE take on Powell in the deal), that would be my preference.

If we could land him & keep WHG, then we'd have our big man rotation set for the foreseeable future. Any combination of the 3 can play together.

Frank Baker
THJ
Dotson MCD
Noel
KP WHG

This guy and KP protecting the rim? With Frank and Dotson hounding guys on the perimeter? Could be a really good defense.

Watch on YouTube

We would need to show MAX space before Noel would agree and the deal would likely be Hernangomez and McDermott, I’d rather keep things as is.

[dakomish23]

A target I hope the FO has in mind is Noel. I think he's gone no matter what this summer.

Him next to KP puts us in a good position to grow into a top defensive team. He can guard out on the perimeter and he can defend the rim.

The issues are

A. He's due for a big contract this summer
B. He has to be the roll guy because he can't shoot at all outside of 3 feet.

I assume they'd want WHG back in any deal. If there was a way we could dump Kanter instead (IE take on Powell in the deal), that would be my preference.

If we could land him & keep WHG, then we'd have our big man rotation set for the foreseeable future. Any combination of the 3 can play together.

Frank Baker
THJ
Dotson MCD
Noel
KP WHG

This guy and KP protecting the rim? With Frank and Dotson hounding guys on the perimeter? Could be a really good defense.

Watch on YouTube

We would need to show MAX space before Noel would agree and the deal would likely be Hernangomez and McDermott, I’d rather keep things as is.

This a future thinking move. So if we'd have to get max space and trade those guys, we should just sign him in FA.

Btw I don't think anyone is giving him max space. He'll be lucky to get 4/75 in this environment.

[NYG]

This guy and KP protecting the rim? With Frank and Dotson hounding guys on the perimeter? Could be a really good defense.

Watch on YouTube

We would need to show MAX space before Noel would agree and the deal would likely be Hernangomez and McDermott, I’d rather keep things as is.

This a future thinking move. So if we'd have to get max space and trade those guys, we should just sign him in FA.

Btw I don't think anyone is giving him max space. He'll be lucky to get 4/75 in this environment.

He would have to agree to a trade and waive his bird rights in the process, though. I meant from his perspective, he wouldn't agree to a trade that sends him to a team that couldn't give him a MAX contract.

[dakomish23]

We would need to show MAX space before Noel would agree and the deal would likely be Hernangomez and McDermott, I’d rather keep things as is.

This a future thinking move. So if we'd have to get max space and trade those guys, we should just sign him in FA.

Btw I don't think anyone is giving him max space. He'll be lucky to get 4/75 in this environment.

He would have to agree to a trade and waive his bird rights in the process, though. I meant from his perspective, he wouldn't agree to a trade that sends him to a team that couldn't give him a MAX contract.

I'm agreeing with you on that point. So since you need to get the max space first, you might as well just wait till FA than to trade assets for him

[NYG]

This a future thinking move. So if we'd have to get max space and trade those guys, we should just sign him in FA.

Btw I don't think anyone is giving him max space. He'll be lucky to get 4/75 in this environment.

He would have to agree to a trade and waive his bird rights in the process, though. I meant from his perspective, he wouldn't agree to a trade that sends him to a team that couldn't give him a MAX contract.

I'm agreeing with you on that point. So since you need to get the max space first, you might as well just wait till FA than to trade assets for him

Ahhh, gotcha gotcha.. yeah he would certainly be a great 2018 free agency target.

[seren]

What we need to do is forget about cap space and free agency for the next three years. Use every resource possible to get youth and picks. Call Lakers and trade Kanter for Deng and a first rounder or two second rounders. Shaves a year of Deng's contract for them. Or try to get Randle in that deal if they don't want to give picks. Build Washington's bench for them. OQuinn, LFT for Mahinmi and first rounder. Things like that where we give cheap veterans that we don't really need for bad contracts and picks/young players.

[dakomish23]

What we need to do is forget about cap space and free agency for the next three years. Use every resource possible to get youth and picks. Call Lakers and trade Kanter for Deng and a first rounder or two second rounders. Shaves a year of Deng's contract for them. Or try to get Randle in that deal if they don't want to give picks. Build Washington's bench for them. OQuinn, LFT for Mahinmi and first rounder. Things like that where we give cheap veterans that we don't really need for bad contracts and picks/young players.

Trust me I'm with you on asset acquisition. I was pissed when we used our cap space on THJ instead of being a dumping ground like ATL & BKN did.

