12/25 - POSTGAME | Houston Rockets (107) - (112) Oklahoma City Thunder

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Player(s) of the Game

Paul George | 24 PTS (8-15 FG, 4-7 3P), 5 REB, 4 AST
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16%
Carmelo Anthony | 20 PTS (8-12, 2-4 3P), 5 REB
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19%
Steven Adams | 15 PTS (7-9 FG), 10 REB, 3 BLK
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3%
Andre Roberson | 8 PTS (3-4 FG), 4 REB, 5 AST, 3 STL
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25%
Russell Westbrook | 31 PTS (12-24 FG), 6 REB, 11 AST, 3 STL
12
38%
Jerami Grant | 9 PTS (3-6 FG), 2 REB
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Re: 12/25 - POSTGAME | Houston Rockets (107) - (112) Oklahoma City Thunder 

Post#41 » by Old Man Game » Tue Dec 26, 2017 12:33 pm

Really, really good win. Proud of them. Even Bill was good in that one.

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Post#42 » by Pillendreher » Tue Dec 26, 2017 12:46 pm

Old Man Game wrote:Even Bill was good in that one.


Barely. His hatred for Patterosn continues. Melo gets abused in the PnR and we countered with playing Grant and Huestis while Patterson didn't even crack 10 minutes. :lol:
Donovan thinks that we either have to go with a second point guard (Christon, Felton) or with 3/4 tweeners who are too slow to really guard wings (Huestis/Grant) and it's maddening. Patterson is an excellent help defender. You put him out there when you need more defense, not these scrubs.
"I don't know of any player that, when the shot goes up, he doesn't want it to go in," Donovan said
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Post#43 » by Bergmaniac » Tue Dec 26, 2017 12:57 pm

Excellent win for you guys, Roberson with amazing D on Harden as always, and the big 3 finally all looked good on offense in the same game.

Now if only Billie finally realizes that Patterson is way better than Grant and Huestis and that he's a PF, not a centre...I don't get why he hasn't even tried playing Patterson with Adams, Russ and PG13 and let Melo get plenty of minutes with the bench which badly needs more scoring.
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Post#44 » by hardenASG13 » Tue Dec 26, 2017 1:10 pm

slick_watts wrote:how can there be people who prefer huestis or abrines over roberson.


Because, some games, he doesn't make much of an impact. In those games, like any other role player, he should be benched, instead of playing 30 min. You could also ask, how can there be people who compare Russell Westbrook to baron Davis, how could someone not have seen that this team was too talented not to move right up the standings, how nobody could see how good enes kanter was, etc. On the way to that 3 seed, will be A contender come playoff time....
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Post#45 » by slick_watts » Tue Dec 26, 2017 1:41 pm

hardenASG13 wrote:Because, some games, he doesn't make much of an impact.


c'mon. sleestak is a ideologue but i know you're sharper than this. dre's impact on defense, especially this year, is massive by any objective measurement and it baffles me that subjectively there are fans that do not see this. our team is something 12 points per 100 possessions better on defense with dre in the game. that is insane! he's 8th in the entire nba in drpm. not just among sg, among all players.

hardenASG13 wrote:You could also ask, how can there be people who compare Russell Westbrook to baron Davis


he was playing bad. i call it like it is.

hardenASG13 wrote:how could someone not have seen that this team was too talented not to move right up the standings


i'm not really concerned much about the standings- are you talking about me..?

hardenASG13 wrote:how nobody could see how good enes kanter was


knicks are better when he's on the bench. all you see is points and rebounds.
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Re: 12/25 - POSTGAME | Houston Rockets (107) - (112) Oklahoma City Thunder 

Post#46 » by dakomish23 » Tue Dec 26, 2017 1:46 pm

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Dadouv47 wrote:Melo 8/12 0 turnovers and some decent defense is really impressive.


That’s twice now he’s showed up for the marquee matchup. He can’t keep this up at his age but they’ll take it when it comes.


Cant keep it up at his age? It's not like he's out there sprinting 94 feet, jumping out the gym. They're rhythm shots, timely shots and patient shots and they'll probably fall at an efficient clip going forward. Everything has been effortless the past few games.


I’m speaking in terms of a 7 game series vs HOU or GSW.

He’s not the guy he once was.
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Post#47 » by Pillendreher » Tue Dec 26, 2017 1:49 pm

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slick_watts wrote:how can there be people who prefer huestis or abrines over roberson.


Because, some games, he doesn't make much of an impact. In those games, like any other role player, he should be benched, instead of playing 30 min.


DRtG for teams currently looks like this:

Top 10: 100.8-103.8
11-20: 104.1-106.9
Botton 10: 107.1-109.0

Andre Roberson on the floor this season:

We defend like a Top 10 team: 24x (89.0 DRtG on average)
We defend like an average team: 0x
We defend like a Bottom 10 team: 8x (114.2 DRtG on average)

If there's one role player on this team who is doing his job really well on a very consistent basis, it's Roberson. He's out there to make our defense better and 75 % of the time, the defense has been at an historic level with him on the floor. That of course doesn't mean that he's the only one on this team responsible for that, but the team is clearly performing like it should be if Roberson was doing his job.
"I don't know of any player that, when the shot goes up, he doesn't want it to go in," Donovan said
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Re: 12/25 - POSTGAME | Houston Rockets (107) - (112) Oklahoma City Thunder 

Post#48 » by Dadouv47 » Tue Dec 26, 2017 1:50 pm

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That’s twice now he’s showed up for the marquee matchup. He can’t keep this up at his age but they’ll take it when it comes.


