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Re: #11 UCF Football (11-0): Vs Memphis 

Post#201 » by UCFJayBird » Sun Nov 26, 2017 9:16 pm

EasternMagic wrote:
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EasternMagic wrote:Sumlin and Leach have supposedly been mentioned as Nebraska potentials as well.



Nebraska fans would doubtfully ever embrace Leach.

Sumlin had many issues at TAM, chased away three highly recruited QB’s in the same year. He’s a good coach, but is a retread at this time.

Nebraska is DESPERATE.

That’s why I think Frost is going there. It won’t be about the money/security. It’s about the rescue of the program and their G5 status.

I hope he stays, but .....

Brandon Helwig all but said Frost is going to Nebraska in his last post. I guess it's time to start thinking about who his replacement should be.


That’s not what he said at all. And be careful posting dungeon info outside. Got suspended a few years ago for that. :-p


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Re: #11 UCF Football (11-0): Vs Memphis 

Post#202 » by EasternMagic » Sun Nov 26, 2017 9:17 pm

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craig01 wrote:

Nebraska fans would doubtfully ever embrace Leach.

Sumlin had many issues at TAM, chased away three highly recruited QB’s in the same year. He’s a good coach, but is a retread at this time.

Nebraska is DESPERATE.

That’s why I think Frost is going there. It won’t be about the money/security. It’s about the rescue of the program and their G5 status.

I hope he stays, but .....

Brandon Helwig all but said Frost is going to Nebraska in his last post. I guess it's time to start thinking about who his replacement should be.


That’s not what he said at all. And be careful posting dungeon info outside. Got suspended a few years ago for that. :-p


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Thanks for the heads up. I suppose I read into the tone a bit, but I won't say anything more in order to respect the dungeon.
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Re: #11 UCF Football (11-0): Vs Memphis 

Post#203 » by craig01 » Sun Nov 26, 2017 10:08 pm

UCFJayBird wrote:
EasternMagic wrote:
craig01 wrote:

Nebraska fans would doubtfully ever embrace Leach.

Sumlin had many issues at TAM, chased away three highly recruited QB’s in the same year. He’s a good coach, but is a retread at this time.

Nebraska is DESPERATE.

That’s why I think Frost is going there. It won’t be about the money/security. It’s about the rescue of the program and their P5 status.

I hope he stays, but .....

Brandon Helwig all but said Frost is going to Nebraska in his last post. I guess it's time to start thinking about who his replacement should be.


That’s not what he said at all. And be careful posting dungeon info outside. Got suspended a few years ago for that. :-p


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Re: #11 UCF Football (11-0): Vs Memphis 

Post#204 » by craig01 » Sun Nov 26, 2017 10:08 pm

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EasternMagic wrote:Sumlin and Leach have supposedly been mentioned as Nebraska potentials as well.



Nebraska fans would doubtfully ever embrace Leach.

Sumlin had many issues at TAM, chased away three highly recruited QB’s in the same year. He’s a good coach, but is a retread at this time.

Nebraska is DESPERATE.

That’s why I think Frost is going there. It won’t be about the money/security. It’s about the rescue of the program and their P5 status.

I hope he stays, but .....
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Re: #11 UCF Football (11-0): Vs Memphis 

Post#205 » by EasternMagic » Sun Nov 26, 2017 10:18 pm

craig01 wrote:
craig01 wrote:
EasternMagic wrote:Sumlin and Leach have supposedly been mentioned as Nebraska potentials as well.



Nebraska fans would doubtfully ever embrace Leach.

Sumlin had many issues at TAM, chased away three highly recruited QB’s in the same year. He’s a good coach, but is a retread at this time.

Nebraska is DESPERATE.

That’s why I think Frost is going there. It won’t be about the money/security. It’s about the rescue of the program and their P5 status.

I hope he stays, but .....

This is Craig's way of saying goodbye
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Re: #11 UCF Football (11-0): Vs Memphis 

Post#206 » by craig01 » Sun Nov 26, 2017 10:43 pm

Lol. Didn't realize I did the multiple posts.

Keeping my fingers crossed that a miracle happens and Frost stays.
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Re: #11 UCF Football (11-0): Vs Memphis 

Post#207 » by UCF » Sun Nov 26, 2017 10:54 pm

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Keeping my fingers crossed that a miracle happens and Frost stays.


Same. If he does leave I’m glad it won’t be to Florida. The Arizona State job opening up has me nervous since that’s where his wife is from.
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Re: #11 UCF Football (11-0): Vs Memphis 

Post#208 » by craig01 » Sun Nov 26, 2017 11:30 pm

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Keeping my fingers crossed that a miracle happens and Frost stays.


Same. If he does leave I’m glad it won’t be to Florida. The Arizona State job opening up has me nervous since that’s where his wife is from.


I still think it's only Nebraska he would seriously consider at this time.

I would have also hated him going to UF.
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Re: #11 UCF Football (11-0): Vs Memphis 

Post#209 » by Optimus_Steel » Mon Nov 27, 2017 1:56 am

Don't think Frost is leaving. He'll flirt but he wont leave.

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Re: #11 UCF Football (11-0): Vs Memphis 

Post#210 » by BadMofoPimp » Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:33 am

Give him a good raise and he may stay.
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Re: #11 UCF Football (11-0): Vs Memphis 

Post#211 » by EasternMagic » Mon Nov 27, 2017 3:25 am

BadMofoPimp wrote:Give him a good raise and he may stay.

