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Post#301 » by TheBrooklynKidd » Sat Nov 25, 2017 6:43 am

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Bruh I don't want to trade Harris. I mean I'd think about it but I want to keep him. He's Kyle Korver, footwork is unbelievable. We got him from the D LEAGUE. I'd extend him.

Philly wants to make Okafor suffer. It's personal wit them. While I get how we can get him off waivers. I'm assuming they won't put him on waivers. But that's who we need. Not to mention it'd draw more fans since Duke fans travel. But that's a whole other discussion.

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Agreed I dont want to trade Harris unless its really worth it, I doubt we'd get fair value.

The one trade I thought of for Okafor that I would do is something like:
Acy, 2021 2nd Rounder for Okafor and Houstons 2018 2nd Rounder

Houstons 2nd will most likely be in the late 50s and you could almost guarantee that our 2nd in 2021 wont be that low so they hypothetically get some value here. I wouldnt give a 2nd rounder straight up for him in our position.

I think we would get fair value. But it's just hard to find those type of guys.

I would too. I don't think they want to.

Let me ask you a question. I've been watching a lot of G Leaguers. What do you think about James Young? would he make it ok to trade a Joe Harris?





Keep in mind, this is how we got DinWiddie and Harris. By scouting that developmental league. Ideally I'd want to trade Skillz.


If youre asking if i think he can fill Harris' role then its a definite no. He's nowhere near the shooter Harris is. I'd be willing to give him a try if we had an open roster spot but we dont have one right now and honestly if we did I dont think we'd use it on a 2-guard.

I dont think I'd get rid of Skilz for him either. Kilpatrick is just such a great teammate that I dont think the upgrade to Young would be worth losing him. Honestly Young probably isnt an upgrade over Kilpatrick anyway.

If I'm trading Harris I'm looking for a late 1st, anything less isnt worth it my opinion. Also I dont think you could even get a 2nd for Kilpatrick unfortunately, he wouldnt even be getting minutes on our roster if it wasnt for injuries.

If youre trying to predict who Marks' next pick up is then good luck. He almost never goes for the big name guy putting up numbers in the d-league and I bet most people on this board didnt even know who Joe Harris was before Marks got him, I know I didnt. I also only knew who Dinwiddie was because he had such a memorable name. With Harris and Dinwiddie Marks saw the potential for them to develop into specific role players. Except Dinwiddie forgot that he was just supposed to be a role player :lol: . Idk what specific role Young would fill or where he would get minutes on this team.

My best guess is that Marks is looking for a stretch 4. God knows this team needs one.
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Post#302 » by LKIRNets » Sat Nov 25, 2017 6:55 am

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Agreed I dont want to trade Harris unless its really worth it, I doubt we'd get fair value.

The one trade I thought of for Okafor that I would do is something like:
Acy, 2021 2nd Rounder for Okafor and Houstons 2018 2nd Rounder

Houstons 2nd will most likely be in the late 50s and you could almost guarantee that our 2nd in 2021 wont be that low so they hypothetically get some value here. I wouldnt give a 2nd rounder straight up for him in our position.

I think we would get fair value. But it's just hard to find those type of guys.

I would too. I don't think they want to.

Let me ask you a question. I've been watching a lot of G Leaguers. What do you think about James Young? would he make it ok to trade a Joe Harris?





Keep in mind, this is how we got DinWiddie and Harris. By scouting that developmental league. Ideally I'd want to trade Skillz.


If youre asking if i think he can fill Harris' role then its a definite no. He's nowhere near the shooter Harris is. I'd be willing to give him a try if we had an open roster spot but we dont have one right now and honestly if we did I dont think we'd use it on a 2-guard.

I dont think I'd get rid of Skilz for him either. Kilpatrick is just such a great teammate that I dont think the upgrade to Young would be worth losing him. Honestly Young probably isnt an upgrade over Kilpatrick anyway.

If I'm trading Harris I'm looking for a late 1st, anything less isnt worth it my opinion. Also I dont think you could even get a 2nd for Kilpatrick unfortunately, he wouldnt even be getting minutes on our roster if it wasnt for injuries.