A Noel signing lines up with our timeline and can drastically effect a defense that needs an anchor.

Frank
Dotson THJ
Doncic
Noel
KP WHG

That's a great core

[dakomish23]

He would have to agree to a trade and waive his bird rights in the process, though. I meant from his perspective, he wouldn't agree to a trade that sends him to a team that couldn't give him a MAX contract.

I'm agreeing with you on that point. So since you need to get the max space first, you might as well just wait till FA than to trade assets for him

Ahhh, gotcha gotcha.. yeah he would certainly be a great 2018 free agency target.

Would be my only big target. Fits the bill on one of our major needs. I don't see any true big name coming here for a while anyway

[spree2kawhi]

Hardaway for Noel.

[8516knicks]

Need to do a real signature KNICKS move to make a statement - Hardaway for Carmello Anthony!

[TankCommander17]

What we need to do is forget about cap space and free agency for the next three years. Use every resource possible to get youth and picks. Call Lakers and trade Kanter for Deng and a first rounder or two second rounders. Shaves a year of Deng's contract for them. Or try to get Randle in that deal if they don't want to give picks. Build Washington's bench for them. OQuinn, LFT for Mahinmi and first rounder. Things like that where we give cheap veterans that we don't really need for bad contracts and picks/young players.

Trust me I'm with you on asset acquisition. I was pissed when we used our cap space on THJ instead of being a dumping ground like ATL & BKN did.

A Noel signing lines up with our timeline and can drastically effect a defense that needs an anchor.

Frank
Dotson THJ
Doncic
Noel
KP WHG

That's a great core

Noel is overrated. He is trying this year because its a contract year. If Cuban doesn't want to pay you it means you suck. And he doesn't want to pay Noel. Hard pass.

[TankCommander17]

What we need to do is forget about cap space and free agency for the next three years. Use every resource possible to get youth and picks. Call Lakers and trade Kanter for Deng and a first rounder or two second rounders. Shaves a year of Deng's contract for them. Or try to get Randle in that deal if they don't want to give picks. Build Washington's bench for them. OQuinn, LFT for Mahinmi and first rounder. Things like that where we give cheap veterans that we don't really need for bad contracts and picks/young players.

This is on point.

[dakomish23]

What we need to do is forget about cap space and free agency for the next three years. Use every resource possible to get youth and picks. Call Lakers and trade Kanter for Deng and a first rounder or two second rounders. Shaves a year of Deng's contract for them. Or try to get Randle in that deal if they don't want to give picks. Build Washington's bench for them. OQuinn, LFT for Mahinmi and first rounder. Things like that where we give cheap veterans that we don't really need for bad contracts and picks/young players.

Trust me I'm with you on asset acquisition. I was pissed when we used our cap space on THJ instead of being a dumping ground like ATL & BKN did.

A Noel signing lines up with our timeline and can drastically effect a defense that needs an anchor.

Frank
Dotson THJ
Doncic
Noel
KP WHG

That's a great core

Noel is overrated. He is trying this year because its a contract year. If Cuban doesn't want to pay you it means you suck. And he doesn't want to pay Noel. Hard pass.

That's ridiculous. Noel is far overrated if you know what he can do. He can be a lynchpin for your defense. If you want him to be AD, yeah, you'll be disappointed. But as a guy who's active in the passing lanes, can guard guys in the post as well as guard guys on the perimeter, go up to get lobs off the PnR and is a decent passer, he'd be a great fit next to KP.

Noel wanted near max money. Cuban wouldn't give him the max. That's why they are where they are.

Firm buy.

[lloydj]

The Knicks need a starting Point Guard:

Portland: C.J. McCollum or Damian Lillard?

[chs234]

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I Dont wanna be here

I would trade for Bledsoe, and his value has decreased now that he wants a trade out.

[Zooropa]

How do we get Bledsoe? He just hurt his value a ton, so start with Willie, Lee, the Bulls' 2nd, and probably Kyle as givens, and then add from there. Don't think we're close with that package...

[Knickerbock]

Why has KJ McDaniels never stuck with a team and received consistent minutes?

When I was watching him when he was on the Sixers... he had a good three ball, insane jumping ability, and played decent defense.

[RHODEY]

Howe about Eric Bledsoe for KOQ and CLEE? Why we do it? We need better guard play and we have too many centers. Why does phoenix? They would benefit from the vet leadership and Eric wants out.