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Re: Trade Thread (TRADE WARS EPISODE V: The Empire Strikes Back) 

Post#481 » by Coxy » Mon Feb 5, 2018 1:50 am

wco81 wrote:Is that true, were the Warriors better on defense in Bogut's last season, especially the playoffs, than last season?

I thought the Warriors led the league in blocked shots last season or was near the top.

Draymond and KD are both going to play almost 3 times the minutes, especially in the playoffs, than any C on the roster.

They also happen to block or alter a lot of shots.

One thing the team misses from a C is screening off the ball but Curry and Klay are shooting as well or even better than before, especially on catch and shoot jumpers.


The stats may prove me wrong, but when we lost Bogut I feel as though lost a real formidable defensive identity. He put the fear into opposing teams bringing it inside. Without an inside presence, we get scored on at will most games. Draybeast does a good job of altering shots, and Durant nabs blocks throughout the game as well, but these are mostly weak side stuff. Durant doesn't have a shot blockers p=presence at all.

We need a big man once more inside on defence. Zaza aint cutting it.
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Re: Trade Thread (TRADE WARS EPISODE V: The Empire Strikes Back) 

Post#482 » by Mylie10 » Mon Feb 5, 2018 4:53 am

Mylie10 wrote:So there's a rumor about Bellinelli coming to the Warriors.

Not sure what the trade parameters would be. But they held McCaw out of the last game, and the GM for the Hawks if former assistant GM Travis Shlenk. I haven't looked up Bellinellis salary, but he would help with the shooting and passing aspects.

I don't see how or why you'd want to have Nick Young and Bellinelli. But at least Belli can run an offense to a certain extent.

Another guy I would love to grab somehow is Tyson Chandler.


So Bellinelli makes 6.6 mil for this season and is expiring. Reportedly the Hawks want a second rounder.

To make money work it might have to be McCaw and Young to get it done. Which works for everyone. Not sure how the Hawks view McCaw of course.
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Re: Trade Thread (TRADE WARS EPISODE V: The Empire Strikes Back) 

Post#483 » by Phase 3 » Mon Feb 5, 2018 5:16 am

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Mylie10 wrote:So there's a rumor about Bellinelli coming to the Warriors.

Not sure what the trade parameters would be. But they held McCaw out of the last game, and the GM for the Hawks if former assistant GM Travis Shlenk. I haven't looked up Bellinellis salary, but he would help with the shooting and passing aspects.

I don't see how or why you'd want to have Nick Young and Bellinelli. But at least Belli can run an offense to a certain extent.

Another guy I would love to grab somehow is Tyson Chandler.


So makes 6.6 mil for this season and is expiring. Reportedly the Hawks want a second rounder.

To make money work it might have to be McCaw and Young to get it done. Which works for everyone. Not sure how the Hawks view McCaw of course.

Where did you see this rumor?
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Post#484 » by Phase 3 » Mon Feb 5, 2018 5:21 am

And if they’re interested in Belinelli, I would love to see them expand the deal to include Dedmon...I posted a Belinelli and Dedmon trade on the previous page. Both those guys would fit great imo...Belinelli could be the scorer off the bench and Dedmon could be the rim protecting starting center they need.
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Re: Trade Thread (TRADE WARS EPISODE V: The Empire Strikes Back) 

Post#485 » by FNQ » Mon Feb 5, 2018 6:07 pm

Willy Hernangomez is on the block.

Would anyone else offer either Looney, McCaw, or Damian Jones + our 2018 1st for him? I would.. fluid big, we'd have him for 2 more years very cheap, and has the upside to be our primary big off the bench once West retires.
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Re: Trade Thread (TRADE WARS EPISODE V: The Empire Strikes Back) 

Post#486 » by Coxy » Mon Feb 5, 2018 10:02 pm

FNQ wrote:Willy Hernangomez is on the block.

Would anyone else offer either Looney, McCaw, or Damian Jones + our 2018 1st for him? I would.. fluid big, we'd have him for 2 more years very cheap, and has the upside to be our primary big off the bench once West retires.


