All Things Luka Doncic

[Johnny Firpo]

Wow, that is an amazing quote, thanks man! So apart from verticality, he is a good athlete, pretty much in-line with what we see. It's so obvious that some of the posters in this thread are biased against him solely because he is a European player.

[kayath]

Wow, that is an amazing quote, thanks man! So apart from verticality, he is a good athlete, pretty much in-line with what we see. It's so obvious that some of the posters in this thread are biased against him solely because he is a European player.

Mostly because there was no player like Doncic from Europe before, meaning a big floor general type of player at such young age.
When was the last time in Nba Draft that European white guard projected so high? Let me just answer for you. It didn't happen before.

He still doesn't seem having muscle tone yet like other older players have so there he can improve a lot.
Sometimes people say that he is slow, that he looks slow on tape, but my opinion is that when he dribbles the ball he i constantly looking, probing for pass thinking what is the best next move to make so he slows down a bit because of it not doing things at 100% of his speed. If that makes any sense.
If you watch whole games you can see that he is fine athletically he is pushing around 10 year older players. I'm not saying he will be jumping out of the gym when he comes to the NBA, but he will be ok if not better then average.

[Johnny Firpo]

Verticality is likely the most overrated athletic trait for a perimeter player anyway, or even a big man. If you are extremely skilled (Nash, Jokic, Dirk, Bird, just to name the upper echelon players with little to no verticality), you can easily get around that problem. This is especially true in the pace and space era, where skill triumphs over athleticism (the best thing is still to have both, of course).

[SportsGuy8]

Yeah, everyone keeps forgetting that it's still possible to be one of the best in the league without being a freakish athlete, even as a perimeter player. It's somewhat understandable, though, mostly because over the past decade or so several perimeter players with somewhat questionable athleticism ended up being major disappointments, for example several former NCAA stars.

The ones that end up being true stars without elite athleticism are really unicorns and people simply have a hard time believing Doncic is one of those unicorns.

He IS, though. And those who at least somewhat follow European basketball have an easier time grasping that, knowing how special what Doncic is doing right now really is.

[reanimator]

Uncontested No. 1 draft pick.

and we have been reading here, that Doncic 3pts % is not good enough. no way Fultz can have even 25% shooting for 3, with that kind of shot. if he's smart enough he won't even try it. and we can see that kind of double standard all day long. Doncic should do everything with 18 years and others will learn.

edit: I looked to the stats, Fultz is smart enough.

You do realize that Fultz has never been a good free throw shooter while shooting great percentages from the 3 pt line or are you just dumb? Do you recognize that he is injured or does the injury excuse only work for Doncic?

The funny thing is Fultz has gotten into the paint at will....something Doncic will be lucky to do at the NBA level.

[Bob8]

Uncontested No. 1 draft pick.

and we have been reading here, that Doncic 3pts % is not good enough. no way Fultz can have even 25% shooting for 3, with that kind of shot. if he's smart enough he won't even try it. and we can see that kind of double standard all day long. Doncic should do everything with 18 years and others will learn.

edit: I looked to the stats, Fultz is smart enough.

You do realize that Fultz has never been a good free throw shooter while shooting great percentages from the 3 pt line or are you just dumb? Do you recognize that he is injured or does the injury excuse only work for Doncic?

The funny thing is Fultz has gotten into the paint at will....something Doncic will be lucky to do at the NBA level.

In Nba injured players are playing 20+ minutes?

Fultz is just scared like a little kid. He doesn’t even try long range shots. One thing is playing with kids, with no pressure for the result, having decent numbers and mostly loosing. And other in Nba with great expectations, because you’re No. 1 pick. I know he was awful FT shooter in college too. And 3 points shooting, name 1 good 3 point shooter in Nba who is shooting 60% FTs, like Fultz was shooting in school without pressure. With pressure 50% with this technique looks pretty realistic. That’s just show how absurd was for him to be uncontested No.1 pick. Doncic will have 200+ professional games played under his belt when he will come in Nba and no problems with pressure whatsoever. Real must win every game, that doesn’t exist even in Nba.

