Stanley Johnson is bad.

[Snakebites]

Stanley Johnson is a poor player who would be out of the rotation if we had anyone better.

Heck, we might still try to roll with the Reggie/Tobias/Kennard combination at the wing when he gets back from injury. I'm inclined to think he'll find his way into the rotation anyway, as Kennard at the 3 isn't ideal defensively.

I wasn't particularly happy when we drafted him, though the guy I wanted was Justice Winslow, and he hasn't exactly set the world on fire either, albeit for different reasons.

[tmorgan]

I wasn't particularly happy when we drafted him, though the guy I wanted was Justice Winslow, and he hasn't exactly set the world on fire either, albeit for different reasons.

Actually, kinda the same reasons. Even though he's hit some threes (on low volume) this year, Justise is a good defender that's a garbage offensive player, too.

[tcj61298]

Stan’s going to prove everyone wrong and go off for 40 tonight

[BadMofoPimp]

Stan’s going to prove everyone wrong and go off for 40 tonight

I bet Stan can do it!

Watch on YouTube

[MrBigShot]

Not sure why people expect Stanley to blossom magically if he gets traded to a different team. At least with Dinwiddie he showed some really promising flashes (outplaying DRose & John Wall while starting). Stanley's gotten much more of an opportunity to prove himself and has showed essentially no improvement offensively (he's arguably regressed on that end)

SVG hasn't handled him well and in general he keeps young players on way too tight a leash but SVG isn't out there making Stanley brick jumpers and struggle to finish at the rim.

[Blkbrd671]

As a draft prospect, he wasn't known for his shooting, obviously relying on his size and strength more than his skills. This should have been a red flag. I don't think he is a total waste - good defender and will be in the league a long time as a role player. But he is not our SF of the future. And if we can throw him in a trade to get a starter, I'm all for it.

One more thing - it was always going to be a big deal to compare him and Winslow to see if we drafted the right guy or not. It seems that both of those picks were wasted. Should've trade our pick to Boston that year and got draft picks - Boston was dying to get WInslow.

If i am not mistaken i believe they actually wanted SJ or Booker. The only ppl that thought JW was the best prospect was beat writers, or chad ford. I do wonder what that package offering was .

[itsallaboutme]

The kid has talent and has shown at times he is NBA quality.. but he is just not putting together for us, we need to cut our losses and see what we can get for him and take it.

[MotownMadness]

I would love to get a outsiders opinion on what we saw tonight to confirm it

[itsallaboutme]

I would love to get a outsiders opinion on what we saw tonight to confirm it

I hope the outsiders haven't watched him play recently and still believe he can ball.

[MotownMadness]

I would love to get a outsiders opinion on what we saw tonight to confirm it

I hope the outsiders haven't watched him play recently and still believe he can ball.

SVG has probably been offering him like crazy while he was out and tonight GMs were trying to get a look at him now that he's back, ****

[thesack12]

Dude is painfully bad on offense.

At the rate he is going this season, Detroit might regret picking up his 18-19 option

[buzzkilloton]

As a draft prospect, he wasn't known for his shooting, obviously relying on his size and strength more than his skills. This should have been a red flag. I don't think he is a total waste - good defender and will be in the league a long time as a role player. But he is not our SF of the future. And if we can throw him in a trade to get a starter, I'm all for it.

One more thing - it was always going to be a big deal to compare him and Winslow to see if we drafted the right guy or not. It seems that both of those picks were wasted. Should've trade our pick to Boston that year and got draft picks - Boston was dying to get WInslow.

If i am not mistaken i believe they actually wanted SJ or Booker. The only ppl that thought JW was the best prospect was beat writers, or chad ford. I do wonder what that package offering was .

Yeah this has been reported on ESPN. Also heard it a few times from other sources. SVG actually really loved Booker and from the reports it was a 50/50 split in the Detroit warroom. We'd look alot diff if we took Booker.

I remember posting on another basketball forum right before that draft how I thought SVG was going to take Booker and I DIDNT want him. His quotes were all for Booker and how we needed shooting. I wanted Winslow or Stanley. Would of been hard to pull the trigger on Booker over all the so called "draft gurus" boards but yeah it was really a close call.

