Bucks Trade Ideas Thread 2018

[mlloyd10]

Bucks get: DJ/WIlliams
Blazers get: Middleton/Wilson
Clippers get: McCollum/Telly

[LuessiT]

Bucks get: DJ/WIlliams
Blazers get: Middleton/Wilson
Clippers get: McCollum/Telly

I'd cut the Clippers out and would take CJ.

[MickeyDavis]

We'll move all trade talk to the ATL thread with the trade deadline looming. We'll start a new, separate trade thread after the deadline passes

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[MickeyDavis]

I've had some requests to keep a separate Bucks trade thread open. So let's try to keep Bucks specific trade talk here and not in the ATL thread. Thx.

[paulpressey25]

We talked about it before, but Ed Davis with Portland is the guy to target. He's a FA at the end of the season. They can't afford him. 15/13 in a win last night.

Davis, Dedmon, RoLo all work for me. Whoever comes the cheapest.

ETA: Ed Davis is tough. Makes $6.3mm and we don't have good salary matches. Rashad and DJ work.

[blazza18]

Ed Davis would boost us into the top half of rebounding just by himself.

[LuessiT]

We talked about it before, but Ed Davis with Portland is the guy to target. He's a FA at the end of the season. They can't afford him. 15/13 in a win last night.

Davis, Dedmon, RoLo all work for me. Whoever comes the cheapest.

ETA: Ed Davis is tough. Makes $6.3mm and we don't have good salary matches. Rashad and DJ work.

Ed Davis is probably only get-able in a deal for Lillard/McCollum. We probably can absorb Vonleh for free (with the Hibbert TPE) though which would get them under the tax. They might even pay us for that.

[paulpressey25]

DJ, Thon, Telly for RoLo and Portis.

Would greatly help the Bulls tank this year and give them two young guys who need tanking court time. I'm sure some Bulls fan would weigh in that they want Portis but I'd rather keep Mirotic if they have to split those guys up.

ETA: Didn't realize Portis has put up some statz of late. We might be short an asset, but I'd still venture out with it. If not, just Thon and Telly for RoLo.

[Frank Nova]

DJ, Thon, Telly for RoLo and Portis.

Would greatly help the Bulls tank this year and give them two young guys who need tanking court time. I'm sure some Bulls fan would weigh in that they want Portis but I'd rather keep Mirotic if they have to split those guys up.

ETA: Didn't realize Portis has put up some statz of late. We might be short an asset, but I'd still venture out with it. If not, just Thon and Telly for RoLo.

DJ is a Horst guy, we all saw the boner he had when he was able to make the pick. We're stuck with him until we decline is option and trade him then or he becomes serviceable.

A trade around Thon and Rolo is a beautiful thing tho. How the FO can't see that is baffling. Shouldn't be a hard sell either, if I was a betting man I'd put my mortgage on us over valuing Thon and that's the only hold up.

I saw someone post earlier that basically said we're a Dedmon and Jabari addition away from being a legit product. I couldn't agree with that more. We have some project assets that should appeal somewhat to a team trying to get money off their books. There's a Thon Vaughn Delly trade out there just waiting on us that brings back a big we need and a 3rd PG.

[raferfenix]

I’m wondering whether we are about to see significantly more Giannis at the 5.

So thinking ahead to when Jabari gets his legs back — the more minutes at the 3 he gets, the less available there are for Middlelton. Khris moves to the 2, which then cuts into the clock of Bledsoe / Brogdon / Snell.

Yes some combination of them playing fewer minutes would be fine. But it seems just as likely that the combo of Giannis alongside Jabari at the 4 beats out Henson or Thon as front court running mates.

Of course a trade could shake all this up. But either way I can see us moving away from so many minutes for skinny centers like Henson and Thon — as opposed to just playing Giannis at the 5 as a skinny center himself.

It’s not like those guys are such better rebounders than Parker. And the help on offense — including as many shooters as possible surrounding Giannis — might be worth more to us on the court.

Now if we acquire a center that provides something different / better than what Henson and Thon do then that calculation might be change. But it doesn’t seem like a stretch for Giannis to play more and more small ball 5 as he develops in general, and the Bucks making moves with that in mind.

[LuessiT]

I’m wondering whether we are about to see significantly more Giannis at the 5.

So thinking ahead to when Jabari gets his legs back — the more minutes at the 3 he gets, the less available there are for Middlelton. Khris moves to the 2, which then cuts into the clock of Bledsoe / Brogdon / Snell.

Yes some combination of them playing fewer minutes would be fine. But it seems just as likely that the combo of Giannis alongside Jabari at the 4 beats out Henson or Thon as front court running mates.

Of course a trade could shake all this up. But either way I can see us moving away from so many minutes for skinny centers like Henson and Thon — as opposed to just playing Giannis at the 5 as a skinny center himself.

It’s not like those guys are such better rebounders than Parker. And the help on offense — including as many shooters as possible surrounding Giannis — might be worth more to us on the court.

Now if we acquire a center that provides something different / better than what Henson and Thon do then that calculation might be change. But it doesn’t seem like a stretch for Giannis to play more and more small ball 5 as he develops in general, and the Bucks making moves with that in mind.

Khris or Jabari would rather move to the 4 than the 2. I'd rather see Jabari move to the 2 than Khris.