[reanimator]

Uncontested No. 1 draft pick.

and we have been reading here, that Doncic 3pts % is not good enough. no way Fultz can have even 25% shooting for 3, with that kind of shot. if he's smart enough he won't even try it. and we can see that kind of double standard all day long. Doncic should do everything with 18 years and others will learn.

edit: I looked to the stats, Fultz is smart enough.

You do realize that Fultz has never been a good free throw shooter while shooting great percentages from the 3 pt line or are you just dumb? Do you recognize that he is injured or does the injury excuse only work for Doncic?

The funny thing is Fultz has gotten into the paint at will....something Doncic will be lucky to do at the NBA level.

In Nba injured players are playing 20+ minutes?

Fultz is just scared like a little kid. He doesn’t even try long range shots. One thing is playing with kids, with no pressure for the result, having decent numbers and mostly loosing. I know he was awful FT shooter in college too. And 3 points shooting, name 1 good 3 point shooter in Nba who is shooting 60% FTs, like Fultz was shooting in school without pressure. With pressure 50% with this technique looks pretty realistic. That’s just show how absurd was for him to be uncontested No.1 pick. Doncic will have 200+ professional games played under his belt when he will come in Nba and no problems with pressure whatsoever. Real must win every game, that doesn’t exist even in Nba.

This is dumb lol.

He is scared to shoot a jumper but isn't scared to go into the paint seeking contact from grown men repeatedly?

So lets get this on the record, what type of stat lines do you see Doncic putting up out the gate during his 1st NBA season in the 1st lets say 10 games or so?

[Bob8]

You do realize that Fultz has never been a good free throw shooter while shooting great percentages from the 3 pt line or are you just dumb? Do you recognize that he is injured or does the injury excuse only work for Doncic?

The funny thing is Fultz has gotten into the paint at will....something Doncic will be lucky to do at the NBA level.

In Nba injured players are playing 20+ minutes?

Fultz is just scared like a little kid. He doesn’t even try long range shots. One thing is playing with kids, with no pressure for the result, having decent numbers and mostly loosing. I know he was awful FT shooter in college too. And 3 points shooting, name 1 good 3 point shooter in Nba who is shooting 60% FTs, like Fultz was shooting in school without pressure. With pressure 50% with this technique looks pretty realistic. That’s just show how absurd was for him to be uncontested No.1 pick. Doncic will have 200+ professional games played under his belt when he will come in Nba and no problems with pressure whatsoever. Real must win every game, that doesn’t exist even in Nba.

This is dumb lol.

He is scared to shoot a jumper but isn't scared to go into the paint seeking contact from grown men repeatedly?

So lets get this on the record, what type of stat lines do you see Doncic putting up out the gate during his 1st NBA season in the 1st lets say 10 games or so?

Much Better than under 50% FT and 0% 3 pts.

[reanimator]

In Nba injured players are playing 20+ minutes?

Fultz is just scared like a little kid. He doesn’t even try long range shots. One thing is playing with kids, with no pressure for the result, having decent numbers and mostly loosing. I know he was awful FT shooter in college too. And 3 points shooting, name 1 good 3 point shooter in Nba who is shooting 60% FTs, like Fultz was shooting in school without pressure. With pressure 50% with this technique looks pretty realistic. That’s just show how absurd was for him to be uncontested No.1 pick. Doncic will have 200+ professional games played under his belt when he will come in Nba and no problems with pressure whatsoever. Real must win every game, that doesn’t exist even in Nba.

This is dumb lol.

He is scared to shoot a jumper but isn't scared to go into the paint seeking contact from grown men repeatedly?

So lets get this on the record, what type of stat lines do you see Doncic putting up out the gate during his 1st NBA season in the 1st lets say 10 games or so?

