Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1

[Braggins]

I'm not saying we'll trade anyone, but there is no way Cliff and the FO are not in discussions for Bledsoe. He's like a better version of what JLin was for us, and he's who we were hoping Sessions could be.

How big of a meltdown will we have if we trade Monk for Bledsoe?

I'd be disgusted unless they were sending back Josh Jackson.

Who would have to give up a pick to make MKG + Monk for Bledsoe + JJ happen? Would that actually be good for us? I'd probably be into it, possibly even if we were giving up the pick, but I'm pretty optimistic about Josh Jackson.

[Bassman]

I'm not saying we'll trade anyone, but there is no way Cliff and the FO are not in discussions for Bledsoe. He's like a better version of what JLin was for us, and he's who we were hoping Sessions could be.

How big of a meltdown will we have if we trade Monk for Bledsoe?

I'd be disgusted unless they were sending back Josh Jackson.

Who would have to give up a pick to make MKG + Monk for Bledsoe + JJ happen? Would that actually be good for us? I'd probably be into it, possibly even if we were giving up the pick, but I'm pretty optimistic about Josh Jackson.

They would never do that deal, but not sure I would either. Monk is just too valuable to us potentially over the upcoming years, has more size than Bledsoe and can play the 2. I really like Jackson, and they clearly would value him more than Monk and one of our picks plus MKG.

I'm not convinced Bledsoe is worth heavy investment. MKG for Bledsoe? I'd be open to that especially if we could swap draft picks with them.

[SeanBobcats]

After watching the game against Milwaukee I think I'm more inclined to see a MKG/Bledsoe swap. Treveon looks to have emerged as a solid role player and even though his defensive impact isn't the same as MKG, his ability to knock down a three here and there helps make up for it.

[JDR720]

I don't know why the suns would do either trade.

Certainly don't need another guard or sf. Could see them want cody though.

[JDR720]

And I doubt bledsoe would want to be a backup.

[Diop]

anyone concerned about Bledsloe's injury history?

[LofJ]

Here's a trade I could see us doing once Batum is back:

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6957705

CHA out Williams and Lamb
CHA in Powell, Barea, and McRoberts

DAL out Powell, Barea, and McRoberts
DAL in Dieng and Lamb

MIN in Williams
MIN out Dieng

The team moves Lamb to open up more playing time for Graham and Bacon, and moves Williams as well for a cheaper, younger player in Powell. We also add a steady ball-handler with championship experience in Barea and bring back a guy that the team really liked in McRoberts.

Dallas moves spare parts and gets a fall back option if Noel leaves in free agency. They also add badly needed wing depth with Lamb.

Minnesota moves Dieng to save money and add a better fitting player in Marvin Williams.

[dmutombo321]

A player I'd take a hard look at if he becomes available is Dario Saric.

He's the type of talent with All-Star potential who it would be worth taking a gamble on.

In his final 30 games of the season last year after he hit his stride, he averaged 18 points, 7 rebounds and 3 assist on 45% shooting in 30 minutes per game.

But now that the Sixers have Ben Simmons added to the mix as the Co-face of the franchise with Embiid, Saric's minutes are down and he's been relegated to a bench role. As point forward types, Simmon's and Saric's games are similar so it makes more sense for philly to play Covington beside Simmons at the 3 than Saric.

Dario's 23 years old, has multiple years left on his rookie contract and is equally adept at playing both forward spots. The kid's a great teammate, crafty scorer, can handle and pass the ball and is an improving outside shooter.

He'd likely be a pricey trade acquisition, because Philly has seen what he can do, but they may consider parting with him for players who are more complementary to their core, and/or picks. I'd consider taking a flier on him and plugging him in at SF. He could take some of the wing scoring burden off Kemba and really blossom

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[Kembastockton]

Phoenix would want Kemba back in any Bledsoe trade. I'm not interested in trading Kemba to them unless the package contains Booker and an unprotected pick. We all know that isn't happening.

Dario could be nice. I think he has one of the most unappreciated games in the league. I would not give up much for him thought. Frank or Marvin maybe.

[Bassman]

A player I'd take a hard look at if he becomes available is Dario Saric.

He's the type of talent with All-Star potential who it would be worth taking a gamble on.

In his final 30 games of the season last year after he hit his stride, he averaged 18 points, 7 rebounds and 3 assist on 45% shooting in 30 minutes per game.

But now that the Sixers have Ben Simmons added to the mix as the Co-face of the franchise with Embiid, Saric's minutes are down and he's been relegated to a bench role. As point forward types, Simmon's and Saric's games are similar so it makes more sense for philly to play Covington beside Simmons at the 3 than Saric.