If youre trying to predict who Marks' next pick up is then good luck. He almost never goes for the big name guy putting up numbers in the d-league and I bet most people on this board didnt even know who Joe Harris was before Marks got him, I know I didnt. I also only knew who Dinwiddie was because he had such a memorable name. With Harris and Dinwiddie Marks saw the potential for them to develop into specific role players. Except Dinwiddie forgot that he was just supposed to be a role player :lol: . Idk what specific role Young would fill or where he would get minutes on this team.

My best guess is that Marks is looking for a stretch 4. God knows this team needs one.


Oh I'm not trading Harris for him.

What I mean is if we trade Harris for value and pick up James Young, who's btw shooting 51% from 3 in the G League (Harris shot 32% when we got him). Is 2 years younger, more athletic, and plays defense, does it soften the blow of losing a Joe Harris who plenty of teams will want by the NBA trade deadline?
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Post#303 » by TheBrooklynKidd » Sat Nov 25, 2017 7:06 am

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LKIRNets wrote:I think we would get fair value. But it's just hard to find those type of guys.

I would too. I don't think they want to.

Let me ask you a question. I've been watching a lot of G Leaguers. What do you think about James Young? would he make it ok to trade a Joe Harris?





Keep in mind, this is how we got DinWiddie and Harris. By scouting that developmental league. Ideally I'd want to trade Skillz.


If youre asking if i think he can fill Harris' role then its a definite no. He's nowhere near the shooter Harris is. I'd be willing to give him a try if we had an open roster spot but we dont have one right now and honestly if we did I dont think we'd use it on a 2-guard.

I dont think I'd get rid of Skilz for him either. Kilpatrick is just such a great teammate that I dont think the upgrade to Young would be worth losing him. Honestly Young probably isnt an upgrade over Kilpatrick anyway.

If I'm trading Harris I'm looking for a late 1st, anything less isnt worth it my opinion. Also I dont think you could even get a 2nd for Kilpatrick unfortunately, he wouldnt even be getting minutes on our roster if it wasnt for injuries.

If youre trying to predict who Marks' next pick up is then good luck. He almost never goes for the big name guy putting up numbers in the d-league and I bet most people on this board didnt even know who Joe Harris was before Marks got him, I know I didnt. I also only knew who Dinwiddie was because he had such a memorable name. With Harris and Dinwiddie Marks saw the potential for them to develop into specific role players. Except Dinwiddie forgot that he was just supposed to be a role player :lol: . Idk what specific role Young would fill or where he would get minutes on this team.

My best guess is that Marks is looking for a stretch 4. God knows this team needs one.


Oh I'm not trading Harris for him.

What I mean is if we trade Harris for value and pick up James Young, who's btw shooting 51% from 3 in the G League (Harris shot 32% when we got him). Is 2 years younger, more athletic, and plays defense, does it soften the blow of losing a Joe Harris who plenty of teams will want by the NBA trade deadline?


I wasnt suggesting that, we cant trade Harris for Young, hes not in the NBA lol.

I dont think G-League stats mean anything. 4 years ago Tyshawn Taylor and Tornike Shengalia tore up the D-League (like REALLY tore it up, 40/20 games, triple doubles and the lot) and both are now overseas. Any sort of G-League scouting I imagine is very visual and trying to envision that players role in the NBA. Idk if James Young has a role on this team and he's not gonna come off screens and square up like Harris. If Marks were to pick someone up I doubt it would be Young. He's just the hot name right now and has a lot of freedom to jack up shots in the D-League. So no I wouldnt say it would soften the blow.
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Post#304 » by LKIRNets » Sat Nov 25, 2017 7:21 am

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I dont think G-League stats mean anything. 4 years ago Tyshawn Taylor and Tornike Shengalia tore up the D-League (like REALLY tore it up, 40/20 games, triple doubles and the lot) and both are now overseas. Any sort of G-League scouting I imagine is very visual and trying to envision that players role in the NBA. Idk if James Young has a role on this team and he's not gonna come off screens and square up like Harris. If Marks were to pick someone up I doubt it would be Young. He's just the hot name right now and has a lot of freedom to jack up shots in the D-League. So no I wouldnt say it would soften the blow.


