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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion II 

Post#1421 » by LloydFree » Fri Nov 17, 2017 12:08 am

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complete offensive player, to go along with his measurables. and we saw glimpses of what he can be on the defensive end.

He was a pretty complete college scorer, however I don't think he has the quickness or burst in his game to transfer what we saw in college to the NBA. I'm not sure Fultz will be one of the 10 best players in this class.


I hope so...I wasn’t initially in favor of the trade, but we needed another shooter. Let’s hope he gets his shot together and reaches his upside.

I'm not worried about his perimeter shooting. I think he'll eventually get that, just like the other rookies in the class that are currently struggling. These guys are overwhelmed by the speed and physicality of the competition. Once they get stronger, if they have the mental strength to regain their confidence, they become good shooters. If not, they become Nik Stauskas.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion II 

Post#1422 » by Unbreakable99 » Fri Nov 17, 2017 12:33 am

Cowherd talked about Ball and Whitlock called him a bust then Cowherd said Fultz is a bust because he’s not playing.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion II 

Post#1423 » by XtremeDunkz » Fri Nov 17, 2017 5:46 am

Unbreakable99 wrote:Cowherd talked about Ball and Whitlock called him a bust then Cowherd said Fultz is a bust because he’s not playing.

Cowherd = Skip without the screaming.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion II 

Post#1424 » by Simmons25 » Fri Nov 17, 2017 7:28 am

Cowherd said last year Joel Embiid was "Now officially Greg Oden" and intimated he would never play again.
Cowherd said last year Ben Simmons was "Full of red flags" and "isn't competitive" and would take Simmons #2.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion II 

Post#1425 » by Ryuzaki » Fri Nov 17, 2017 10:35 am

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LloydFree wrote:By what measure


complete offensive player, to go along with his measurables. and we saw glimpses of what he can be on the defensive end.

He was a pretty complete college scorer, however I don't think he has the quickness or burst in his game to transfer what we saw in college to the NBA. I'm not sure Fultz will be one of the 10 best players in this class.


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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion II 

Post#1426 » by Ericb5 » Fri Nov 17, 2017 11:20 am

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Unbreakable99 wrote:Cowherd talked about Ball and Whitlock called him a bust then Cowherd said Fultz is a bust because he’s not playing.

Cowherd = Skip without the screaming.


Cowherd’s opinions don’t mean much to me, but intelligence wise, and ability to make an argument wise, he is a master of his craft. Bayless isn’t even in his galaxy as an intellect.


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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion II 

Post#1427 » by cksdayoff » Fri Nov 17, 2017 11:49 am

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Unbreakable99 wrote:Cowherd talked about Ball and Whitlock called him a bust then Cowherd said Fultz is a bust because he’s not playing.

Cowherd = Skip without the screaming.


Cowherd’s opinions don’t mean much to me, but intelligence wise, and ability to make an argument wise, he is a master of his craft. Bayless isn’t even in his galaxy as an intellect.


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that just means simmons and embiid were a bust in their first years as well :lol:
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion II 

Post#1428 » by cksdayoff » Fri Nov 17, 2017 12:00 pm

Simmons25 wrote:Cowherd said last year Joel Embiid was "Now officially Greg Oden" and intimated he would never play again.
Cowherd said last year Ben Simmons was "Full of red flags" and "isn't competitive" and would take Simmons #2.


its funny because i remember seeing cowherd call ben a generational talent and he was undoubtedly the #1 overall pick and then he becomes the forgotten man last year because of his injury and becomes an afterthought to cowherd.

all these talking heads are funny. during the summer broussard said lonzo could possibly take the lakers to the playoffs, calls him generational/transcendent and now, 3 weeks into the season, says lonzo probably shouldnt have been the #2 overall pick. he says lavar hyped up his son so much that the lakers bought into the hype lol and that he’s probably more of 6-10 pick. its a joke. these “analysts” couldnt see through all the noise to judge these prospects with a clear head? its not only that, its like theyve never watched lonzo in games but only in highlights because all of a sudden theyre talking about how he cant shoot, how he has no midrange and how he can’t attack the paint, like this is some sort of breaking news.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion II 

Post#1429 » by Simmons25 » Fri Nov 17, 2017 12:08 pm

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Simmons25 wrote:Cowherd said last year Joel Embiid was "Now officially Greg Oden" and intimated he would never play again.
Cowherd said last year Ben Simmons was "Full of red flags" and "isn't competitive" and would take Simmons #2.


its funny because i remember seeing cowherd call ben a generational talent and he was undoubtedly the #1 overall pick and then he becomes the forgotten man last year because of his injury and becomes an afterthought to cowherd.

all these talking heads are funny. during the summer broussard said lonzo could possibly take the lakers to the playoffs, calls him generational/transcendent and now, 3 weeks into the season, says lonzo probably shouldnt have been the #2 overall pick. he says lavar hyped up his son so much that the lakers bought into the hype lol and that he’s probably more of 6-10 pick. its a joke. these “analysts” couldnt see through all the noise to judge these prospects with a clear head? its not only that, its like theyve never watched lonzo in games but only in highlights because all of a sudden theyre talking about how he cant shoot, how he has no midrange and how he can’t attack the paint, like this is some sort of news.


