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Jamaaliver wrote:NYG wrote:What are the Hawks looking for in a Bazemore deal?
Salary relief.
tbhawksfan1 wrote:Hawks are still in a good position to take on salary. It will take two drafts to do this thing; two drafts with high picks. That's year three before you even start to think playoffs. A fat, ugly two year deal and a pick for Baze works for me.
Why isn't Dedmon listed? He's is very likely to opt out. Shouldn't he be moved? If he isn't put on the block, you have to think there"s an agreement
NYG wrote:tbhawksfan1 wrote:Hawks are still in a good position to take on salary. It will take two drafts to do this thing; two drafts with high picks. That's year three before you even start to think playoffs. A fat, ugly two year deal and a pick for Baze works for me.
Why isn't Dedmon listed? He's is very likely to opt out. Shouldn't he be moved? If he isn't put on the block, you have to think there"s an agreement
Would an early second work as the pick in said Bazemore deal?
Bleacher ReportNBA Metrics 101: What Is the Market Value for League's Top Trade Assets?
Kent Bazemore
2017-18 Per-Game Stats: 12.4 points, 4.3 rebounds, 3.8 assists, 1.8 steals, 0.7 blocks
2017-18 Advanced Metrics: 14.6 PER, 2.37 RPM, 15.65 TPA
Kent Bazemore has played his way back into first-round-pick territory, though the Atlanta Hawks likely would have to take back a non-expiring contract in return. Such is the case for our hypothetical trade with the Denver Nuggets, who could use another defensive wing but would have to unload the remaining portion of Kenneth Faried's deal—$12,921,348 this season, then $13,764,045 next—to facilitate the transaction.
...while continuing to play beneficial defense, Bazemore has steadily increased his shooting percentages. Whereas he knocked down just 40.9 percent of his field-goal attempts, 34.6 percent of his deep tries and 70.8 percent of his shots from the charity stripe in 2016-17, he's upped his slash line to 41.5/38.8/80.2 this season. Now, the four-year, $70 million pact he inked in 2016 doesn't seem quite as unpalatable.
The Hawks still won't be able to get much value for him, however. He's owed too much money over the next two seasons (assuming he doesn't decline his 2019-20 player option) and is too mediocre as a scorer. But he has performed well enough for a rebuilding squad to make moving him a reasonable proposition.
Had Bazemore continued to struggle with his stroke, the Hawks would be the side looking to package picks with him to clear him from their books. Now, they have a chance to absorb a different salary and land an extra selection of their own.
Realistic Value, Realistic Return: Denver Nuggets trade Kenneth Faried and their 2018 first-round pick (lottery protected) to the Atlanta Hawks for Kent Bazemore.
Jamaaliver wrote:Bleacher ReportNBA Metrics 101: What Is the Market Value for League's Top Trade Assets?
Kent Bazemore
2017-18 Per-Game Stats: 12.4 points, 4.3 rebounds, 3.8 assists, 1.8 steals, 0.7 blocks
2017-18 Advanced Metrics: 14.6 PER, 2.37 RPM, 15.65 TPA
Kent Bazemore has played his way back into first-round-pick territory, though the Atlanta Hawks likely would have to take back a non-expiring contract in return. Such is the case for our hypothetical trade with the Denver Nuggets, who could use another defensive wing but would have to unload the remaining portion of Kenneth Faried's deal—$12,921,348 this season, then $13,764,045 next—to facilitate the transaction.
...while continuing to play beneficial defense, Bazemore has steadily increased his shooting percentages. Whereas he knocked down just 40.9 percent of his field-goal attempts, 34.6 percent of his deep tries and 70.8 percent of his shots from the charity stripe in 2016-17, he's upped his slash line to 41.5/38.8/80.2 this season. Now, the four-year, $70 million pact he inked in 2016 doesn't seem quite as unpalatable.
The Hawks still won't be able to get much value for him, however. He's owed too much money over the next two seasons (assuming he doesn't decline his 2019-20 player option) and is too mediocre as a scorer. But he has performed well enough for a rebuilding squad to make moving him a reasonable proposition.
