Porzingis thread #4: The KP era is upon us

HEZI · Post #1521 » by **HEZI** » Fri Nov 24, 2017 4:50 pm

Wolfgang630 wrote:Towns is near 55% and this is why people have turned on him.

That's still not bad. He's being asked to defend over 6 attempts and he's still doing a better job at it than guys like Marc Gasol, Al Hordord, Clint Capela, Robin Lopez, Marcin Gortat, Andre Drummond, just to name a few.

Wolfgang630 · Post #1522 » by **Wolfgang630** » Fri Nov 24, 2017 4:59 pm

HEZI wrote:
Wolfgang630 wrote:Towns is near 55% and this is why people have turned on him.

That's still not bad. He's being asked to defend over 6 attempts and he's still doing a better job at it than guys like Marc Gasol, Al Hordord, Clint Capela, Robin Lopez, Marcin Gortat, Andre Drummond, just to name a few.

Tbf this is only one defensive stat. I think DRTG? was another stat that showed him on and off with Minnesota.

Also, there are very high expectations for hmm compared to those other guys considering he was being compared to Tim Duncan.

HEZI · Post #1523 » by **HEZI** » Fri Nov 24, 2017 5:24 pm

Wolfgang630 wrote:
HEZI wrote:
Wolfgang630 wrote:Towns is near 55% and this is why people have turned on him.

That's still not bad. He's being asked to defend over 6 attempts and he's still doing a better job at it than guys like Marc Gasol, Al Hordord, Clint Capela, Robin Lopez, Marcin Gortat, Andre Drummond, just to name a few.

Tbf this is only one defensive stat. I think DRTG? was another stat that showed him on and off with Minnesota.

Also, there are very high expectations for hmm compared to those other guys considering he was being compared to Tim Duncan.

These DRTG numbers are not dependable imo. They just estimate points allowed per 100 possessions and whatnot. That chart is more dependable because it give you the average number of fields goal attempts defended and then the percentage of those field goal attempts. Very simple and based on fact. Not an estimate based on advanced calculations in what if scenarios.

As far as the Tim Duncan comparison and what expectations were placed on Towns, it's kind of irrelevant to hold them to the same standards considering the difference in the era and how the game has evolved differently now. The amount of possessions teams have and the amount of shots team put up per game is tremendously different. Not only has the pace of the game evolved and become a lot more quicker than it ever was during Duncan's era, but the players themselves have been transformed and big men in particular have transformed. This is not to say that Duncan would still not be a better defender than what Towns is today, but he would find there to be different challenges so we don't know for certain.

Yankeeknickfan · Post #1524 » by **Yankeeknickfan** » Fri Nov 24, 2017 6:15 pm

j4remi wrote:

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Wait. The bottom is the best? Nice

EchelonNYK · Post #1525 » by **EchelonNYK** » Sat Nov 25, 2017 2:34 am

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Kurt Rambis · Post #1526 » by **Kurt Rambis** » Sat Nov 25, 2017 3:10 am

EchelonNYK wrote:

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This is from years ago.

Yankeeknickfan · Post #1527 » by **Yankeeknickfan** » Sat Nov 25, 2017 3:26 am

Nice bounce back

Marty McFly · Post #1528 » by **Marty McFly** » Sun Nov 26, 2017 9:45 pm

https://nypost.com/2017/11/26/hakeem-olajuwon-would-like-to-teach-porzingis-a-few-things/

thebuzzardman · Post #1529 » by **thebuzzardman** » Sun Nov 26, 2017 10:43 pm

Marty McFly wrote:https://nypost.com/2017/11/26/hakeem-olajuwon-would-like-to-teach-porzingis-a-few-things/

I was going to post this, but it he says "I'd like to teach him a few things" but then he goes "he doesn't need me to"

Knicksfan20 · Post #1530 » by **Knicksfan20** » Sun Nov 26, 2017 11:14 pm

Yankeeknickfan wrote:
j4remi wrote:

Read on Twitter

Wait. The bottom is the best? Nice

Look where Kanter is also. Not bad

Kurt Rambis · Post #1531 » by **Kurt Rambis** » Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:00 am

thebuzzardman wrote:
Marty McFly wrote:https://nypost.com/2017/11/26/hakeem-olajuwon-would-like-to-teach-porzingis-a-few-things/

I was going to post this, but it he says "I'd like to teach him a few things" but then he goes "he doesn't need me to"

Hakeem is better fit for smaller players. Porzingis needs to learn how to use his lenght. Kareem would be my choice for post game if he was available. Karl Malone for face up game and how to play basketball.

