Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread (Part 2)

[jayu70]

How about this?

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yakd7ggl

Are picks involved to us?
Otherwise this is a straight salary dump of Bazemore. Bradley is a FA, I doubt he resigns here. McDermott is a RFA, no guarantee some team doesn't overspend for him. That leaves us with just Luer and his $10 mil for 2 more years.

As I mentioned before Detroit is an interesting trade partner. I checked out their boards regarding Bradley, some don't think they should resign him (injury prone, so the defense that made him special is an issue) some want to trade him since he might not resign.
Bazemore would be a decent fit (a few asked if he was available). I did a player comparison of their stats this season, very close. Baze is a year older, they think Bradley will be looking for a contract starting in the $20 mil range.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.fcgi?request=1&sum=0&player_id1_hint=Kent+Bazemore&player_id1_select=Kent+Bazemore&y1=2018&player_id1=bazemke01&idx=players&player_id2_hint=Avery+Bradley&player_id2_select=Avery+Bradley&y2=2018&player_id2=bradlav01&idx=players

I'd take their smaller bad contracts plus Stanley Johnson and their 2018 first.

Ideally, I'd like these 1sts to combine with another young player to move up in the draft like the Jazz did with Lyles to get Mitchell.

[Spud2nique]

How about this?

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yakd7ggl

Are picks involved to us?
Otherwise this is a straight salary dump of Bazemore. Bradley is a FA, I doubt he resigns here. McDermott is a RFA, no guarantee some team doesn't overspend for him. That leaves us with just Luer and his $10 mil for 2 more years.

As I mentioned before Detroit is an interesting trade partner. I checked out their boards regarding Bradley, some don't think they should resign him (injury prone, so the defense that made him special is an issue) some want to trade him since he might not resign.
Bazemore would be a decent fit (a few asked if he was available). I did a player comparison of their stats this season, very close. Baze is a year older, they think Bradley will be looking for a contract starting in the $20 mil range.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.fcgi?request=1&sum=0&player_id1_hint=Kent+Bazemore&player_id1_select=Kent+Bazemore&y1=2018&player_id1=bazemke01&idx=players&player_id2_hint=Avery+Bradley&player_id2_select=Avery+Bradley&y2=2018&player_id2=bradlav01&idx=players

I'd take their smaller bad contracts plus Stanley Johnson and their 2018 first.

Ideally, I'd like these 1sts to combine with another young player to move up in the draft like the Jazz did with Lyles to get Mitchell.

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[dms269]

How about this?

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yakd7ggl

Are picks involved to us?
Otherwise this is a straight salary dump of Bazemore. Bradley is a FA, I doubt he resigns here. McDermott is a RFA, no guarantee some team doesn't overspend for him. That leaves us with just Luer and his $10 mil for 2 more years.

As I mentioned before Detroit is an interesting trade partner. I checked out their boards regarding Bradley, some don't think they should resign him (injury prone, so the defense that made him special is an issue) some want to trade him since he might not resign.
Bazemore would be a decent fit (a few asked if he was available). I did a player comparison of their stats this season, very close. Baze is a year older, they think Bradley will be looking for a contract starting in the $20 mil range.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.fcgi?request=1&sum=0&player_id1_hint=Kent+Bazemore&player_id1_select=Kent+Bazemore&y1=2018&player_id1=bazemke01&idx=players&player_id2_hint=Avery+Bradley&player_id2_select=Avery+Bradley&y2=2018&player_id2=bradlav01&idx=players

I'd take their smaller bad contracts plus Stanley Johnson and their 2018 first.

Ideally, I'd like these 1sts to combine with another young player to move up in the draft like the Jazz did with Lyles to get Mitchell.

Who are you saying are their bad salaries?

I think we need to start realizing that Bazemore us a bad contract. We are stuck with him for 2 more years after this one. If we are able to move him without giving up a first, it is to take either smaller 3 year deals or a worse player on a 2 year deal. We aren't convincing a team to give a first for him...he doesn't have that value.

[jayu70]

How about this?

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yakd7ggl

Are picks involved to us?
Otherwise this is a straight salary dump of Bazemore. Bradley is a FA, I doubt he resigns here. McDermott is a RFA, no guarantee some team doesn't overspend for him. That leaves us with just Luer and his $10 mil for 2 more years.

As I mentioned before Detroit is an interesting trade partner. I checked out their boards regarding Bradley, some don't think they should resign him (injury prone, so the defense that made him special is an issue) some want to trade him since he might not resign.
Bazemore would be a decent fit (a few asked if he was available). I did a player comparison of their stats this season, very close. Baze is a year older, they think Bradley will be looking for a contract starting in the $20 mil range.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.fcgi?request=1&sum=0&player_id1_hint=Kent+Bazemore&player_id1_select=Kent+Bazemore&y1=2018&player_id1=bazemke01&idx=players&player_id2_hint=Avery+Bradley&player_id2_select=Avery+Bradley&y2=2018&player_id2=bradlav01&idx=players

I'd take their smaller bad contracts plus Stanley Johnson and their 2018 first.