Yup. He had Simmons at the beginning of the College season as a generational talent. Then when Ben missed classes he had that flog Jonathon Giveny on his show who has always had it in for Simmons saying that "NBA scouts" are telling him he has red flags and doesn't listen to coaches and has quit on the team :lol: :lol: Suddenly he changed his tune.

He is back now though to saying he is a generational talent again I'm sure after seeing 20 mins of youtube highlights.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion II 

Post#1430 » by cksdayoff » Fri Nov 17, 2017 12:18 pm

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Yup. He had Simmons at the beginning of the College season as a generational talent. Then when Ben missed classes he had that flog Jonathon Giveny on his show who has always had it in for Simmons saying that "NBA scouts" are telling him he has red flags and doesn't listen to coaches and has quit on the team :lol: :lol: Suddenly he changed his tune.

He is back now though to saying he is a generational talent again I'm sure after seeing 20 mins of youtube highlights.


also funny seeing these guys mention ben simmons and his “3 point shooting” pointing to his 0-7 lol. its just pathetic
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion II 

Post#1431 » by freshie2 » Fri Nov 17, 2017 12:21 pm

Cowherd is pretty horrible. I'm sure he's a bright guy, but just confrontational to get ratings. Honestly, I had forgotten about him since he's not on ESPN radio...guess he's on FOX or one of the regional stations now??
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion II 

Post#1432 » by LloydFree » Fri Nov 17, 2017 12:34 pm

cksdayoff wrote:
Simmons25 wrote:Cowherd said last year Joel Embiid was "Now officially Greg Oden" and intimated he would never play again.
Cowherd said last year Ben Simmons was "Full of red flags" and "isn't competitive" and would take Simmons #2.


its funny because i remember seeing cowherd call ben a generational talent and he was undoubtedly the #1 overall pick and then he becomes the forgotten man last year because of his injury and becomes an afterthought to cowherd.

all these talking heads are funny. during the summer broussard said lonzo could possibly take the lakers to the playoffs, calls him generational/transcendent and now, 3 weeks into the season, says lonzo probably shouldnt have been the #2 overall pick. he says lavar hyped up his son so much that the lakers bought into the hype lol and that he’s probably more of 6-10 pick. its a joke. these “analysts” couldnt see through all the noise to judge these prospects with a clear head? its not only that, its like theyve never watched lonzo in games but only in highlights because all of a sudden theyre talking about how he cant shoot, how he has no midrange and how he can’t attack the paint, like this is some sort of breaking news.

You are making this up. Brussard didn't say any of this in his interview with Cowherd or on his podcast.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion II 

Post#1433 » by cksdayoff » Fri Nov 17, 2017 12:46 pm

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Simmons25 wrote:Cowherd said last year Joel Embiid was "Now officially Greg Oden" and intimated he would never play again.
Cowherd said last year Ben Simmons was "Full of red flags" and "isn't competitive" and would take Simmons #2.


its funny because i remember seeing cowherd call ben a generational talent and he was undoubtedly the #1 overall pick and then he becomes the forgotten man last year because of his injury and becomes an afterthought to cowherd.

all these talking heads are funny. during the summer broussard said lonzo could possibly take the lakers to the playoffs, calls him generational/transcendent and now, 3 weeks into the season, says lonzo probably shouldnt have been the #2 overall pick. he says lavar hyped up his son so much that the lakers bought into the hype lol and that he’s probably more of 6-10 pick. its a joke. these “analysts” couldnt see through all the noise to judge these prospects with a clear head? its not only that, its like theyve never watched lonzo in games but only in highlights because all of a sudden theyre talking about how he cant shoot, how he has no midrange and how he can’t attack the paint, like this is some sort of breaking news.

You are making this up. Brussard didn't say any of this in his interview with Cowherd or on his podcast.


you seriously think i would make stuff up in this forum that could easily be searched on youtube?
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion II 

Post#1434 » by LloydFree » Fri Nov 17, 2017 12:57 pm

cksdayoff wrote:
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its funny because i remember seeing cowherd call ben a generational talent and he was undoubtedly the #1 overall pick and then he becomes the forgotten man last year because of his injury and becomes an afterthought to cowherd.

all these talking heads are funny. during the summer broussard said lonzo could possibly take the lakers to the playoffs, calls him generational/transcendent and now, 3 weeks into the season, says lonzo probably shouldnt have been the #2 overall pick. he says lavar hyped up his son so much that the lakers bought into the hype lol and that he’s probably more of 6-10 pick. its a joke. these “analysts” couldnt see through all the noise to judge these prospects with a clear head? its not only that, its like theyve never watched lonzo in games but only in highlights because all of a sudden theyre talking about how he cant shoot, how he has no midrange and how he can’t attack the paint, like this is some sort of breaking news.