[Blkbrd671]

As a draft prospect, he wasn't known for his shooting, obviously relying on his size and strength more than his skills. This should have been a red flag. I don't think he is a total waste - good defender and will be in the league a long time as a role player. But he is not our SF of the future. And if we can throw him in a trade to get a starter, I'm all for it.

One more thing - it was always going to be a big deal to compare him and Winslow to see if we drafted the right guy or not. It seems that both of those picks were wasted. Should've trade our pick to Boston that year and got draft picks - Boston was dying to get WInslow.

If i am not mistaken i believe they actually wanted SJ or Booker. The only ppl that thought JW was the best prospect was beat writers, or chad ford. I do wonder what that package offering was .

Yeah this has been reported on ESPN. Also heard it a few times from other sources. SVG actually really loved Booker and from the reports it was a 50/50 split in the Detroit warroom. We'd look alot diff if we took Booker.

I remember posting on another basketball forum right before that draft how I thought SVG was going to take Booker and I DIDNT want him. His quotes were all for Booker and how we needed shooting. I wanted Winslow or Stanley. Would of been hard to pull the trigger on Booker over all the so called "draft gurus" boards but yeah it was really a close call.

Kilo was the only 1 on this board who was vocal about this mistake and i laid into him pretty good. Now i look like a dumba*

[Pugz]

As a draft prospect, he wasn't known for his shooting, obviously relying on his size and strength more than his skills. This should have been a red flag. I don't think he is a total waste - good defender and will be in the league a long time as a role player. But he is not our SF of the future. And if we can throw him in a trade to get a starter, I'm all for it.

One more thing - it was always going to be a big deal to compare him and Winslow to see if we drafted the right guy or not. It seems that both of those picks were wasted. Should've trade our pick to Boston that year and got draft picks - Boston was dying to get WInslow.

If i am not mistaken i believe they actually wanted SJ or Booker. The only ppl that thought JW was the best prospect was beat writers, or chad ford. I do wonder what that package offering was .

Yeah this has been reported on ESPN. Also heard it a few times from other sources. SVG actually really loved Booker and from the reports it was a 50/50 split in the Detroit warroom. We'd look alot diff if we took Booker.

I remember posting on another basketball forum right before that draft how I thought SVG was going to take Booker and I DIDNT want him. His quotes were all for Booker and how we needed shooting. I wanted Winslow or Stanley. Would of been hard to pull the trigger on Booker over all the so called "draft gurus" boards but yeah it was really a close call.

booker would not have gotten the shot he has in phoenix. hed be in the luke role.

[thesack12]

Stanley played 23.1 MPG as a rook, Luke is playing 17.3

The notion that SVG doesn't play rookies is a myth

If anything Stan is trying to get Luke more minutes by playing him at the 3, which is definitely not his ideal position.

[BadMofoPimp]

If i am not mistaken i believe they actually wanted SJ or Booker. The only ppl that thought JW was the best prospect was beat writers, or chad ford. I do wonder what that package offering was .

Yeah this has been reported on ESPN. Also heard it a few times from other sources. SVG actually really loved Booker and from the reports it was a 50/50 split in the Detroit warroom. We'd look alot diff if we took Booker.

I remember posting on another basketball forum right before that draft how I thought SVG was going to take Booker and I DIDNT want him. His quotes were all for Booker and how we needed shooting. I wanted Winslow or Stanley. Would of been hard to pull the trigger on Booker over all the so called "draft gurus" boards but yeah it was really a close call.

booker would not have gotten the shot he has in phoenix. hed be in the luke role.

With Bookers absolutely atrocious defense, do people here think Booker would be killing it?

[Pugz]

Stanley played 23.1 MPG as a rook, Luke is playing 17.3

The notion that SVG doesn't play rookies is a myth

If anything Stan is trying to get Luke more minutes by playing him at the 3, which is definitely not his ideal position.

he plays them, yes. however, they have a short leash and even when playing well, he takes them out.

[Drwho17]

Van Gundy takes a lot of players out when they are playing well, I think it's kind of his strategy, make a great play and go to the bench, finish on a high point or something.

[tradez401]

im with everybody else stanleys just not a fit for this team hopefully he get play within some1 elses system and take his game to a new level but we need consistent shooters so i'd put stanley on the trading block along with leuer lol.

[Moses ShamMoses]

lol Nobody is touching Leuer and his bloated deal