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Re: Bucks Trade Ideas Thread 2018 

Post#1461 » by Blockwatcher » Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:43 pm

Max Green wrote:We need another capable Center on this roster. We can't be serious about winning if Thon is playing.


Thon maker & DJ Wilson
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You can laugh if I'm way off but keep in mind I didn't laugh at your board when they suggested KP and Noah for buyers remorse and a guy who hasn't played in a year
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Post#1462 » by ackypoo » Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:44 pm

trading snell is nuts.

having cheap wings who can shoot is the way to a championship.
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Re: Bucks Trade Ideas Thread 2018 

Post#1463 » by dbrodz7 » Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:45 pm

ackypoo wrote:trading snell is nuts.

having cheap wings who can shoot is the way to a championship.


Green font? He's making 1.5M for every one of those precious PPG.
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Re: Bucks Trade Ideas Thread 2018 

Post#1464 » by tski1972 » Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:45 pm

Blockwatcher wrote:
Max Green wrote:We need another capable Center on this roster. We can't be serious about winning if Thon is playing.


Thon maker & DJ Wilson
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Kyle Oquinn & Doug McDermott

You can laugh if I'm way off but keep in mind I didn't laugh at your board when they suggested KP and Noah for buyers remorse and a guy who hasn't played in a year


if it was financially possible, yes.

since its not, no.
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Re: Bucks Trade Ideas Thread 2018 

Post#1465 » by buckboy » Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:48 pm

Chuck Diesel wrote:No need to conflate "willing to explore deals" with "hate."


It's been the same way with Jabari. Why change now?
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Re: Bucks Trade Ideas Thread 2018 

Post#1466 » by ackypoo » Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:49 pm

dbrodz7 wrote:
ackypoo wrote:trading snell is nuts.

having cheap wings who can shoot is the way to a championship.


Green font?

no.

look at golden state and count how many guys on their roster they have between 6'6'' and 6'8'' that can shoot the three. its imperative to pace and space offenses that dominate the nba at the moment to have wings who can shoot. snells deal is extremely reasonable.

up until this point, the only thing we did wrong with snell is not getting him incorporated more in the offense. but ive noticed the last couple of games our offense is moving a lot more which should bring up his value more.
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Re: Bucks Trade Ideas Thread 2018 

Post#1467 » by mlloyd10 » Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:52 pm

ackypoo wrote:trading snell is nuts.

having cheap wings who can shoot is the way to a championship.


Brown can have his minutes
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Post#1468 » by raferfenix » Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:52 pm

But how do we afford Snell in addition to Bledsoe / Middleton / Brogdon when their contracts are all up at the same time?

Sure dealing someone who is not Snell might end up making sense depending on what we can get for them. But if you want to keep the 3 with the highest ceilings something has to give.
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Post#1469 » by BroncoBuck » Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:59 pm

raferfenix wrote:But how do we afford Snell in addition to Bledsoe / Middleton / Brogdon when their contracts are all up at the same time?

Sure dealing someone who is not Snell might end up making sense depending on what we can get for them. But if you want to keep the 3 with the highest ceilings something has to give.


Let Bledsoe and possibly Jabari walk.
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Post#1470 » by Max Green » Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:13 pm

Snell isn't a shooter. He's a guy who can hit an open shot in perfect conditions when he has 3 seconds to set his feet before the ball reaches him.
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Re: Bucks Trade Ideas Thread 2018 

Post#1471 » by emunney » Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:18 pm

ackypoo wrote:
dbrodz7 wrote:
ackypoo wrote:trading snell is nuts.

having cheap wings who can shoot is the way to a championship.


Green font?

no.

look at golden state and count how many guys on their roster they have between 6'6'' and 6'8'' that can shoot the three. its imperative to pace and space offenses that dominate the nba at the moment to have wings who can shoot. snells deal is extremely reasonable.

up until this point, the only thing we did wrong with snell is not getting him incorporated more in the offense. but ive noticed the last couple of games our offense is moving a lot more which should bring up his value more.


I looked at Golden State and I have no idea what you're talking about. What Golden State has is 4 all-stars and no bad money. They're not great because of Casspi and Nick Young.
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Re: Bucks Trade Ideas Thread 2018 

Post#1472 » by Ron Swanson » Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:18 pm

You have all of these players on tradeable contracts for next season and/or beyond (Snell, Middleton, Bledsoe). You guys are acting like they're expirings and we need to trade them now or else lose them for nothing. I don't understand it at all.

If there's a deal that makes sense and also adds a high end talent, then fine. But moving wings on good contracts just for the sake of shoring up another position is just shuffling deck chairs. Delly is the only contract that I'd even consider attaching a minor asset to dump, and even that's becoming a less popular opinion for me now that we have the opportunity to see what he looks like under an actual NBA coach.
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Re: Bucks Trade Ideas Thread 2018 

Post#1473 » by M-C-G » Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:19 pm

Max Green wrote:Snell isn't a shooter. He's a guy who can hit an open shot in perfect conditions when he has 3 seconds to set his feet before the ball reaches him.