Dario's 23 years old, has multiple years left on his rookie contract and is equally adept at playing both forward spots. The kid's a great teammate, crafty scorer, can handle and pass the ball and is an improving outside shooter.

He'd likely be a pricey trade acquisition, because Philly has seen what he can do, but they may consider parting with him for players who are more complementary to their core, and/or picks. I'd consider taking a flier on him and plugging him in at SF. He could take some of the wing scoring burden off Kemba and really blossom

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I always like DMutumbo's ideas. This is a great idea and a guy who would fit this team very well. Trade them MKG.

[bravor]

I 'd rather get Jamychal Green. He could be a pretty awesome tweener in Clifford's system.

Saric is injury prone. Not because he is fragile, but because he played at a high level since he is 16. As young as he is in the nba, he played hundreds of games in Europe, in former clubs or with Croatia - in youth teams and with the senior NT.
And he is a tough player, not shying away from contacts.
As great as he is (and he is.. especially for his court vision and passing game, with a nice defense for his size), i think the risk would be too high for the price tag.

[countryboi]

if the 6ers are willing to give up on Saric for a player like MGK, I would be worried he is damaged goods.

[dmutombo321]

Health and durability havent been an issue for Saric since he entered the league. He played 81 games last year missing only a single contest due to a shin bruise.

Agree with CB that Philly would not likely trade Saric for Gilchrist straight up. It would almost certainly require Charlotte throwing in next year's first. I'd still do it though; In the right environment, I think Saric can be an absolute stud.

He only played 17 minutes last night. Its clear Saric needs a charge of scenery as Ben Simmons has made him redundant at the forward spot. I expect his situation this season will be alot like Nukic's with Denver last year. A franchise player eats up his minutes, he can never find a rhythm in limited time off the bench, his stats suffer, the league begins to under value him as a result, and then he's finally dealt only to tear it up elsewhere in a feature role.

[Mystical Apples]

I'd fire Cho with cause if he traded MKG + 1st for Saric.

[Bassman]

I'd fire Cho with cause if he traded MKG + 1st for Saric.

Honestly, what does MKG bring to the table here? And don't give me the fantasy of being a lock down defender; that has been disproven many times over. He is athletic, and defense is his best attribute, but limited in every other way. I don't want to give up 1st round picks but for the right player I'd do it in a heartbeat. The sad part is they probably wouldn't trade Saric straight up for MKG, even with Saric playing bench minutes.

I look at what do we have now and what do we need. MKG will never be a player worthy of starting minutes, and will never offer any significant impact on offense. Saric is a quality player on both sides of the ball, young, and ready to contribute as a starter on this team. Next year's pick is a crap shoot especially if we're outside the lottery. Bacon has a better chance of being an impact player at the 3 than MKG but Saric would already be that contributor here. I'd pull the trigger Cho.

[Vanderbilt_Grad]

I'm 100% positive that the Hornets brass values MKG for things like his character, on court effort, and such, that I'm not sure other teams would be as high on. That's a big part of what makes him hard to trade.

I get Saric's potential fit in terms of shooting, size, and position. I just see this being a trade that would be tough for both teams. The 76ers would want another 1st for all the reasons listed in posts above, but from Charlotte's perspective I think they would be crazy to give it.

[Bassman]

I'm 100% positive that the Hornets brass values MKG for things like his character, on court effort, and such, that I'm not sure other teams would be as high on. That's a big part of what makes him hard to trade.

I get Saric's potential fit in terms of shooting, size, and position. I just see this being a trade that would be tough for both teams. The 76ers would want another 1st for all the reasons listed in posts above, but from Charlotte's perspective I think they would be crazy to give it.

Certainly respect your opinion. If the Hornets attach that kind of value to those qualities of MKG then he will never be dealt and we will always be left needing what he cannot provide.

[LofJ]

I struggle to understand why an elite perimeter defender and rebounder who is fast enough to crash the offensive glass and still get back on defense; and is also able to lead the break on transition opportunities while only making $12 million a year is a team liability. I'm as disappointed as anyone that he has yet to become a threat from the perimeter, but his other qualities outweigh that. I'm not trading a positive impact player making role player money unless it's for someone who is a slam dunk difference maker.

His number one problem has always been confidence. If we're lucky Monk and Bacon's confidence will rub off on him as it appears to have for Kaminsky.

[Braggins]

Yeah, I don't get the sense of urgency to trade MKG. I mean, he was part of one of the better lineups in the league last season when our starters were healthy.

[Bassman]

So what deal could we offer to get Okafor and Saric?? I think both players would be stellar here. MKG and who else would work? If we could deal Marvin too that would be sweet.

I'd see Saric starting. Okafor coming off the bench, but with significant minutes. Frank and Cody plus JOB makes a nice bigs rotation.

Come on Charlotte...go for it!