Ideally, I'd like these 1sts to combine with another young player to move up in the draft like the Jazz did with Lyles to get Mitchell.

Who are you saying are their bad salaries?

I think we need to start realizing that Bazemore us a bad contract. We are stuck with him for 2 more years after this one. If we are able to move him without giving up a first, it is to take either smaller 3 year deals or a worse player on a 2 year deal. We aren't convincing a team to give a first for him...he doesn't have that value.

John Luer and Boban (I'm basing that on comments from Detroit's board), since neither is contributing. They get Bazemore and Ersan. (Again basing that on some on Detroit board not wanting to keep Bradley).

[King Ken]

I saw something in that trade board while lurking about Cleveland trading their pick to get rid of TT contract. I didn't like it since it's too early to know where it's at but during the draft. I would consider a trade like that for TT. In fact, I would trade Baze's expiring for next year for TT and the CLE pick. That pick is okay but I wouldn't mind packaging it for a better pick to get someone like Miles Bridges, Jaren Jackson Jr. or Collin Sexton.

[Spud2nique]

I saw something in that trade board while lurking about Cleveland trading their pick to get rid of TT contract. I didn't like it since it's too early to know where it's at but during the draft. I would consider a trade like that for TT. In fact, I would trade Baze's expiring for next year for TT and the CLE pick. That pick is okay but I wouldn't mind packaging it for a better pick to get someone like Miles Bridges, Jaren Jackson Jr. or Collin Sexton.

Who the heck wouldn't do that deal? Tristan and his contract and the nets pick for Baze???

I'd send them flowers and a gift basket as well!

[dms269]

I saw something in that trade board while lurking about Cleveland trading their pick to get rid of TT contract. I didn't like it since it's too early to know where it's at but during the draft. I would consider a trade like that for TT. In fact, I would trade Baze's expiring for next year for TT and the CLE pick. That pick is okay but I wouldn't mind packaging it for a better pick to get someone like Miles Bridges, Jaren Jackson Jr. or Collin Sexton.

Not sure what the actual deal is since you mention Bazemore's expiring for the Cleveland pick.

I see no reason why Cleveland would give up a pick to take on a worse contract (Bazemore is going to pick up his option, would be dumb not to).

[atlantabbq99]

How about Cleveland trades the BKN pick and TT for Beli and Ilyasova...

Its basically Cleveland trades a high draft pick for cap space, so that they can sign CP3 or PG13, or DeMarcus Cousins, or DeAndre Jordan.

Cleveland also gets two very good bench guys for this year's title run.

[dms269]

There is no way that Cleveland gives up a top 10 pick just to dump TT.

[macd-gm]

How about this?

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yakd7ggl

Are picks involved to us?
Otherwise this is a straight salary dump of Bazemore. Bradley is a FA, I doubt he resigns here. McDermott is a RFA, no guarantee some team doesn't overspend for him. That leaves us with just Luer and his $10 mil for 2 more years.

As I mentioned before Detroit is an interesting trade partner. I checked out their boards regarding Bradley, some don't think they should resign him (injury prone, so the defense that made him special is an issue) some want to trade him since he might not resign.
Bazemore would be a decent fit (a few asked if he was available). I did a player comparison of their stats this season, very close. Baze is a year older, they think Bradley will be looking for a contract starting in the $20 mil range.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.fcgi?request=1&sum=0&player_id1_hint=Kent+Bazemore&player_id1_select=Kent+Bazemore&y1=2018&player_id1=bazemke01&idx=players&player_id2_hint=Avery+Bradley&player_id2_select=Avery+Bradley&y2=2018&player_id2=bradlav01&idx=players

I'd take their smaller bad contracts plus Stanley Johnson and their 2018 first.

Ideally, I'd like these 1sts to combine with another young player to move up in the draft like the Jazz did with Lyles to get Mitchell.

I think this is fair straight up. The Knicks give up almost nothing and get Baze and Babbitt which will help them tremendously. Baze is much better than anyone going out for the Knicks.

The Pistons get some great shooting from Marco which they sorely need to replace oft injured Bradley and Leuer. And they get some bench help.

The Hawks trade out Baze's $17 million for Leuer's $10 million. Huge savings and we have a chance to resign McDermott who would probably work well with Bud. But if not we've still saved a ton.

Both teams might be willing to send future seconds to us but doubtful we'd see any firsts. Baze is playing well. It's a good time to sell high.

[Spud2nique]

How about this?