While I agree, how about we (Prunty) just make him shooting 8 3pa a game and see what happens? Hell, even if his 3% dropped down to the 35% mark, that'd still be nice.
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Re: Bucks Trade Ideas Thread 2018 

Post#1474 » by LuessiT » Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:19 pm

BroncoBuck wrote:
raferfenix wrote:But how do we afford Snell in addition to Bledsoe / Middleton / Brogdon when their contracts are all up at the same time?

Sure dealing someone who is not Snell might end up making sense depending on what we can get for them. But if you want to keep the 3 with the highest ceilings something has to give.


Let Bledsoe and possibly Jabari walk.


Or instead of letting them walk for free, maybe trade them for value?
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Re: Bucks Trade Ideas Thread 2018 

Post#1475 » by Max Green » Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:24 pm

M-C-G wrote:
Max Green wrote:Snell isn't a shooter. He's a guy who can hit an open shot in perfect conditions when he has 3 seconds to set his feet before the ball reaches him.


While I agree, how about we (Prunty) just make him shooting 8 3pa a game and see what happens? Hell, even if his 3% dropped down to the 35% mark, that'd still be nice.


You're not gonna make him put up more then four 3-point attempts a game unless you put a shock collar around his neck that zaps him every time he passes up an open 3-pointer. We've seen him for 5 years now, he's reluctant to shoot the ball.
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Re: Bucks Trade Ideas Thread 2018 

Post#1476 » by ackypoo » Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:28 pm

emunney wrote:
ackypoo wrote:
dbrodz7 wrote:
Green font?

no.

look at golden state and count how many guys on their roster they have between 6'6'' and 6'8'' that can shoot the three. its imperative to pace and space offenses that dominate the nba at the moment to have wings who can shoot. snells deal is extremely reasonable.

up until this point, the only thing we did wrong with snell is not getting him incorporated more in the offense. but ive noticed the last couple of games our offense is moving a lot more which should bring up his value more.


I looked at Golden State and I have no idea what you're talking about. What Golden State has is 4 all-stars and no bad money. They're not great because of Casspi and Nick Young.

did you know that nick young puts up nearly the same amount of 3pa's per game as snell does in roughly half the amount of minutes while also shooting a considerably worse %.

i find that interesting.
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Re: Bucks Trade Ideas Thread 2018 

Post#1477 » by ackypoo » Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:29 pm

Max Green wrote:
M-C-G wrote:
Max Green wrote:Snell isn't a shooter. He's a guy who can hit an open shot in perfect conditions when he has 3 seconds to set his feet before the ball reaches him.


While I agree, how about we (Prunty) just make him shooting 8 3pa a game and see what happens? Hell, even if his 3% dropped down to the 35% mark, that'd still be nice.


You're not gonna make him put up more then four 3-point attempts a game unless you put a shock collar around his neck that zaps him every time he passes up an open 3-pointer. We've seen him for 5 years now, he's reluctant to shoot the ball.

hes not that reluctant to take open looks. he just doesnt take em when people are closing out on him. and the easy solution to that, get him in more catch and shoot situations or work to get him open looks.
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Re: Bucks Trade Ideas Thread 2018 

Post#1478 » by M-C-G » Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:30 pm

Max Green wrote:
M-C-G wrote:
Max Green wrote:Snell isn't a shooter. He's a guy who can hit an open shot in perfect conditions when he has 3 seconds to set his feet before the ball reaches him.


While I agree, how about we (Prunty) just make him shooting 8 3pa a game and see what happens? Hell, even if his 3% dropped down to the 35% mark, that'd still be nice.


You're not gonna make him put up more then four 3-point attempts a game unless you put a shock collar around his neck that zaps him every time he passes up an open 3-pointer. We've seen him for 5 years now, he's reluctant to shoot the ball.


Shock therapy isn't what it used to be and I am open to it as a viable option.

I will say he seems to shoot it if open, just need to run some actual plays a la Hawk's Korver or Clippers JJ Redick.
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Re: Bucks Trade Ideas Thread 2018 

Post#1479 » by ackypoo » Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:30 pm

whatever, we are going to see what happens with snell in the 2nd half of this season.

theres a contingent of fans who just think brown could take his minutes, and im over here wondering why wed want that, play them both. cant have too many wings.
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Re: Bucks Trade Ideas Thread 2018 

Post#1480 » by xTitan » Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:32 pm

Snell isn't very good, vastly over paid....A smart GM, say like Stearns for the Brewers, would've let a guy like Snell walk because he would've believed he will either draft or find a much cheaper version of Snell.

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