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Post#1421 » by Mkdaman1818 » Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:10 am

vincecarter4pres wrote:That trade is a game changer, it feels like people really sleep on Blake these days, he's a beast. Sure he's suspect on D and his rebounding numbers have taken a huge hit playing next to a vacuum cleaner, but he is the reason that team is afloat right now and not sitting with an Atlanta Hawks-like record.

This sort of sets the market for Kevin Love, right?

Don't really get this trade for the Clippers though, they won't be as good as they currently were, which is a treadmill team, but it won't make them bad enough to be a high lotto team either, Harris and Bradley are solid players. They should have expanded this to 3 or 4 teams and got some more draft pick/prospect value and exchanged Harris and Bradley for useless players who expire this summer or next.

If Detroit can find a way to get rid of Reggie Jackson and bring in a solid point guard they could cook.

If I'm SVG I'm seriously considering offering the Memphis Grizzlies Jackson and filler for Conley. You can wait on him, Jackson has been on the shelf anyway.


It’s a fire sale move for the Clips, no doubt. DJ and Lou are gonna go too, and if they can get the Nets picks from Cleveland for one or both, they’ll have some good pieces.
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Post#1423 » by Mkdaman1818 » Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:12 am

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Post#1425 » by Netaman » Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:17 am

Nevermind the tanking I guess.
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Jordan is probably still on the move though.
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Post#1426 » by Paradise » Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:22 am

Netaman wrote:Nevermind the tanking I guess.
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Jordan is probably still on the move though.

This move might open up some more deals. If the Clippers can move their franchise player for assets, I’d assume Marc Gasol is next.
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Post#1427 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:23 am

vincecarter4pres wrote:That trade is a game changer, it feels like people really sleep on Blake these days, he's a beast. Sure he's suspect on D and his rebounding numbers have taken a huge hit playing next to a vacuum cleaner, but he is the reason that team is afloat right now and not sitting with an Atlanta Hawks-like record.

This sort of sets the market for Kevin Love, right?

Don't really get this trade for the Clippers though, they won't be as good as they currently were, which is a treadmill team, but it won't make them bad enough to be a high lotto team either, Harris and Bradley are solid players. They should have expanded this to 3 or 4 teams and got some more draft pick/prospect value and exchanged Harris and Bradley for useless players who expire this summer or next.

If Detroit can find a way to get rid of Reggie Jackson and bring in a solid point guard they could cook.

If I'm SVG I'm seriously considering offering the Memphis Grizzlies Jackson and filler for Conley. You can wait on him, Jackson has been on the shelf anyway.


why would the Grizz accept that deal?
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Re: Nets - In Season Moves & Possible Trade Ideas 

Post#1428 » by vincecarter4pres » Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:32 am

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vincecarter4pres wrote:That trade is a game changer, it feels like people really sleep on Blake these days, he's a beast. Sure he's suspect on D and his rebounding numbers have taken a huge hit playing next to a vacuum cleaner, but he is the reason that team is afloat right now and not sitting with an Atlanta Hawks-like record.

This sort of sets the market for Kevin Love, right?

Don't really get this trade for the Clippers though, they won't be as good as they currently were, which is a treadmill team, but it won't make them bad enough to be a high lotto team either, Harris and Bradley are solid players. They should have expanded this to 3 or 4 teams and got some more draft pick/prospect value and exchanged Harris and Bradley for useless players who expire this summer or next.

If Detroit can find a way to get rid of Reggie Jackson and bring in a solid point guard they could cook.

If I'm SVG I'm seriously considering offering the Memphis Grizzlies Jackson and filler for Conley. You can wait on him, Jackson has been on the shelf anyway.


why would the Grizz accept that deal?

Because he's never going to live up to that contract, especially the length of it and that team is going nowhere. Boston has their pick in 2019 only top 8 protected, top 6 in 2020, but which then becomes unprotected, they have incentive to be as bad as they can the next 3 years and improve after that.
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Re: Nets - In Season Moves & Possible Trade Ideas 

Post#1429 » by DarkXaero » Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:50 am

MrDollarBills wrote:
vincecarter4pres wrote:That trade is a game changer, it feels like people really sleep on Blake these days, he's a beast. Sure he's suspect on D and his rebounding numbers have taken a huge hit playing next to a vacuum cleaner, but he is the reason that team is afloat right now and not sitting with an Atlanta Hawks-like record.