I think this was different type of players in that league. The league has improved since then. Covington is perfect example of that.

Joe Harris was where James Young is right now.


James Young improved his footwork, can go off dribble, is coming off screens. His form is also effortless. So I choose to disagree here. I don't think Young is just a hot name. I think Young is developing in front of our eyes.
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Post#305 » by TheBrooklynKidd » Sat Nov 25, 2017 7:36 am

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I dont think G-League stats mean anything. 4 years ago Tyshawn Taylor and Tornike Shengalia tore up the D-League (like REALLY tore it up, 40/20 games, triple doubles and the lot) and both are now overseas. Any sort of G-League scouting I imagine is very visual and trying to envision that players role in the NBA. Idk if James Young has a role on this team and he's not gonna come off screens and square up like Harris. If Marks were to pick someone up I doubt it would be Young. He's just the hot name right now and has a lot of freedom to jack up shots in the D-League. So no I wouldnt say it would soften the blow.


I think this was different type of players in that league. The league has improved since then. Covington is perfect example of that.

Joe Harris was where James Young is right now.


James Young improved his footwork, can go off dribble, is coming off screens. His form is also effortless. So I choose to disagree here. I don't think Young is just a hot name. I think Young is developing in front of our eyes.


Well it happens every year. Last year Russ Smith put up 65 and no one cared. Hes now in China. He also had less of a chance to prove himself than Young.

I dont see it with Young. Even in that one highlight video you can see harris' ability to square up in almost any situation and shoot DEEP 3s. Also Young had a pretty extensive tryout in the NBA on a good organization with a great coach and... he sucked. Harris' ability to pull up off of screens and set his feet is elite and you could see it then all he needed to do was up the percentages and stats. Young is the opposite hes putting up big stats but doesnt show anything that you can point to and be like "yea he can do that at a high level on an NBA floor right now". He was an all around mediocre player in the NBA and I watched him a lot on the Celtics and from those highlights he looks exactly the same hes just playing against immeasurably worse competition and has a green light.
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Post#306 » by DeRoma » Sun Nov 26, 2017 9:45 pm

Joe Harris, Caris LeVert, Spencer Dinwiddie for DeAndre Jordan? Thoughts?
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Post#307 » by Prokorov » Sun Nov 26, 2017 11:10 pm

DeRoma wrote:Joe Harris, Caris LeVert, Spencer Dinwiddie for DeAndre Jordan? Thoughts?


that doesnt come close to working under the cap. those three guys combined to make like 5 or 6 million. jordan makes 23 million. we;d be over the cap so salaries would need to match.

i dont hate the deal if we can clear mozgov. but they wouldnt do that then
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Post#308 » by LKIRNets » Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:03 am

Looking for teams in sell mode is the only thing I could see.

The Clippers really don't have anything we want, other than Willie Reed or Montrezl Harrell. I don't think we should go anywhere near DeAndre.
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Post#309 » by TheBrooklynKidd » Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:58 am

I really hope that the Sixers cut Okafor. If they do we’re guaranteed to get him.

Should we cut Kilpatrick or Acy?
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Post#310 » by shakendfries » Mon Nov 27, 2017 12:34 pm

I’d take a flyer on Bryce Johnson from the Clippers. Dude practically walked into 20 pts & 10 reb at UNC. Given what the staff has been able to do with Dinwiddie& Harris, I’d love to see if Johnson could thrive in Brooklyn


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Post#311 » by Prokorov » Mon Nov 27, 2017 12:37 pm

TheBrooklynKidd wrote:I really hope that the Sixers cut Okafor. If they do we’re guaranteed to get him.