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yakd7ggl

I somehow missed this one!! I saw the Bird for Stanley and the Ken with TT and the pick.

I like this one as well! Pretty smart trade all around. The highlight of the trade looks like us getting Avery Bradley but it would be "the others" in the deal that excite me. Like you mentioned Doug McBuckets and Leuer would be fabulous with us. We are essentially selling high on Baze and buying low on Jon and Doug. Two shooter BEFORE they enter Bud university. We would also have another chip in Ersan. This is an under the radar trade. The only downside would be if McDermott and Bradley played really hard due to contract years and played us out of good lottery position.

Overall : A-

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[Jamaaliver]

Is this kid worth expressing interest in?

Maybe tossing that Houston pick in as currency for a young, talented big man. Or perhaps swapping Bembry for WHG?

Knicks’ Willy Hernangomez Attracting Trade Interest

Several teams have contacted the Knicks about backup center Willy Hernangomez, according to Ian Begley on ESPN Now.

Playing time has been an issue all season for Hernangomez as Enes Kanter took over as the starting center after being acquired from Oklahoma City, leaving Kyle O’Quinn, Joakim Noah and Hernangomez to compete for the remaining minutes.

Hernangomez has only played in three of the Knicks’ last 16 games and has appeared in just 17 all season. He is averaging 9.7 minutes per night, roughly half of his playing time as a rookie last year. The teams reaching out to the Knicks believe Hernangomez still has potential based on his performance last season, when he averaged 8.0 points and 7.0 rebounds per game.

The Knicks don’t want to part with Hernangomez unless they receive a “prime talent” in return, writes Marc Berman of The New York Post. He adds that no concrete offers have been received, but the teams making inquiries have a history of pursuing European players.

Hoops Rumors


Any chance we're among the teams making inquiries?

[macd-gm]

Prime Talent? What the hell does that mean?

[Spud2nique]

Prime Talent? What the hell does that mean?

It's a company run by Deion Sanders. He only signs prime time talent....PRIME TIME!


But in all honestly I have no clue. It sounds cool though.

[Spud2nique]

WHG is a double double if given minutes...hmm..if we can get him for a low price, I'm down. It's always great to deal with the Knicks because you usually end up winning the deal..whether right away or in a few years.

[MaceCase]

Prime Talent? What the hell does that mean?

It's a company run by Deion Sanders. He only signs prime time talent....PRIME TIME!


But in all honestly I have no clue. It sounds cool though.

Still begs the question, what does Prime consider prime talent? Is the prime talent considered prime talent simply because it's Prime's talent? Or does Prime just have an eye for prime talent?

[jayu70]

Trade Season is starting off to a slow boil....per Woj.
• Market is slow right now. Sellers asking too much, buyers not desperate.
• DeAndre available—Milwaukee trying to get him, but hard to say if they have the assets.
• Detroit, New Orleans, New York & Portland all trying to upgrade their wing.
• Carroll, Burks, Fournier and Bazemore all trade targets.
• Detroit is being extremely aggressive.
• Lakers trying to move Clarkson in season. Clarkson, Randle, Nance all available.
• LA has given up on moving Deng because it would take too much.
• Atlanta trying to unload vets for picks and young players.
• Bulls trying to trade Mirotic. Mirotic very interested in Jazz (and he has a NTC due to being on his QO, so he actually has some control)
• Memphis wants a first for Reke but is unlikely to get it
• OKC planning to keep PG.
• New Orleans planning to keep DeMarcus Cousins
• Memphis (for now) planning to keep Gasol.

[Jamaaliver]

Trade Season is starting off to a slow boil....per Woj.

• Atlanta trying to unload vets for picks and young players.

Peachtree Hoops take:

The ESPN report indicates that Marco Belinelli, Ersan Ilyasova and Kent Bazemore are deemed “expendable” and even paints a picture that “teams are targeting the availability” of Bazemore despite his handsome contract. Because both Ilyasova and Belinelli are on expiring contracts, their inclusion makes sense but is not particularly noteworthy. In the case of Bazemore, though, his resurgent play could present an opportune time for Atlanta to move on from his deal.

Bazemore, in the second year of a four-year pact worth $70 million, currently boasts career-bests in PER (14.9), assist rate, true shooting percentage and steal rate while playing some of the best basketball of his career.

It is certainly fair to point out that the 28-year-old remains overpaid.

What kind of price would the Hawks be willing to pay to remove that financial commitment? What kind of price would the Hawks actually be forced to pay in order to do so? Those are open questions but, with the franchise in flux and the future dictating the present, it makes sense to listen.

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[NYG]

What are the Hawks looking for in a Bazemore deal?

[Jamaaliver]

What are the Hawks looking for in a Bazemore deal?

Salary relief.