Cant keep it up at his age? It's not like he's out there sprinting 94 feet, jumping out the gym. They're rhythm shots, timely shots and patient shots and they'll probably fall at an efficient clip going forward. Everything has been effortless the past few games.


I’m speaking in terms of a 7 game series vs HOU or GSW.

He’s not the guy he once was.


I don't think playing a game every 2-3 days would be an issue for him. He won't be able to play more minutes per game comes playoff time though.
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Post#49 » by Pillendreher » Tue Dec 26, 2017 1:56 pm

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God Damn this team keeps pulling me back in. :D
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Post#50 » by Reign23 » Tue Dec 26, 2017 2:46 pm

courtney lee would be a perfect target for okc
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Post#51 » by Rotten Apple » Tue Dec 26, 2017 3:53 pm

dakomish23 wrote:
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That’s twice now he’s showed up for the marquee matchup. He can’t keep this up at his age but they’ll take it when it comes.


Cant keep it up at his age? It's not like he's out there sprinting 94 feet, jumping out the gym. They're rhythm shots, timely shots and patient shots and they'll probably fall at an efficient clip going forward. Everything has been effortless the past few games.


I’m speaking in terms of a 7 game series vs HOU or GSW.

He’s not the guy he once was.


Okay but even still not sure how it’s not sustainable. 7 game series has rest, he’s the not the main guy, he can let it come to him in the flow and has. He can literally do this every night if simply shows up focused on the task at hand. That’s how easy the game comes and has been coming lately.
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Post#52 » by Pillendreher » Tue Dec 26, 2017 4:04 pm

Rotten Apple wrote:
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Cant keep it up at his age? It's not like he's out there sprinting 94 feet, jumping out the gym. They're rhythm shots, timely shots and patient shots and they'll probably fall at an efficient clip going forward. Everything has been effortless the past few games.


I’m speaking in terms of a 7 game series vs HOU or GSW.

He’s not the guy he once was.


Okay but even still not sure how it’s not sustainable. 7 game series has rest, he’s the not the main guy, he can let it come to him in the flow and has. He can literally do this every night if simply shows up focused on the task at hand. That’s how easy the game comes and has been coming lately.


There's more to this than making shots tho. Grabbing boards, playing defense - he's not just asked to shoot.
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Post#53 » by Andre Roberstan » Tue Dec 26, 2017 4:08 pm

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Who is that guy?


Not a lot of great combo guards available for cheap. Langston Galloway maybe? But he's not really a point...he's a small 2.


Marcus Smart?


Don't think he's really available.
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Post#54 » by dakomish23 » Tue Dec 26, 2017 4:12 pm

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Cant keep it up at his age? It's not like he's out there sprinting 94 feet, jumping out the gym. They're rhythm shots, timely shots and patient shots and they'll probably fall at an efficient clip going forward. Everything has been effortless the past few games.


I’m speaking in terms of a 7 game series vs HOU or GSW.

He’s not the guy he once was.


Okay but even still not sure how it’s not sustainable. 7 game series has rest, he’s the not the main guy, he can let it come to him in the flow and has. He can literally do this every night if simply shows up focused on the task at hand. That’s how easy the game comes and has been coming lately.


He’s up and down. If he sticks to being more Olympic Melo, then I agree he can keep it up.
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Post#55 » by dakomish23 » Tue Dec 26, 2017 4:13 pm

Pillendreher wrote:
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I’m speaking in terms of a 7 game series vs HOU or GSW.

He’s not the guy he once was.


Okay but even still not sure how it’s not sustainable. 7 game series has rest, he’s the not the main guy, he can let it come to him in the flow and has. He can literally do this every night if simply shows up focused on the task at hand. That’s how easy the game comes and has been coming lately.


There's more to this than making shots tho. Grabbing boards, playing defense - he's not just asked to shoot.


Yeah but when a lot of people can’t make shots you need someone who can.

He’s far from perfect we all know that.
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Post#56 » by Pillendreher » Tue Dec 26, 2017 4:16 pm

Andre Roberstan wrote:
Dn4sty wrote:
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Not a lot of great combo guards available for cheap. Langston Galloway maybe? But he's not really a point...he's a small 2.


Marcus Smart?


Don't think he's really available.


And he's a terrible, terrible shooter. He's shooting 33.7 % on the season. :o
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Post#57 » by dakomish23 » Tue Dec 26, 2017 4:28 pm

Pillendreher wrote:
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Marcus Smart?


Don't think he's really available.


And he's a terrible, terrible shooter. He's shooting 33.7 % on the season. :o


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At least Robes knows his limitations and stays in his lane.
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Post#58 » by thekaoswithin » Tue Dec 26, 2017 7:10 pm

Bradley we might get if Detroit thinks he won't re sign at the deadline. Abrines + Heustis or something along those lines might work. I don't think any other contender would try trading for him so we won't have to hedge much on it.
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Post#59 » by Dn4sty » Tue Dec 26, 2017 8:31 pm

dakomish23 wrote:
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Don't think he's really available.


And he's a terrible, terrible shooter. He's shooting 33.7 % on the season. :o


Ghastly

At least Robes knows his limitations and stays in his lane.


Dinwiddie?
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Post#60 » by dakomish23 » Tue Dec 26, 2017 8:37 pm

thekaoswithin wrote:Bradley we might get if Detroit thinks he won't re sign at the deadline. Abrines + Heustis or something along those lines might work. I don't think any other contender would try trading for him so we won't have to hedge much on it.


That was my exact proposal.

Felton Bradley PG Patterson Adams

Westbrook Bradley Roberson Melo Grant

Those should be the two bench lineups if that deal went down.
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