Had Bazemore continued to struggle with his stroke, the Hawks would be the side looking to package picks with him to clear him from their books. Now, they have a chance to absorb a different salary and land an extra selection of their own.
Realistic Value, Realistic Return: Denver Nuggets trade Kenneth Faried and their 2018 first-round pick (lottery protected) to the Atlanta Hawks for Kent Bazemore.
tbhawksfan1 wrote:Jamaaliver wrote:Bleacher ReportRealistic Value, Realistic Return: Denver Nuggets trade Kenneth Faried and their 2018 first-round pick (lottery protected) to the Atlanta Hawks for Kent Bazemore.
Good to be reading this. Faried has two years left. For a mid-twenties to late first I'd love it. Similar to the deal talked about above, more salary, better pick. Two years does it for me.
Spud2nique wrote:Faried and the 17th pick in the draft (currently where Nuggs pick lands) for Baze? Yes!
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NYG wrote:Jamaaliver wrote:NYG wrote:What are the Hawks looking for in a Bazemore deal?
Salary relief.
Would you take Lance Thomas and expiring contracts for Kent Bazemore? Genuinely not trolling, but I would like to know if it's possible.
How does Bazemore fit with the Knicks?
I'm thinking of an O'Quinn/Sessions to Team X - Lance Thomas/Team X Expirings to Atlanta - Kent Bazemore to NY kind of deal.
Kent Bazemore has played his way back into first-round-pick territory, though the Atlanta Hawks likely would have to take back a non-expiring contract in return. Such is the case for our hypothetical trade with the Denver Nuggets, who could use another defensive wing but would have to unload the remaining portion of Kenneth Faried's deal—$12,921,348 this season, then $13,764,045 next—to facilitate the transaction.
jayu70 wrote:NYG wrote:Jamaaliver wrote:
Salary relief.
Would you take Lance Thomas and expiring contracts for Kent Bazemore? Genuinely not trolling, but I would like to know if it's possible.
How does Bazemore fit with the Knicks?
I'm thinking of an O'Quinn/Sessions to Team X - Lance Thomas/Team X Expirings to Atlanta - Kent Bazemore to NY kind of deal.
Apparently Kent Bazemore is trending up per Bleacher Report.Kent Bazemore has played his way back into first-round-pick territory, though the Atlanta Hawks likely would have to take back a non-expiring contract in return. Such is the case for our hypothetical trade with the Denver Nuggets, who could use another defensive wing but would have to unload the remaining portion of Kenneth Faried's deal—$12,921,348 this season, then $13,764,045 next—to facilitate the transaction.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2752913-nba-metrics-101-what-is-the-market-value-for-leagues-top-trade-assets
NYG wrote:jayu70 wrote:NYG wrote:
Would you take Lance Thomas and expiring contracts for Kent Bazemore? Genuinely not trolling, but I would like to know if it's possible.
How does Bazemore fit with the Knicks?
I'm thinking of an O'Quinn/Sessions to Team X - Lance Thomas/Team X Expirings to Atlanta - Kent Bazemore to NY kind of deal.
Apparently Kent Bazemore is trending up per Bleacher Report.Kent Bazemore has played his way back into first-round-pick territory, though the Atlanta Hawks likely would have to take back a non-expiring contract in return. Such is the case for our hypothetical trade with the Denver Nuggets, who could use another defensive wing but would have to unload the remaining portion of Kenneth Faried's deal—$12,921,348 this season, then $13,764,045 next—to facilitate the transaction.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2752913-nba-metrics-101-what-is-the-market-value-for-leagues-top-trade-assets
I would take that article as entertainment. I'm a Knicks fan and there's no way we're getting Kemba Walker in any deal that sends out Noah.
NYG wrote:I would take that article as entertainment. I'm a Knicks fan and there's no way we're getting Kemba Walker in any deal that sends out Noah.
Jamaaliver wrote:
All it takes is two buyers.