We have the highest raise we can give him on the table. There is nothing else we can do.

Reddit guys are saying White gave him an ultimatum: Yes or no within 24 hours. That should make tomorrow's 1PM press conference very interesting.
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Re: #11 UCF Football (11-0): Vs Memphis 

Post#212 » by tiderulz » Mon Nov 27, 2017 1:29 pm

EasternMagic wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:Give him a good raise and he may stay.

We have the highest raise we can give him on the table. There is nothing else we can do.

Reddit guys are saying White gave him an ultimatum: Yes or no within 24 hours. That should make tomorrow's 1PM press conference very interesting.


you guys have GOT to get into a conference with a path to the playoffs. Sell your soul, do whatever it takes. Convince the Big12 to let you in, convince the ACC to fully add ND and you guys for their conference, something. that will help keep a good coach at UCF. Otherwise they will always look to go somewhere to have a chance to win a title.
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Re: #11 UCF Football (11-0): Vs Memphis 

Post#213 » by EasternMagic » Mon Nov 27, 2017 1:37 pm

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EasternMagic wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:Give him a good raise and he may stay.

We have the highest raise we can give him on the table. There is nothing else we can do.

Reddit guys are saying White gave him an ultimatum: Yes or no within 24 hours. That should make tomorrow's 1PM press conference very interesting.


you guys have GOT to get into a conference with a path to the playoffs. Sell your sell, do whatever it takes. Convince the Big12 to let you in, convince the ACC to fully add ND and you guys for their conference, something. that will help keep a good coach at UCF. Otherwise they will always look to go somewhere to have a chance to win a title.

Yup. 100% agree. That’s why I think we need to jockey for the Big 12. It makes the most immediate sense for both UCF and USF. I wish Frost would stick around to help make it happen because he could certainly expedite it.


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Re: #11 UCF Football (11-0): Vs Memphis 

Post#214 » by UCFJayBird » Mon Nov 27, 2017 3:25 pm

I wish some donor would come in and be like "I'll cover the additional $3m a year" until we get into the P5. :P
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Re: #11 UCF Football (11-0): Vs Memphis 

Post#215 » by UCF » Mon Nov 27, 2017 3:53 pm

Not sure what not more we can do to “prove” we belong in the P5 after this season proving our 0-12 season was a fluke. It’ll happen if the $$$ makes sense. With TV revenue decline I just don’t see it happening. The goal now is to leave the other lower leagues in our wake and this year was awesome in that quest. Navy, USF, Memphis and UCF have all been ranked.
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Re: #11 UCF Football (11-0): Vs Memphis 

Post#216 » by UCF » Mon Nov 27, 2017 6:28 pm

After listening to Frost’s press conference I’m a bit depressed. Didn’t sound or look like a guy thrilled to be taking questions on his future. He commented on being from Nebraska and being hurt if he wasn’t being considered since he’s from there. Ugh
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Re: #11 UCF Football (11-0): Vs Memphis 

Post#217 » by UCFJayBird » Mon Nov 27, 2017 6:51 pm

UCF wrote:After listening to Frost’s press conference I’m a bit depressed. Didn’t sound or look like a guy thrilled to be taking questions on his future. He commented on being from Nebraska and being hurt if he wasn’t being considered since he’s from there. Ugh


I'm still under the mindset that I don't think Frost knows yet. I think he is TORN about what to do. I think Nebraska is his dream job, he wants to go there and be their coach. He wasn't expecting to have the opportunity so soon, and he's torn. In his press conference he said the following things:

  • It would be hard for him to leave this group of guys right now
  • He would be surprised if he wasn't a candidate for Nebraska after the year we're having and him being from there
  • He's a loyal guy, loyal to his family, friends, coaching staff, players, alma mater, etc

I think at the beginning of the presser you could see his emotions. He really wants this week to be about the players, but he knows the questions are there and I think he just hasn't made up his mind. Some of the rivals guys are reading into it pretty heavily, because he would refer to UCF kind of in the 3rd person, but then other times he'd say "we". And personally I think that's just how he talks, I do the same for my company, sometimes I say "we" sometimes I refer to the company separately.

I think Frost wants to stay and finish what he started with this group of players, but he also wants to coach at Nebraska. Maybe he's worried if he doesn't go now, Nebraska finds a great coach that's successful and there for the long haul and he misses his chance. That's unlikely, given how coaching goes these days, but IMO i'm betting that's his mindset, i know it'd be mine.
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Re: #11 UCF Football (11-0): Vs Memphis 

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Re: #11 UCF Football (11-0): Vs Memphis 

Post#219 » by Optimus_Steel » Mon Nov 27, 2017 8:08 pm

UCF wrote:After listening to Frost’s press conference I’m a bit depressed. Didn’t sound or look like a guy thrilled to be taking questions on his future. He commented on being from Nebraska and being hurt if he wasn’t being considered since he’s from there. Ugh



I wouldnt jump the gun yet, he has been getting asked constantly for the past month about his future and he is probably fed up with it as well as he is probably torned. I dont think he leaves right now, he can go to Nebraska almost any time he wants.
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Re: #11 UCF Football (11-0): Vs Memphis 

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