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XTraderXL wrote:Hayward sounds about right to me but I disagree that is his ceiling. Maybe Doncic will not be scoring 23 ppg but he is/will be a better play maker and a better rebounder than Hayward and as such more valuable to his team.
His floor is of course lower, I would say his floor is Rubio.
pacersGM wrote:BoardCrusher wrote:Well, since we're predicting the future once again I'll throw in my 2 cents. He will have a much bigger impact in nba then most posters here are expecting.
isnt that the topic title? to try to forsee his future in the best league in the nba?
if another topic will be opened up: LUKA DONCICS CURRENT PLAY ANALYSIS, i wont be posting there, since it is clear that he is playing phenomenal basketball within the euroleague/acb frameset and competition.
if you get upset by someone who says IMO doncic willl translate into the nba like this and that, then you have a problem with yourself.
and god beware someone says doncic IMO wont be leveled with harden, curry, durant, lebron once is said & done.
Johnny Firpo wrote:I'm not sure how much athleticism you really need to drive in the NBA. Does Gallo have elite ball handling skills? Is he fast? I don't think so, and yet, he was pretty much an elite "foul drawer" for years. Doncic has much better ball-handling, and is quicker than Gallo. Sure, he needs that jumper to be more consistent, but if Gallo can score 19-20 in the NBA on 60%TS, I don't see why we should put a limit on Doncic's ceiling as a scorer.
Johnny Firpo wrote:No one compared Doncic to Gallo, as players. Come on, man. My point was, if Gallo with his limited explosiveness and average handles can get to the line at will, why would Doncic have any problem doing it? I'm also not saying Gallo is a bad athlete, I'm just saying that Doncic is clearly better.
BoardCrusher wrote:Mods were already asked to change the title from "number one pick" to something less controversial, so trolls wouldn't be baited by it as much as they are now.
Rn5ho wrote:Johnny Firpo wrote:No one compared Doncic to Gallo, as players. Come on, man. My point was, if Gallo with his limited explosiveness and average handles can get to the line at will, why would Doncic have any problem doing it? I'm also not saying Gallo is a bad athlete, I'm just saying that Doncic is clearly better.
I wasn't really addressing you, sorry if it came away like that - but pacersGM justified that 19-20 pts/game is something normal for Gallinari, because "he was always known as attacker, scorer" and because he's a total of 6~ cm taller than Luka. That's the argument - Luka will never be able to score in NBA and his skills/stats will not transition to NBA (at all), but other players who transitioned their upside areas were always expected to anyway, since that's what they were good at. But since Luka is good at everything, there's no way that can transition.
Maybe it won't, but there's no reasons/proof provided yet that this would be the case. He's showing improvements each weak, at all times impressing and toying around with 10+ year pros (some of whom played in NBA) and still his game won't transition, just because.
pacersGM wrote:Rn5ho wrote:Johnny Firpo wrote:No one compared Doncic to Gallo, as players. Come on, man. My point was, if Gallo with his limited explosiveness and average handles can get to the line at will, why would Doncic have any problem doing it? I'm also not saying Gallo is a bad athlete, I'm just saying that Doncic is clearly better.
I wasn't really addressing you, sorry if it came away like that - but pacersGM justified that 19-20 pts/game is something normal for Gallinari, because "he was always known as attacker, scorer" and because he's a total of 6~ cm taller than Luka. That's the argument - Luka will never be able to score in NBA and his skills/stats will not transition to NBA (at all), but other players who transitioned their upside areas were always expected to anyway, since that's what they were good at. But since Luka is good at everything, there's no way that can transition.
Maybe it won't, but there's no reasons/proof provided yet that this would be the case. He's showing improvements each weak, at all times impressing and toying around with 10+ year pros (some of whom played in NBA) and still his game won't transition, just because.
And where in the whole world did you come to the conclusion that i compared doncic to gallinari? Or that i said that doncics stats wont translate into the nba?
Wich would be this year what? 15/5/5? Arent those solid nba player numbers?
Im saying that euro numbers usualy translate into the nba 1:1. But you then must expect doncics numbers will multiply in the nba to 24/9/9? Or am i missing the part where i am insulting doncic with some low ceiling. If he is the fist wonderkind who multiplys his nba stats wich automatic brings him into lebron teritory 25/9/9 i will be the first one to admit my misjudgement. But will he multiply them really?? That simple?? Or is it more real of a possibility he translates them at 1:1 to a very soolid nba 15/5/5?
Wtf, where am i selling doncic short? Is it the part i dont see him averaging 24/9/9?? Because he wont do that in his and my lifetime ever!
XTraderXL wrote:
I think 20/8/8 is entirely possible for him in a few years.
XTraderXL wrote:So Simmons is viable for you to mention after 3 games, but Ball is not. Interesting logic...
I wouldnt even bring up Lonzo but you brought up Simmons;-)