Should we cut Kilpatrick or Acy?


i want no part of okafor. horrible fit here. we dont need to go back to a 1 way offensive big and we dont need lazy players in this locker room.

i wouldnt take him even if he was cut. id much rather have acy or kilpatrick
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Post#312 » by kamaze » Mon Nov 27, 2017 1:11 pm

shakendfries wrote:I’d take a flyer on Bryce Johnson from the Clippers. Dude practically walked into 20 pts & 10 reb at UNC. Given what the staff has been able to do with Dinwiddie& Harris, I’d love to see if Johnson could thrive in Brooklyn


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Post#313 » by TheBrooklynKidd » Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:04 pm

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TheBrooklynKidd wrote:I really hope that the Sixers cut Okafor. If they do we’re guaranteed to get him.

Should we cut Kilpatrick or Acy?


i want no part of okafor. horrible fit here. we dont need to go back to a 1 way offensive big and we dont need lazy players in this locker room.

i wouldnt take him even if he was cut. id much rather have acy or kilpatrick


I don’t think he’s a horrible fit here at all I think he could be a fantastic fit. Despite all his flaws he’s still a incredibly versatile offensive player. I think he’d be great in the pick and roll and attacking off the dribble in our motion offense. A big body to set picks, huge hands for creative handoffs and other passes. He even has a mid range jumper that could potentially be stretched out to the 3 with Atkinson.

It would be really dumb if a team like us looking for Center help and still in asset acquisition mode decided not to pick up a 21 year old incredibly skilled offensive big off waivers.

He would be one part of our big man rotation and he’s a FA so we lose nothing except the DPE which is extremely limited anyway and Kilpatrick/Acy who are 28 year old bench scrubs on 1 year deals. I’ve never heard anything about him being lazy but I do know that he’s in the worst situation for a top 3 pick that I’ve seen since Darko and he’s much more skilled than Darko. He should’ve been pouting and mailing it in but instead he’s out there working every day and lost 20 pounds over the off season.

The kid deserves a chance and who’s better to give him that chance than us.
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Post#314 » by LKIRNets » Mon Nov 27, 2017 6:17 pm

Prokorov wrote:
TheBrooklynKidd wrote:I really hope that the Sixers cut Okafor. If they do we’re guaranteed to get him.

Should we cut Kilpatrick or Acy?


i want no part of okafor. horrible fit here. we dont need to go back to a 1 way offensive big and we dont need lazy players in this locker room.

i wouldnt take him even if he was cut. id much rather have acy or kilpatrick

Prok. Okafor hasn't been playing to his ability b/c management changed in Philly. They want him out but on their terms.

You're insane if you don't want Jahlil Okafor. Did you forget offensively what that guy is capable of?

drop step swoosh, turn around top of the key, screen n' pop, alley finisher. Post kick out. You see Embiid's footwork on offense? Jahlil's is way better, but he has grown frustrated and locked out in Philly. If the Nets see an opportunity, I'd think they'd be smart enough to get him.
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Post#315 » by TheNetsFan » Mon Nov 27, 2017 9:31 pm

Trading anything of value for Okafor makes little sense. If he comes in and plays well, you're handcuffed to what his option would have been as the limit of what you can offer to keep him. You'd lose him to a MLE offer or better. If you trade for him & he stinks up the joint, you've traded away something for nothing.
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Post#316 » by shakendfries » Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:25 pm

WHO HAS THE CLIPPERS 1st?

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Post#317 » by TheNetsFan » Wed Nov 29, 2017 1:03 am

shakendfries wrote:WHO HAS THE CLIPPERS 1st?

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They do, but since their 2019 is traded already, they can't trade 2018 until draft night.
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Post#318 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Nov 29, 2017 1:48 am

they need to cut bait and start having a fire sale imo. i'd can doc rivers too in the process
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Post#319 » by Ror1997 » Wed Nov 29, 2017 2:40 am

MrDollarBills wrote:they need to cut bait and start having a fire sale imo. i'd can doc rivers too in the process


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Post#320 » by DeRoma » Thu Nov 30, 2017 3:06 am

What do you guys think of Mozgov for Parsons and top 3 protected 2019

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