Wow, so weird, was just coming to this thread to put the feelers out on who would be interested in Willy. The Warriors should be jumping all the eff over this. He's like an Enes Kanter lite type. I have no idea why he would have fallen out of the Knicks rotation. I can only imagine his defence being suspect, or he has some conflict issues in the locker room or something. Dude can rebound really well and finish around the basket better than any big we have that's under 37 yrs old.

Looney/McCaw and the 1st I'd be fine with, works financially as well. Then we can bring on Quinn Cook full time for the rest of the year. Dude is 23!!
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Re: Trade Thread (TRADE WARS EPISODE V: The Empire Strikes Back) 

Post#487 » by Mylie10 » Tue Feb 6, 2018 12:59 am

I like Willie but that is to much imo. Our need is at guard or center, maybe even a wing.


https://www.netsdaily.com/2018/2/5/16974596/woj-nets-likely-to-keep-gathering-assets-thinks-harris-could-get-maybe-a-second

I'd love to grab Sepncer Dinwiddie if possible. Dude has an insane assist to turnover ratio and is rangy at 6'6" for a point guard.

Not a great shooter, but I looked at where his shots were coming from. Basically he's a really good finisher, decent three point shooter. But crappy mid range shooter or anywhere out side the lane, to the three point line. Something we can correct in him by stressing not to take those shots.

But if we got him by sending out maybe McCaw and our 30th pick, I think our bench would be in great shape moving forward.
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Post#488 » by Mylie10 » Tue Feb 6, 2018 1:01 am

I take back what I said about it being to much for Willie, but still feel like Dinwiddie is more of a need.
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Post#489 » by Phase 3 » Tue Feb 6, 2018 1:05 am

Mylie10 wrote:I take back what I said about it being to much for Willie, but still feel like Dinwiddie is more of a need.

Dinwiddie would be nice. Probably out of our price range I’m guessing?
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Post#490 » by Phase 3 » Tue Feb 6, 2018 4:34 am

According to Zach Lowe, the Warriors and Nets have discussed a Mccaw for Joe Harris swap. The holdup is that both teams want the other team to include a 2nd round pick in the deal. Would you trade Mccaw and a 2nd round pick for Harris? I like Harris and would obviously do a straight up swap. Not thrilled with giving up a pick in the deal but I might do it if another better deal doesn’t present itself by the deadline.
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Post#491 » by Coxy » Tue Feb 6, 2018 7:54 am

gsw213 wrote:According to Zach Lowe, the Warriors and Nets have discussed a Mccaw for Joe Harris swap. The holdup is that both teams want the other team to include a 2nd round pick in the deal. Would you trade Mccaw and a 2nd round pick for Harris? I like Harris and would obviously do a straight up swap. Not thrilled with giving up a pick in the deal but I might do it if another better deal doesn’t present itself by the deadline.


Of course we take a McCaw + 2nd for Joe Harris. McCaw sucks. I'd wager he wouldn't average 2 ppg in the Italian 2nd division with 80% usage. Joe Harris can play, and shoot. The hold up is the 2nd? We buy 2nd's for cash money yo, who cares about 2nds.
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Post#492 » by Coxy » Tue Feb 6, 2018 8:02 am

Mylie10 wrote:I take back what I said about it being to much for Willie, but still feel like Dinwiddie is more of a need.


I'd rather Caris Levert, but either would be a great add.
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Post#493 » by Phase 3 » Tue Feb 6, 2018 8:32 am

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gsw213 wrote:According to Zach Lowe, the Warriors and Nets have discussed a Mccaw for Joe Harris swap. The holdup is that both teams want the other team to include a 2nd round pick in the deal. Would you trade Mccaw and a 2nd round pick for Harris? I like Harris and would obviously do a straight up swap. Not thrilled with giving up a pick in the deal but I might do it if another better deal doesn’t present itself by the deadline.


Of course we take a McCaw + 2nd for Joe Harris. McCaw sucks. I'd wager he wouldn't average 2 ppg in the Italian 2nd division with 80% usage. Joe Harris can play, and shoot. The hold up is the 2nd? We buy 2nd's for cash money yo, who cares about 2nds.