You are making this up. Brussard didn't say any of this in his interview with Cowherd or on his podcast.


you seriously think i would make stuff up in this forum that could easily be searched on youtube?

Maybe I missed that part and you got that quote from an interview that I didn't see. I saw his most recent interview he said that scouts were concerned that Ball wasn't vocal enough at the PG position to be "great", but everyone he talked to still believes he will be "good". I didn't hear anything about he should have been picked 6-10, or that the Lakers shouldn't have picked him or that his father fooled the Lakers into taking him. Like I said, you may have seen a different interview, but I find it hard to believe, because Chris Brussard doesn't even talk negatively about players like that.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion II 

Post#1435 » by cksdayoff » Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:02 pm

LloydFree wrote:
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LloydFree wrote:You are making this up. Brussard didn't say any of this in his interview with Cowherd or on his podcast.


you seriously think i would make stuff up in this forum that could easily be searched on youtube?

Maybe I missed that part and you got that quote from an interview that I didn't see. I saw his most recent interview he said that scouts were concerned that Ball wasn't vocal enough at the PG position to be "great", but everyone he talked to still believes he will be "good". I didn't hear anything about he should have been picked 6-10, or that the Lakers shouldn't have picked him or that his father fooled the Lakers into taking him. Like I said, you may have seen a different interview, but I find it hard to believe, because Chris Brussard doesn't even talk negatively about players like that.


im kinda offended that you would think i would make something or anything up around here. broussard appears on cowherd’s show like every other day. look, i was pretty shocked to see him backtrack like that because it makes him look pathetic, when i get home from work ill look for the interview and post it. but believe me if u can when i say that im mot making this up lol
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion II 

Post#1436 » by Sportfan73 » Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:42 pm

At the end of the day with Kelle i agree with what we did, if one of Simmons or Biid wasn’t a lock to be a superstar there would be a TON of pressure on fultz but with them ballin and Cov locked up why not go boom or bust with that pick. I know some of you are going to say he’s not boom or bust because of his lack of athleticism. But what if the bet was that we can develop him into an NBA athlete (yes i know easier said than done) but we do have a lot of faith in our nutrition guys and training staff with conditioning. Fultz now has just as good of a situation as Tatum does if not better, he gets to play off of 2 stars and 2 sharpshooters, never has to guard the other teams best player, and gets to play a lot in the second unit and feast on other teams second units kinda like wade/kyrie have done on the Bron lead teams of the last few years. He is set up for success


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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion II 

Post#1437 » by Ericb5 » Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:43 pm

cksdayoff wrote:
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XtremeDunkz wrote:Cowherd = Skip without the screaming.


Cowherd’s opinions don’t mean much to me, but intelligence wise, and ability to make an argument wise, he is a master of his craft. Bayless isn’t even in his galaxy as an intellect.


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that just means simmons and embiid were a bust in their first years as well :lol:


He has plenty of opinions that I don’t agree with, but I’m a big fan of him as a radio commentator.

I love hearing his take on most subjects, and I am just a fan of conversation, and argument, and he is excellent at that stuff. I think he is the best that I have ever heard of all of the sports radio guys actually.


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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion II 

Post#1438 » by LloydFree » Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:49 pm

cksdayoff wrote:
LloydFree wrote:
cksdayoff wrote:
you seriously think i would make stuff up in this forum that could easily be searched on youtube?

Maybe I missed that part and you got that quote from an interview that I didn't see. I saw his most recent interview he said that scouts were concerned that Ball wasn't vocal enough at the PG position to be "great", but everyone he talked to still believes he will be "good". I didn't hear anything about he should have been picked 6-10, or that the Lakers shouldn't have picked him or that his father fooled the Lakers into taking him. Like I said, you may have seen a different interview, but I find it hard to believe, because Chris Brussard doesn't even talk negatively about players like that.


im kinda offended that you would think i would make something or anything up around here. broussard appears on cowherd’s show like every other day. look, i was pretty shocked to see him backtrack like that because it makes him look pathetic, when i get home from work ill look for the interview and post it. but believe me if u can when i say that im mot making this up lol

Sorry for offending you. This is off-topic anyway. Did Brussard and Cowherd have anything to say about Markelle Fultz?
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion II 

Post#1439 » by Unbreakable99 » Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:58 pm

Cowherd is a blowhard. He knows how to tweak people and fanbases. He’s a clown and a troll. He said during preseason Simmons is just like Ball but can’t score as well. I know I heard it. I looked up old podcasts but there aren’t full episodes and I can’t find it but trust me he said that.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion II 

Post#1440 » by Mrcrockpots » Fri Nov 17, 2017 2:12 pm

Brett Brown was just on 975. Just guessing but it really sounds like Fultz will be out for another few weeks.

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