[Chuck Diesel]

Marc Gasol would be sick on this team

[StickeeFingaz]

Marc Gasol would be sick on this team

Weird, I had a dream last night that the Bucks traded for Marc.

[BroncoBuck]

I’m wondering whether we are about to see significantly more Giannis at the 5.

So thinking ahead to when Jabari gets his legs back — the more minutes at the 3 he gets, the less available there are for Middlelton. Khris moves to the 2, which then cuts into the clock of Bledsoe / Brogdon / Snell.

Yes some combination of them playing fewer minutes would be fine. But it seems just as likely that the combo of Giannis alongside Jabari at the 4 beats out Henson or Thon as front court running mates.

Of course a trade could shake all this up. But either way I can see us moving away from so many minutes for skinny centers like Henson and Thon — as opposed to just playing Giannis at the 5 as a skinny center himself.

It’s not like those guys are such better rebounders than Parker. And the help on offense — including as many shooters as possible surrounding Giannis — might be worth more to us on the court.

Now if we acquire a center that provides something different / better than what Henson and Thon do then that calculation might be change. But it doesn’t seem like a stretch for Giannis to play more and more small ball 5 as he develops in general, and the Bucks making moves with that in mind.

Khris or Jabari would rather move to the 4 than the 2. I'd rather see Jabari move to the 2 than Khris.

What?

[Frank Nova]

Marc Gasol would be sick on this team

Honestly there isn't a better big man in the league for this roster. Marco does everything, protects the rim, rebounds, spreads the floor and has awareness off the charts on both ends. If we landed Marc, I'd immediately put us as legit East contenders from the moment he landed in Milwaukee. Wow, that's a wet dream how perfect that would really be.

Thon Henson Vaughn Delly DJ Mirza(insurance $), TPE, 2 future 1sts, take on any Grizz bad contracts they want us too, pay well into the luxury tax... literately whatever we'd have to do to make it work outside of Giannis and try to retain as many of Middleton, Bledsoe, Brogdon, Sterling, Jabari as possible if not all of them...

[LuessiT]

I’m wondering whether we are about to see significantly more Giannis at the 5.

So thinking ahead to when Jabari gets his legs back — the more minutes at the 3 he gets, the less available there are for Middlelton. Khris moves to the 2, which then cuts into the clock of Bledsoe / Brogdon / Snell.

Yes some combination of them playing fewer minutes would be fine. But it seems just as likely that the combo of Giannis alongside Jabari at the 4 beats out Henson or Thon as front court running mates.

Of course a trade could shake all this up. But either way I can see us moving away from so many minutes for skinny centers like Henson and Thon — as opposed to just playing Giannis at the 5 as a skinny center himself.

It’s not like those guys are such better rebounders than Parker. And the help on offense — including as many shooters as possible surrounding Giannis — might be worth more to us on the court.

Now if we acquire a center that provides something different / better than what Henson and Thon do then that calculation might be change. But it doesn’t seem like a stretch for Giannis to play more and more small ball 5 as he develops in general, and the Bucks making moves with that in mind.

Khris or Jabari would rather move to the 4 than the 2. I'd rather see Jabari move to the 2 than Khris.

What?

Jabari has shown before the second ACL tear that he has the footspeed to defend smaller guards. Actually his best defensive glimpses have been when defending smaller players on ball. Middleton just doesn't have that ability anymore (or he just doesn't care) and can't stop any penetration. So yeah, if somebody of those two would have to be playing the 2, I'd rather have it be Jabari.

[jakecronus8]

Marc Gasol would be sick on this team

Honestly there isn't a better big man in the league for this roster. Marco does everything, protects the rim, rebounds, spreads the floor and has awareness off the charts on both ends. If we landed Marc, I'd immediately put us as legit East contenders from the moment he landed in Milwaukee. Wow, that's a wet dream how perfect that would really be.

Thon Henson Vaughn Delly DJ Mirza(insurance $), TPE, 2 future 1sts, take on any Grizz bad contracts they want us too, pay well into the luxury tax... literately whatever we'd have to do to make it work outside of Giannis and try to retain as many of Middleton, Bledsoe, Brogdon, Sterling, Jabari as possible if not all of them...

Very difficult to trade future firsts given the Phoenix deal, and there's really no assets there for Memphis to even consider this. You'd have to send out Jabari or Brogdon I'd think. I'd consider it for Jabari but no go on Malcolm.

[Chuck Diesel]

Forgive a question that's probably been asked and answered a bunch, but what's the status on us being able to trade Mirza again? Could a team who wants his contract waive his physical or is that a league thing?

[Chuck Diesel]

I think Memphis considers a package of Jabari, Thon, Mirza, Wilson & a future first (which will be a late first because our team is gonna be elite)

Bledsoe/Brogdon/Delly
Snell/Brogdon/Delly
Middleton/Brown
Giannis/FA
Gasol/Henson

Pickup the best veteran buyout candidate who can give us some minutes at the four. Joe Johnson perhaps? Let's go.

[BroncoBuck]

Forgive a question that's probably been asked and answered a bunch, but what's the status on us being able to trade Mirza again? Could a team who wants his contract waive his physical or is that a league thing?

They could, but we’re the only ones who can waive him injured. They’d have to keep him for the remainder of his contract or trade him again.