Well, I wouldn’t be opposed to throwing in a 2nd. But apparently the Warriors front office is hesitating for whatever reason. Bottom line is if they aren’t willing to give up any assets, it’s probably gonna be tough to strike a deal for a player that can help them. Mccaw, Looney, Jones, ect just don’t have good trade value.
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Re: Trade Thread (TRADE WARS EPISODE V: The Empire Strikes Back) 

Post#494 » by Mylie10 » Tue Feb 6, 2018 8:35 am

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gsw213 wrote:According to Zach Lowe, the Warriors and Nets have discussed a Mccaw for Joe Harris swap. The holdup is that both teams want the other team to include a 2nd round pick in the deal. Would you trade Mccaw and a 2nd round pick for Harris? I like Harris and would obviously do a straight up swap. Not thrilled with giving up a pick in the deal but I might do it if another better deal doesn’t present itself by the deadline.


Of course we take a McCaw + 2nd for Joe Harris. McCaw sucks. I'd wager he wouldn't average 2 ppg in the Italian 2nd division with 80% usage. Joe Harris can play, and shoot. The hold up is the 2nd? We buy 2nd's for cash money yo, who cares about 2nds.

Well, I wouldn’t be opposed to throwing in a 2nd. But apparently the Warriors front office is hesitating for whatever reason. Bottom line is if they aren’t willing to give up any assets, it’s probably gonna be tough to strike a deal for a player that can help them. Mccaw, Looney, Jones, ect just don’t have good trade value.


I'd rather keep McCaw and our 2nd instead of trading for Joe Harris. Who is meh.
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Re: Trade Thread (TRADE WARS EPISODE V: The Empire Strikes Back) 

Post#495 » by laika » Tue Feb 6, 2018 8:48 am

McCaw, Young, Livingston and Iguodala have been disappointing this year. Houston made a spectacular move in signing Paul. Their bench is going to crush ours, and they might even be the favorites at this point. The Warriors desperately need a guard.

I would offer a 1st plus filler for Dinwiddie. Sure, the Nets like him but they might be willing to give him up with enough incentive.
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Post#496 » by wco81 » Tue Feb 6, 2018 9:18 am

Warriors need those 2nd rounders to fill out the roster with cheap players.

That's the price of having so many superstars earning huge money.

West had been having a great year but is he going to keep taking the vet minimum?
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Post#497 » by KevinMcreynolds » Tue Feb 6, 2018 10:28 pm

laika wrote:McCaw, Young, Livingston and Iguodala have been disappointing this year. Houston made a spectacular move in signing Paul. Their bench is going to crush ours, and they might even be the favorites at this point. The Warriors desperately need a guard.


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Post#498 » by whatisacenter » Tue Feb 6, 2018 11:59 pm

I wish we would trade Nick Young for anything. I was in favor of bringing him in but he has not been as good as I had hoped. He is not the type of player who can thrive with inconsistent minutes and I feel that McCaw's development has taken a hit with Young getting minutes that Patrick would normally be playing. I'm not stuck on McCaw either, pair them together and get a hungry combo guard.
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Post#499 » by cdubbz » Wed Feb 7, 2018 1:08 am

I would love to pry Avery Bradley away from the Clippers, but we don't have anything they would take that makes sense. Shaun Livingston + McCaw work but don't see Jerry West wanting to do that unless he LOVES McCaw. Maybe throw in a pick.
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Post#500 » by cdubbz » Wed Feb 7, 2018 1:09 am

whatisacenter wrote:I wish we would trade Nick Young for anything. I was in favor of bringing him in but he has not been as good as I had hoped. He is not the type of player who can thrive with inconsistent minutes and I feel that McCaw's development has taken a hit with Young getting minutes that Patrick would normally be playing. I'm not stuck on McCaw either, pair them together and get a hungry combo guard.


Me too. He hasn't wowed me at all. Not sure Warriors are going to set the precedent of recruiting guys to win a ring with us and then trade them at the deadline.
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