Actually Malone can be available because of Jeff.

thr3ep01nte4 · Post #1532 » by **thr3ep01nte4** » Mon Nov 27, 2017 8:16 am

Kurt Rambis wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
Marty McFly wrote:https://nypost.com/2017/11/26/hakeem-olajuwon-would-like-to-teach-porzingis-a-few-things/

I was going to post this, but it he says "I'd like to teach him a few things" but then he goes "he doesn't need me to"

Hakeem is better fit for smaller players. Porzingis needs to learn how to use his lenght. Kareem would be my choice for post game if he was available. Karl Malone for face up game and how to play basketball.

Actually Malone can be available because of Jeff.

Malone for how to throw elbows

thebuzzardman · Post #1533 » by **thebuzzardman** » Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:27 am

thr3ep01nte4 wrote:
Kurt Rambis wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
I was going to post this, but it he says "I'd like to teach him a few things" but then he goes "he doesn't need me to"

Hakeem is better fit for smaller players. Porzingis needs to learn how to use his lenght. Kareem would be my choice for post game if he was available. Karl Malone for face up game and how to play basketball.

Actually Malone can be available because of Jeff.

Malone for how to throw elbows

KP needs to do this a few times to get players to cut out that BS they've been doing lately. It would be worth the $ and he might get some extra rest!

Kurt Rambis · Post #1534 » by **Kurt Rambis** » Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:39 am

thr3ep01nte4 wrote:
Kurt Rambis wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
I was going to post this, but it he says "I'd like to teach him a few things" but then he goes "he doesn't need me to"

Hakeem is better fit for smaller players. Porzingis needs to learn how to use his lenght. Kareem would be my choice for post game if he was available. Karl Malone for face up game and how to play basketball.

Actually Malone can be available because of Jeff.

Malone for how to throw elbows

Actually that would help for him to create space for his shot. MAlone & Shaq was great at it.

KnickFan33 · Post #1535 » by **KnickFan33** » Mon Nov 27, 2017 3:19 pm

thr3ep01nte4 wrote:
Kurt Rambis wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
I was going to post this, but it he says "I'd like to teach him a few things" but then he goes "he doesn't need me to"

Hakeem is better fit for smaller players. Porzingis needs to learn how to use his lenght. Kareem would be my choice for post game if he was available. Karl Malone for face up game and how to play basketball.

Actually Malone can be available because of Jeff.

Malone for how to throw elbows

Let the elbow bursitis heal first. Then let the elbows fly.

Wolfgang630 · Post #1536 » by **Wolfgang630** » Mon Nov 27, 2017 3:24 pm

If Hakeem offered then KP should respond and say yes. I don’t give a **** about his height. He’s one of the best players ever and carried a team of Mom stars to a championship.

KP should hook up with Hakeem and Kareem. Ffs let him teach you the skyhook. And Jeff needs to get Malone to teach KP too.

Post #1537 » by **KnicksGod** » Tue Nov 28, 2017 12:56 am

Could KP be having sporadic back pain? That would explain dropoffs and surges.

ChaosHamster · Post #1538 » by **ChaosHamster** » Tue Nov 28, 2017 2:32 pm

thr3ep01nte4 · Post #1539 » by **thr3ep01nte4** » Tue Nov 28, 2017 4:36 pm

He needs another year to develop that fadeaway shot with one leg kicking out. That’s the shot can create separation. KP is great now but he ain’t special yet. If he wants to be that championship type of franchise player, he needs to be special like Hakeem and Dirk.

Post #1540 » by **Capn'O** » Tue Nov 28, 2017 5:04 pm

Yankeeknickfan wrote:
j4remi wrote:

Read on Twitter

Wait. The bottom is the best? Nice

Yeah - the vertical is percentage against - how low can you go :-)