This sort of sets the market for Kevin Love, right?

Don't really get this trade for the Clippers though, they won't be as good as they currently were, which is a treadmill team, but it won't make them bad enough to be a high lotto team either, Harris and Bradley are solid players. They should have expanded this to 3 or 4 teams and got some more draft pick/prospect value and exchanged Harris and Bradley for useless players who expire this summer or next.

If Detroit can find a way to get rid of Reggie Jackson and bring in a solid point guard they could cook.

If I'm SVG I'm seriously considering offering the Memphis Grizzlies Jackson and filler for Conley. You can wait on him, Jackson has been on the shelf anyway.


why would the Grizz accept that deal?
Because as it stands, Conley's contract is turning out to be an awful one. He's already out for the season and Grizzlies are going nowhere. A large chunk of their cap is taken by Conley and Parsons, two players who won't be playing this season. Grizzlies should look to dump Conley for cap and some low value assets.
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Post#1430 » by NyCeEvO » Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:53 am

vincecarter4pres wrote:That trade is a game changer, it feels like people really sleep on Blake these days, he's a beast. Sure he's suspect on D and his rebounding numbers have taken a huge hit playing next to a vacuum cleaner, but he is the reason that team is afloat right now and not sitting with an Atlanta Hawks-like record.

You're forgetting that he is very injury prone, will turn 29 in 1.5m months, and will still have 4yrs/$142mil left on his deal after this season.

And have you been paying attention to Lou Williams? He's been absolutely tearing it up this season. He's been a huge complement to Blake.

This sort of sets the market for Kevin Love, right?

I don't think this trade means anything for Love...at least for this season.

The Cavs aren't going to switch out significant components on the team for others. They're already going through so many problems and Love is probably the most stable player on the team. He's also having his best season as a Cav.

I don't see Love getting traded at least until LBJ decides whether to stay or go.
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Post#1431 » by Roy Tarpley » Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:57 am

Terrible trade by the Pistons. I have no idea what their vision is.
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Post#1432 » by NyCeEvO » Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:57 am

vincecarter4pres wrote:
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vincecarter4pres wrote:That trade is a game changer, it feels like people really sleep on Blake these days, he's a beast. Sure he's suspect on D and his rebounding numbers have taken a huge hit playing next to a vacuum cleaner, but he is the reason that team is afloat right now and not sitting with an Atlanta Hawks-like record.

This sort of sets the market for Kevin Love, right?

Don't really get this trade for the Clippers though, they won't be as good as they currently were, which is a treadmill team, but it won't make them bad enough to be a high lotto team either, Harris and Bradley are solid players. They should have expanded this to 3 or 4 teams and got some more draft pick/prospect value and exchanged Harris and Bradley for useless players who expire this summer or next.

If Detroit can find a way to get rid of Reggie Jackson and bring in a solid point guard they could cook.

If I'm SVG I'm seriously considering offering the Memphis Grizzlies Jackson and filler for Conley. You can wait on him, Jackson has been on the shelf anyway.


why would the Grizz accept that deal?

Because he's never going to live up to that contract, especially the length of it and that team is going nowhere. Boston has their pick in 2019 only top 8 protected, top 6 in 2020, but which then becomes unprotected, they have incentive to be as bad as they can the next 3 years and improve after that.

Conley's contract was the worst contract in the league the moment it was signed. Even if he was healthy, they gave him a superstar level contract. It was horrible.

I doubt any team would want to trade for him, especially right now since he can't help them this season and the team won't know how well he recovers. No one should touch that contract with a 10ft pole.
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Post#1433 » by Prokorov » Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:00 am

great trade for the clippers. multiple picks,cap relief, and tobias harris is really underrated. he is kind of like al horford where his impact is more then his statline.

dont love it for the pistons. griffin gives them another awful contract and i dont think he makes them a top 4 seed now or in the near future. they lose picks and dont have the cap flexibility to add to that core.

i mean the pistons just became the homeless mans version of the clippers with Reggie/blake/drummond only reggie isnt 10% the player prime paul was, blake is an older injured version of himself and durmmond is a lazier worse jordan
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Post#1434 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:15 am

vincecarter4pres wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
vincecarter4pres wrote:That trade is a game changer, it feels like people really sleep on Blake these days, he's a beast. Sure he's suspect on D and his rebounding numbers have taken a huge hit playing next to a vacuum cleaner, but he is the reason that team is afloat right now and not sitting with an Atlanta Hawks-like record.

