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Re: Nets - In Season Moves & Possible Trade Ideas 

Post#221 » by Curns13 » Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:06 am

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Curns13 wrote:I’d be willing to include Skill and the Raptors 2nd in any trade scenario. If the Mavs want some ‘instant offense’ in exchange for a guy who is definitely leaving, i’d take a 6 month rental on Noel. If he pans out, that’s awesome, if not all it cost was a 2nd rounder.

He’s not very good and this first season in Dallas has been a disaster.

The fact he got benched on a 2-10 team for not earning his minutes isn’t very good either. Dallas is running with Dirk and Mijeri at C. Noel gets garbage minutes now.

Skill isn’t any good and is barely playing so the only cost would be a 2nd rounder. He had a PER of 20 and a TS% of .600 last year. I’d definitely kick the tyres on him at that cost. If he’s no good you cut him, he he works out you suddenly have 2 young centres that defend and pick and roll. Can’t lose.
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Re: Nets - In Season Moves & Possible Trade Ideas 

Post#222 » by kamaze » Wed Nov 15, 2017 4:00 am

Curns13 wrote:I’d be willing to include Skill and the Raptors 2nd in any trade scenario. If the Mavs want some ‘instant offense’ in exchange for a guy who is definitely leaving, i’d take a 6 month rental on Noel. If he pans out, that’s awesome, if not all it cost was a 2nd rounder.


Gambling a 2nd round pick is a Billy King move this regime takes the slow and steady approach.. They're not good enough to start trading picks especially for one year rentals.

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Re: Nets - In Season Moves & Possible Trade Ideas 

Post#223 » by Curns13 » Wed Nov 15, 2017 5:11 am

kamaze wrote:
Curns13 wrote:I’d be willing to include Skill and the Raptors 2nd in any trade scenario. If the Mavs want some ‘instant offense’ in exchange for a guy who is definitely leaving, i’d take a 6 month rental on Noel. If he pans out, that’s awesome, if not all it cost was a 2nd rounder.


Gambling a 2nd round pick is a Billy King move this regime takes the slow and steady approach.. They're not good enough to start trading picks especially for one year rentals.

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You’re pretty confident for a guy that can’t even watch a video competently.
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Re: Nets - In Season Moves & Possible Trade Ideas 

Post#224 » by kamaze » Wed Nov 15, 2017 6:18 am

Curns13 wrote:
kamaze wrote:
Curns13 wrote:I’d be willing to include Skill and the Raptors 2nd in any trade scenario. If the Mavs want some ‘instant offense’ in exchange for a guy who is definitely leaving, i’d take a 6 month rental on Noel. If he pans out, that’s awesome, if not all it cost was a 2nd rounder.


Gambling a 2nd round pick is a Billy King move this regime takes the slow and steady approach.. They're not good enough to start trading picks especially for one year rentals.

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You’re pretty confident for a guy that can’t even watch a video competently.


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Re: Nets - In Season Moves & Possible Trade Ideas 

Post#225 » by Curns13 » Wed Nov 15, 2017 7:18 am

kamaze wrote:
Curns13 wrote:
kamaze wrote:
Gambling a 2nd round pick is a Billy King move this regime takes the slow and steady approach.. They're not good enough to start trading picks especially for one year rentals.

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You’re pretty confident for a guy that can’t even watch a video competently.


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Perhaps you could spend less time finding hilarious gifs and more time having a clue about what you are talking about.
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Re: Nets - In Season Moves & Possible Trade Ideas 

Post#226 » by Aussienet3 » Fri Nov 17, 2017 9:40 am

I'm just wondering what peoples thoughts are on this trade. It works on the trade checker. Please just give an honest opinion. No need to turn the after burners on and flame away. lol

Booker and Skill for Teletovic. 2 reasons.
1) Teletovic gives us 3 point shooting and height in our system.
2) Trading 2 for 1 opens up a roster spot to use the injury exception created by Lin on a 6-10 athletic big who can block shots and grab boards. (surely there is one available on this planet? lol)

The downside is the loss of Bookers hustle play (but hopefully replaced by the injury exception player) Also salary wise we have Teletovic on the books for $10.5 mill. But we counter that by Lin, Carroll and Teletovic all coming off the books at once to the tune of $37.4 mill plus whatever cap rises are due.

Thoughts??

p.s I'm aware that our rookie contracted players like D'Lo, RHJ and LeVert will have been extended to eat up some of our available cap space.
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Re: Nets - In Season Moves & Possible Trade Ideas 

Post#227 » by Keith Van Horn » Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:35 pm

I'd be interested in Noel. We obviously have a big problem. As long as we're not giving up much then I'd see if the Mavs would want to part ways with him. I agree with Churns in seeing if Kilpatrick and a future second rounder would do it.
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Re: Nets - In Season Moves & Possible Trade Ideas 

Post#228 » by TheNetsFan » Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:36 pm

Aussienet3 wrote:I'm just wondering what peoples thoughts are on this trade. It works on the trade checker. Please just give an honest opinion. No need to turn the after burners on and flame away. lol

Booker and Skill for Teletovic. 2 reasons.
1) Teletovic gives us 3 point shooting and height in our system.
2) Trading 2 for 1 opens up a roster spot to use the injury exception created by Lin on a 6-10 athletic big who can block shots and grab boards. (surely there is one available on this planet? lol)

The downside is the loss of Bookers hustle play (but hopefully replaced by the injury exception player) Also salary wise we have Teletovic on the books for $10.5 mill. But we counter that by Lin, Carroll and Teletovic all coming off the books at once to the tune of $37.4 mill plus whatever cap rises are due.

