Bucks Trade Ideas Thread 2018

[emunney]

So a player is either outperforming his contract or he's hampering the team, so he should be traded. Yeah, I'm not building an NBA roster like it's franchise mode in 2K, because that's not reality.

Nor am I losing good wings for nothing just because of the pipe dream that a Paul George or Jimmy Butler might be both available and wanting to come to Milwaukee sometime in the next 5 years. If that opportunity ever arrises then that's exactly the benefit of having movable contracts like Snell and minor assets to attach.

Wait a minute. How is this a pipe dream? Both of those guys were moved in the past 6 months.

[skones]

Snell is our only guy dedicated to camping outside the 3 point line to provide space to our penetrators/Henson, and shooting with some volume + efficiency. So I'm not willing to easily relinquish that now, unless we're getting something in return who provides a similar service. It would be another Bledsoe for Monroe/1st type move in which maybe you're OK w/ the value in a vacuum but at the end of the day question if you really actually helped yourself in the interim because you lost something that was also in need for the team.

I have quite a bit of confidence in Sterling Brown providing much of what Snell does.

With that being said, you've got Abrines and Patterson on shorter more manageable deals in OKC. They might look at Snell and say, he gives us better defense on the wing WITH spacing, he doesn't need the ball, that's attractive.

[Ron Swanson]

Then you'd include Tony Snell's contract plus your other assets in a deal for either guy to make salaries work like the Thunder did with Oladipo. It's only through hindsight that Oladipo is now "out-performing" his massive $84 mil extension, which he wasn't at all at the time he was traded. How are we not seeing the irony/direct correlation in this?

[skones]

So a player is either outperforming his contract or he's hampering the team, so he should be traded. Yeah, I'm not building an NBA roster like it's franchise mode in 2K, because that's not reality.

Nor am I losing good wings for nothing just because of the pipe dream that a Paul George or Jimmy Butler might be both available and wanting to come to Milwaukee sometime in the next 5 years. If that opportunity ever arrises then that's exactly the benefit of having movable contracts like Snell and minor assets to attach.

When you're not an impact player, your production overall is marginal, and you're a 46 million dollar weight on the payroll, yes, you are hampering the team. When he's that "meh" player on your payroll, that may actually be attractive to some teams BECAUSE of his shooting, it might be better to sell high and get outta dodge while you can.

With Jabari coming back, his minutes are going to become more limited. That's not going to help his overall value and it's certainly not going to be a boon to his overall production.

[leroyjw10]

Snell, to me, is a very replaceable player. And replaceable players shouldn't cost you $10M/year. He's a fine shooter, but 43% 3-point shooting doesn't mean as much to me on only 4.6 threes/36. And I don't think he'll ever be aggressive enough to up that number significantly. And he's a fine defender, but nothing spectacular. I wouldn't bet on him ever getting any votes for an all-defense team.

I've said since the moment they resigned Snell that guys like him can be found in every draft, often in the 2nd round. Someone like ... Sterling Brown, for example. When Sterling's out there, you know he's out there. He's a super active player and a great shooter. Snell could play an entire half without anyone ever noticing.

I like Snell just fine, but small-market teams like the Bucks can't continue to give bench players (Snelly, Delly, Telly, Henson) 8-figure salaries. For teams like the Bucks, 8-figure salaries should be reserved for legit difference makers. Snell ain't that.

[Nightfall]

While i hope Jabari comes back healthy and continues from where we stopped, despite his defensive weakness, can you imagine the team if something like this was possible, by adding draft picks, scrubs, or any minor adjustments. It could even work salary-wise in renewing Kemba later.

[Badgerlander]

[paulpressey25]

Rolo please.

I've got him as target 1b now. Would rather take Dedmon if he comes cheaper. Plus then you leave Henson as the starter. I fear you move Henson to the bench and he'd revert back.

[Chuck Diesel]

I’m gonna make a list of guys who are better than or equal to Delly and Snell, play the same positions and make less money. It’ll take awhile.

[Ron Swanson]

Maybe it's just being conditioned as Bucks fans to despise any and every MLE type contract. I don't know. So max contracts for Giannis, Jabari, and one of Middleton/Bledsoe. Then everyone else on a vet-minimum or dirt cheap rookie deals? Again, good luck building an NBA team like that. I just question the logic of thinking that way.

Who here thinks that Andre Iguodala and Shaun Livingston, making a combined $23 mil per year annually, are performing up to their contracts? Seems pretty weird that Golden State is willing to go into the luxury tax for overpaid MLE-type role players to compliment their roster.

[skones]

How much do the salaries of Bullock, Miller, Babbit, and Wilson combined add up to?

[skones]

Maybe it's just being conditioned as Bucks fans to despise any and every MLE type contract. I don't know. So max contracts for Giannis, Jabari, and one of Middleton/Bledsoe. Then everyone else on a vet-minimum or dirt cheap rookie deals? Again, good luck building an NBA team like that. I just question the logic of thinking that way.

Who here thinks that Andre Iguodala and Shaun Livingston, making a combined $23 mil per year annually, are performing up to their contracts? Seems pretty weird that Golden State is willing to go into the luxury tax for overpaid MLE-type role players to compliment their roster.

Perhaps because they're winning titles?

[Badgerlander]

How much do the salaries of Bullock, Miller, Babbit, and Wilson combined add up to?

Wilson playing for the Mad Antz right now

[ReasonablySober]

Kyler:

The prevailing thought around the NBA is the Bucks would be open to and are pursuing a major player trade and have been linked to the Clippers and DeAndre Jordan. They also continue to be mentioned in NBA circles as having eyes for Miami’s Hassan Whiteside. Its hard to imagine either deal gets done without the inclusion of Parker, so the Bucks getting a chance to see him on the court for a few games before the deadline may go a long way in cementing their decision.

Gross.

[Ron Swanson]

They were paying $55 mil and over 60% of their salary cap to Iguodala, Livingston, Bogut, and David Lee when they won their first title in 2015.

[MikeIsGood]

Whenever I hear or see Darius Miller's name, I keep thinking Darius Miles is somehow in the league still.

[skones]

So they won a title?

[skones]

Whenever I hear or see Darius Miller's name, I keep thinking Darius Miles is somehow in the league still.

[Badgerlander]

They were paying $55 mil and over 60% of their salary cap to Iguodala, Livingston, Bogut, and David Lee when they won their first title in 2015.

and Iggy was the Finals MVP

[Ron Swanson]

They don't win a title without those overpaid role-players.