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macd-gm · Post #261 » by **macd-gm** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 5:08 pm

The Celtics have played 39 games already. That's 4-6 more than almost everyone else. They've played 6 more games than the Raps. That's a beat down schedule but it also means that their second half is going to be lighter.

Spud2nique · Post #262 » by **Spud2nique** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 5:19 pm

macd-gm wrote:The Celtics have played 39 games already. That's 4-6 more than almost everyone else. They've played 6 more games than the Raps. That's a beat down schedule but it also means that their second half is going to be lighter.

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macd-gm · Post #263 » by **macd-gm** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 5:28 pm

Can Kyle box out or what? He's like iron man.

jayu70 · Post #264 » by **jayu70** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 5:44 pm

macd-gm wrote:The Celtics have played 39 games already. That's 4-6 more than almost everyone else. They've played 6 more games than the Raps. That's a beat down schedule but it also means that their second half is going to be lighter.

They are playing a game in London, they ASKED for 4 days off before and after that game. The NBA accommodated their request, so they had to adjust the schedule accordingly.

kg01 · Post #265 » by **kg01** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 6:34 pm

macd-gm wrote:The Celtics have played 39 games already. That's 4-6 more than almost everyone else. They've played 6 more games than the Raps. That's a beat down schedule but it also means that their second half is going to be lighter.

I'm playing a tiny violin for you and all the other Seees fans.

As jayu said, they requested this schedule and, in typical seeee fashion, are now complaining about it. No not just you macd, Stevens IIUC came out recently lamenting it in a thinly veiled statement or w/e.

Now I gotta log out befor macd runs me down for calling him a Seee fan.

Spud2nique · Post #266 » by **Spud2nique** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 6:44 pm

kg01 wrote:
macd-gm wrote:The Celtics have played 39 games already. That's 4-6 more than almost everyone else. They've played 6 more games than the Raps. That's a beat down schedule but it also means that their second half is going to be lighter.

I'm playing a tiny violin for you and all the other Seees fans.

As jayu said, they requested this schedule and, in typical seeee fashion, are now complaining about it. No not just you macd, Stevens IIUC came out recently lamenting it in a thinly veiled statement or w/e.

Now I gotta log out befor macd runs me down for calling him a Seee fan.

Post #267 » by **Jamaaliver** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 6:56 am

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With the emergence this season of Portis, Oubre and RHJ as consistent NBA rotation players, can we agree that the THJ trade was an unnecessary risk that didn't pay off long term?

kg01 · Post #268 » by **kg01** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 7:05 am

Jamaaliver wrote:

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With the emergence this season of Portis, Oubre and RHJ as consistent NBA rotation players, can we agree that the THJ trade was an unnecessary risk that didn't pay off long term?

No.

Post #269 » by **Jamaaliver** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 7:12 am

^Fair enough.

But knowing what you know now...would you still be in favor of doing that exact deal again?

Spud2nique · Post #270 » by **Spud2nique** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 9:36 am

Jamaaliver wrote:^Fair enough.

But knowing what you know now...would you still be in favor of doing that exact deal again?

I think it's not a fair question because we were in a different stage at the time of the deal. We were a veteran ballclub looking for a offensive punch off the pine. Granted the experiment didn't work out in the long run, we couldn't have developed Oubre quickly enough to reap any benefits from his game in the first couple of years when we would have needed him.

In all honestly, he's definitely a better player than I projected. Having said that, I really wouldn't want him on the Hawks. I'm just not that sold on the guy.

Post #271 » by **Jamaaliver** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 10:27 am

kg01 · Post #272 » by **kg01** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 3:23 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:^Fair enough.

But knowing what you know now...would you still be in favor of doing that exact deal again?

Like spud2 said, thangs done changed. So it's not really a fair question. In the position we were in, yes I'd do that deal and IMHO it worked out. We built THJ into a viable starting 2 with still some upside. None of those turds you listed are locks as starters.

Based on knowing what I know today ... yes, I'd still do it. As I said, none of them turds would start for us today so what would be the point of any of them?