Much Better than under 50% FT and 0% 3 pts.

If you haven't attempted a 3 then you aren't shooting "0%" from 3 pt.

Not sure why you are beating your chest when we are only 3 games into the NBA season knowing its going to blow up in your face?

[Bob8]

This is dumb lol.

He is scared to shoot a jumper but isn't scared to go into the paint seeking contact from grown men repeatedly?

So lets get this on the record, what type of stat lines do you see Doncic putting up out the gate during his 1st NBA season in the 1st lets say 10 games or so?

Much Better than under 50% FT and 0% 3 pts.

If you haven't attempted a 3 then you aren't shooting "0%" from 3 pt.

Not sure why you are beating your chest when we are only 3 games into the NBA season knowing its going to blow up in your face?

No it’s even worse if shooting Pg doesn’t even attempt longe range shots. But I can understand him, with technique of his, I wouldn’t either.
But please answer my question. Which Nba player is good 3 points shooter and is shooting Ft 60%?

[reanimator]

Much Better than under 50% FT and 0% 3 pts.

If you haven't attempted a 3 then you aren't shooting "0%" from 3 pt.

Not sure why you are beating your chest when we are only 3 games into the NBA season knowing its going to blow up in your face?

No it’s even worse if shooting Pg doesn’t even attempt longe range shots. But I can understand him, with technique of his, I wouldn’t either.
But please answer my question. Which Nba player is good 3 points shooter and is shooting Ft 60%?

Bruce Bowen and Jason Richardson immediately come to mind even though you are derailing the thread with nonsense.

[Nikson]

If we are going to compare Dončić with Fultz we can close the thread.

[Bob8]

If you haven't attempted a 3 then you aren't shooting "0%" from 3 pt.

Not sure why you are beating your chest when we are only 3 games into the NBA season knowing its going to blow up in your face?

No it’s even worse if shooting Pg doesn’t even attempt longe range shots. But I can understand him, with technique of his, I wouldn’t either.
But please answer my question. Which Nba player is good 3 points shooter and is shooting Ft 60%?

Bruce Bowen and Jason Richardson immediately come to mind even though you are derailing the thread with nonsense.

Bowen... You’re right we should return to someone who actually know how to play basketball. Only Doncic from now on.

[Johnny Firpo]

Bruce Bowen and Jason Richardson immediately come to mind even though you are derailing the thread with nonsense.

You talking about derailing this thread is rich.

[wablty]

I don't get the hate. So even if he isn't Euro hoops Jesus, he might be a bigger Rubio with a jump shot? That's pretty damn good.

[Marcus]

If we are going to compare Dončić with Fultz we can close the thread.

getting pretty close to it to be honest.

[SportsGuy8]

I don't think thread locking is the right measure when it's always the same group of individuals messing up Doncic threads.

There's always a couple pages of normal Doncic discussions (even if there are major disagreements) followed by a couple pages of 2 or 3 guys having ego-battles full of emotion ...

[Derento]

I'm Flabbergasted how good he is right now and how much he improved in 6 months. He was turnover prone before, now has great ball security as shown in EB & early part of season. Able to shoot pullups in mid range & has a close jumper. Finishing a the rim well.
Creating majority of his shots easily. I'f he shows improvement like this in another 6 months he's going be shooting like Steph Curry from 3 & dunking like Lebron

[Bob8]

I don't think thread locking is the right measure when it's always the same group of individuals messing up Doncic threads.

There's always a couple pages of normal Doncic discussions (even if there are major disagreements) followed by a couple pages of 2 or 3 guys having ego-battles full of emotion ...

Oh please, I will voluntarily stop posting that you won’t have that kind of problems. Where are we in church or what, to have to be all the time political correct?

To be honest I rather don’t agree with reanimator than hearing some parrots like you here repeating the same thing over and over again.

And moderator doing nothing except locking thread.

Goodbye

[SportsGuy8]

k.

Bye