Thoughts??

p.s I'm aware that our rookie contracted players like D'Lo, RHJ and LeVert will have been extended to eat up some of our available cap space.
No. You don't take on Teletovic's contract without significant incentive to do do.
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Re: Nets - In Season Moves & Possible Trade Ideas 

Post#229 » by IceManBK1 » Fri Nov 17, 2017 3:57 pm

i hope we land mirotic and noel. we're need more size and defense in the frontcourt. we're gonna be alot better with a lineup of dlo/crabbe/RHJ/Mirotic/Noel. Mirotic is a stretch 4 so RHJ can still do his thing at SF.
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Re: Nets - In Season Moves & Possible Trade Ideas 

Post#230 » by brook » Fri Nov 17, 2017 4:45 pm

Mirotic is very bad on defense and too bad in the Locker room.
I don't see why switch RHJ to SF when in PF role is our best player in the entire roster

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Re: Nets - In Season Moves & Possible Trade Ideas 

Post#231 » by Ror1997 » Fri Nov 17, 2017 4:45 pm

Mirotic does more harm off thr court then he would do good on the court
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Re: Nets - In Season Moves & Possible Trade Ideas 

Post#232 » by Aussienet3 » Fri Nov 17, 2017 9:26 pm

brook wrote:Mirotic is very bad on defense and too bad in the Locker room.
I don't see why switch RHJ to SF when in PF role is our best player in the entire roster

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To be fair. I never said to switch RHJ anywhere. But by adding a potential rim protector with the injury exception would give RHJ so much needed relief from the 4. I agree whole heartedly that he is our best defender. But RHJ playing at the 4 every game is not sustainable IMHO. I believe it will limit his career through niggling injuries by banging against bigger bodies. And dare I say it could he be unfortunate enough to get a long term injury by continuously banging against bigger bodies.
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Re: Nets - In Season Moves & Possible Trade Ideas 

Post#233 » by Claud » Fri Nov 17, 2017 11:35 pm

With Lin and Russell out... maybe we need a trusty veteran PG to come in for the rest of the season?
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Re: Nets - In Season Moves & Possible Trade Ideas 

Post#234 » by Paradise » Fri Nov 17, 2017 11:54 pm

Claud wrote:With Lin and Russell out... maybe we need a trusty veteran PG to come in for the rest of the season?


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Re: Nets - In Season Moves & Possible Trade Ideas 

Post#235 » by brook » Sat Nov 18, 2017 1:40 pm

I really hope we get a real playmaker.

Whitehead is a pitbull on defense who must improve to shot threes to have a role in this league. But he isn't a playmaker.

Kilpatrick is barely a basketball player...

I already said this, we can offer Kilpatrick for Satoransky. Kilpatrick can be useful for Wizards with his istant offense, Wiz's bench is very stagnant. But especially Wiz can accept this offer for cap e tax relief, because Satoransky have another year after this.
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Re: Nets - In Season Moves & Possible Trade Ideas 

Post#236 » by Netaman » Sat Nov 18, 2017 3:21 pm

Whitehead and Kilpatrick have regressed big time. Can't believe they were starting/getting major minutes last year. Woof.
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Re: Nets - In Season Moves & Possible Trade Ideas 

Post#237 » by steady » Sat Nov 18, 2017 4:38 pm

RHJ, Din, LeVert, Harris even Acy have taken the next step. IW and Skil have not at least not yet - and more than their skill potential I am not sure about system fit. With Russell's surgery Marks seems to be taking the idea of trading or releasing one of them more seriously than before. I am not rooting for it to happen because I like both guys but it does seem increasingly possible
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Post#238 » by Claud » Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:50 pm

steady wrote:RHJ, Din, LeVert, Harris even Acy have taken the next step. IW and Skil have not at least not yet - and more than their skill potential I am not sure about system fit. With Russell's surgery Marks seems to be taking the idea of trading or releasing one of them more seriously than before. I am not rooting for it to happen because I like both guys but it does seem increasingly possible


Whitehead needs more time IMO. I think with Lin and Russel out this is the time for him to prove he belongs. He will get minutes now by default so he needs to make the best of it. I think this season will make or break him.

In the other hand I've given up on SK. His # 1 skill is scoring but in this league he's very 1-dimensional and hurts you more than helps. His lack of defense and BBIQ don't help either.
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Re: Nets - In Season Moves & Possible Trade Ideas 

Post#239 » by Ror1997 » Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:52 pm

JJ Barea for Kilpatrick + Indy's second round

Dallas doesn't have to blow everything up, but moving Barea means more mins for DSJ/Yogi. They still have Devin Harris, too.

We get a Vet PG who's averaged about 4.5 assists in 22 mpg over the past 3 years. A veteran playmaker on a cheap contract is exactly what we need.
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Re: Nets - In Season Moves & Possible Trade Ideas 

Post#240 » by brook » Sun Nov 19, 2017 12:00 am

I like Barea but I prefer to retain picks, especially the Indy's pick that have a good protection for us.


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