Spud2nique · Post #273 » by **Spud2nique** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 3:23 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:

Dang Jamal that was cold....ok fine you're not Brad...I'm just not even sure we would have drafted Prince if we had Oubre on the roster...and yes don't kid yourself Prince is the better player now and will be in 5 years as well.

macd-gm · Post #274 » by **macd-gm** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 3:28 pm

If I'd have known that Hardaway was injured and Bud considered him not good enough on D to get in the rotation I don't know if i'd have done it. The guy was really the most skilled player on the Hawks team outside of Sap but ended up giving us just a few decent months. It was a gamble that certainly didn't pay off.

kg01 · Post #275 » by **kg01** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 3:31 pm

macd-gm wrote:If I'd have known that Hardaway was injured and Bud considered him not good enough on D to get in the rotation I don't know if i'd have done it. The guy was really the most skilled player on the Hawks team outside of Sap but ended up giving us just a few decent months. It was a gamble that certainly didn't pay off.

You'd prefer dregs like WhOubre or *gag* RHJ?

Again, like spud said, it'd likely cost us having Printz.

I mean, I get a guy not wanting to speak ill of Portis. That mofo might kick yo azz.

Post #276 » by **Jamaaliver** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 3:47 pm

macd-gm wrote:If I'd have known that Hardaway was injured and Bud considered him not good enough on D to get in the rotation I don't know if i'd have done it. The guy was really the most skilled player on the Hawks team outside of Sap but ended up giving us just a few decent months. It was a gamble that certainly didn't pay off.

Finally, a voice of reason.

If we're considering THJ's tenure an unquestionable success in a Hawk uniform... :nonono:

I don't even think Budenholzer would do that trade again.

Spud2nique · Post #277 » by **Spud2nique** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 4:02 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:
macd-gm wrote:If I'd have known that Hardaway was injured and Bud considered him not good enough on D to get in the rotation I don't know if i'd have done it. The guy was really the most skilled player on the Hawks team outside of Sap but ended up giving us just a few decent months. It was a gamble that certainly didn't pay off.

Finally, a voice of reason.

If we're considering THJ's tenure an unquestionable success in a Hawk uniform...

I don't even think Budenholzer would do that trade again.

Oh are we playing Monday morning quarterback here? Hindsight is always 20/20 my friend. Timmy didn't workout like the supposed fresh donut isn't working out in my stomach.

kg01 · Post #278 » by **kg01** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 4:58 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:
macd-gm wrote:If I'd have known that Hardaway was injured and Bud considered him not good enough on D to get in the rotation I don't know if i'd have done it. The guy was really the most skilled player on the Hawks team outside of Sap but ended up giving us just a few decent months. It was a gamble that certainly didn't pay off.

Finally, a voice of reason.

If we're considering THJ's tenure an unquestionable success in a Hawk uniform...

I don't even think Budenholzer would do that trade again.

It's one thing to say you wouldn't do the deal again cause you don't think it worked out.

It's quite another thing to say you wouldn't do the deal again cause we coulda had them super-great crap bags like WhOubre or RHJ.

Post #279 » by **Jamaaliver** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 6:01 pm

kg01 wrote:It's one thing to say you wouldn't do the deal again cause you don't think it worked out.

It's quite another thing to say you wouldn't do the deal again cause we coulda had them super-great crap bags like WhOubre or RHJ.

I'm saying, we had way more options than just those things:

Jamaaliver wrote:We had numerous options at #15 in the draft.
Wilcox said the Hawks had eight or nine offers for the 15th pick. Once the Thunder selected Murray State point guard Cameron Payne at No. 14, the Hawks decided to move back and then eventually acquire Hardaway.

We had numerous options at #19 in the draft.
Budenholzer said the Hawks were never close to moving up in the draft but got several offers once they traded down to the 19th pick.
HERE

I'm not sure a more experienced GM couldn't have gotten more by playing multiple teams against each other, having so many options on the table.

Jamaal in 2015

jayu70 · Post #280 » by **jayu70** » Tue Jan 2, 2018 4:14 pm

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