This sort of sets the market for Kevin Love, right?

Don't really get this trade for the Clippers though, they won't be as good as they currently were, which is a treadmill team, but it won't make them bad enough to be a high lotto team either, Harris and Bradley are solid players. They should have expanded this to 3 or 4 teams and got some more draft pick/prospect value and exchanged Harris and Bradley for useless players who expire this summer or next.

If Detroit can find a way to get rid of Reggie Jackson and bring in a solid point guard they could cook.

If I'm SVG I'm seriously considering offering the Memphis Grizzlies Jackson and filler for Conley. You can wait on him, Jackson has been on the shelf anyway.


why would the Grizz accept that deal?

Because he's never going to live up to that contract, especially the length of it and that team is going nowhere. Boston has their pick in 2019 only top 8 protected, top 6 in 2020, but which then becomes unprotected, they have incentive to be as bad as they can the next 3 years and improve after that.


i forgot how much Conley was being paid. Point proven. :o
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Post#1435 » by Mkdaman1818 » Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:16 am

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Post#1436 » by Paradise » Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:18 am

Roy Tarpley wrote:Terrible trade by the Pistons. I have no idea what their vision is.

1. They can’t tank this season because they are too good.

2. They can’t make the playoffs as is because they aren’t that good and don’t have any assets to make minor deals (Fournier/Carroll were options).

3. Their brand new arena in downtown Detroit currently sits with the worst attendance record in the Eastern Conference. 2nd worst in the league.

Bradley wasn’t coming back this season for them anyways.
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Post#1437 » by TheNetsFan » Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:36 am

I don't think LAC would do it, but I'd propose a swap with RHJ & Harris as the principle pieces. It likely would have to include Lin to match salary, and possibly the Toronto pick. I'm a big fan of Harris's game. He'd look good in this system.
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Post#1438 » by shakendfries » Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:14 am

TheNetsFan wrote:I don't think LAC would do it, but I'd propose a swap with RHJ & Harris as the principle pieces. It likely would have to include Lin to match salary, and possibly the Toronto pick. I'm a big fan of Harris's game. He'd look good in this system.


this move would literally make no difference for either team
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Post#1439 » by MGrand15 » Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:54 am

This Blake trade reminds me of how much I hate this tank or chip mentality that's been going around the league. I get that you shouldn't want to be locked into the 8th seed for 10 years straight but there's room for fringe contenders. Teams where absolutely everything needs to click for them to make a run.

Blake and Drummond probably aren't beating the Warriors but if you surround them with shooters and maybe one or two guys break out, they could be a tough out for anyone in the playoffs. Especially with how weak the East is.

I just think back to that awesome Mavs team that won a chip with Scrappy vets and a prime Dirk. They were counted out the entire playoffs. If management gave up on them and tried to rebuild cause they were an old team likely to get knocked out early in the playoffs, we'd never see that magical run.
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Post#1440 » by Mkdaman1818 » Tue Jan 30, 2018 5:23 am

MGrand15 wrote:This Blake trade reminds me of how much I hate this tank or chip mentality that's been going around the league. I get that you shouldn't want to be locked into the 8th seed for 10 years straight but there's room for fringe contenders. Teams where absolutely everything needs to click for them to make a run.

Blake and Drummond probably aren't beating the Warriors but if you surround them with shooters and maybe one or two guys break out, they could be a tough out for anyone in the playoffs. Especially with how weak the East is.

I just think back to that awesome Mavs team that won a chip with Scrappy vets and a prime Dirk. They were counted out the entire playoffs. If management gave up on them and tried to rebuild cause they were an old team likely to get knocked out early in the playoffs, we'd never see that magical run.

The problem is, ever since that season, the league has gotten seriously top heavy. The free agency superteam really started with that first Miami year and once they figured out how to click (after that 2011 loss to the Mavericks) they were off and running. Teams took notice and realized the types of players they needed to make a superteam. Then you had the natural superteam of the Spurs draft Kawhi and go from there, which leads us to the Warriors. Now it’s just a league of a few teams having all the stars and basically being the only real contenders. There’s no way an upstart team can go through these superteam contenders anymore so now you have a truly divided league - the haves and the have-nots. There’s no real incentive to be in the middle.

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