Absurdly early 2018 NBA Draft Thread

Post #1461 » by **Jamaaliver** » Tue Feb 27, 2018 2:57 pm

macd-gm wrote:No way I even consider Carter with a top 5 pick. I'm not really sold on Bagley either but at least he has more athleticism.

Noted.

And agree...mostly.

But I wouldn't be opposed to trading back and picking him up later in the lottery.

kg01 · Post #1462 » by **kg01** » Tue Feb 27, 2018 3:01 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:
macd-gm wrote:No way I even consider Carter with a top 5 pick. I'm not really sold on Bagley either but at least he has more athleticism.

Noted.

And agree...mostly.

But I wouldn't be opposed to trading back and picking him up later in the lottery.

You want to trade a top3 pick to get down low enough to draft Carter? This ain't the NFL draft, mayne.

When you pick that high, you draft your guy. If anything, you take the lower pick and trade up.

The situation where BOS traded down and still came up smelling like roses is rare and, as I pointed out yesterday, required a series of unlikely circumstances. I ain't 'for' us trying to re-paint the Mona Lisa.

Spud2nique · Post #1463 » by **Spud2nique** » Tue Feb 27, 2018 3:13 pm

Don’t sleep on Mikal Bridges...kg, you asked who my guy is? Overall, my fav prospect is Mikal Bridges. I love Doncic and Ayton...but if I had to pick one guy regardless of hype or draft position it would be Mikal Bridges.

To me he has it all...he’s won a national championship, he’s got good size, he D’s up very nice, has potential on offense....

I’ve said this before, his stock will rise once the workouts start...might climb into the top 5 even...it’s possible.

Post #1464 » by **Jamaaliver** » Tue Feb 27, 2018 3:13 pm

kg01 wrote:You want to trade a top3 pick to get down low enough to draft Carter?

Ummm....not exactly.

I believe Ayton will produce at an incredibly high level and is worthy of #1. But I'm not sure he can lead a team to true contention alone.

If I could walk out of this draft with 2 selections in the top 12

or 3 selections in the top 15....I go for it.

IMHO: Wendall + M Porter Jr > D Ayton

I'd gladly let PHX overpay for Ayton.

kg01 · Post #1465 » by **kg01** » Tue Feb 27, 2018 3:26 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:
kg01 wrote:You want to trade a top3 pick to get down low enough to draft Carter?

Ummm....not exactly.

I believe Ayton will produce at an incredibly high level and is worthy of #1. But I'm not sure he can lead a team to true contention alone.

If I could walk out of this draft with 2 selections in the top 12

or 3 selections in the top 15....I go for it.

IMHO: Wendall + M Porter Jr > D Ayton

I'd gladly let PHX overpay for Ayton.

Give me Porter and literally anybody else and we are in agreement. I expect Carter to disappoint if drafted in the lottery. May as well draft Isaiah Wilkins in the 2nd round.

ETA: @spud2, thanks for bringing your man to the party.

Me 'n Porter will be over here chillin'.

Spud2nique · Post #1466 » by **Spud2nique** » Tue Feb 27, 2018 3:34 pm

kg01 wrote:
Jamaaliver wrote:
kg01 wrote:You want to trade a top3 pick to get down low enough to draft Carter?

Ummm....not exactly.

I believe Ayton will produce at an incredibly high level and is worthy of #1. But I'm not sure he can lead a team to true contention alone.

If I could walk out of this draft with 2 selections in the top 12

or 3 selections in the top 15....I go for it.

IMHO: Wendall + M Porter Jr > D Ayton

I'd gladly let PHX overpay for Ayton.

Give me Porter and literally anybody else and we are in agreement. I expect Carter to disappoint if drafted in the lottery. May as well draft Isaiah Wilkins in the 2nd round.

ETA: @spud2, thanks for bringing your man to the party. Me 'n Porter will be over here chillin'.

Nice! Mikal and I will be at the 724Hookah lounge next door...

Ps I like the matching Armani blue suits on you guys! You look like George Banks from Father of the Bride! :lol:

Post #1467 » by **Jamaaliver** » Tue Feb 27, 2018 3:37 pm

kg01 wrote:I expect Carter to disappoint if drafted in the lottery. May as well draft Isaiah Wilkins in the 2nd round.

There's poop everywhere in this thread...

kg01 · Post #1468 » by **kg01** » Tue Feb 27, 2018 3:46 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:
kg01 wrote:I expect Carter to disappoint if drafted in the lottery. May as well draft Isaiah Wilkins in the 2nd round.

There's poop everywhere in this thread...

Y'all are way too high on Carter. What's the role for an under-athletic, non-perimeter, 6'8(ish) "big" in 2018 NBA?

Stop being fooled by that Duke production.

ETA: Now I gotta log out for a while before @atlbbq tears me a new one.

Spud2nique · Post #1469 » by **Spud2nique** » Tue Feb 27, 2018 3:49 pm

kg01 wrote:
Jamaaliver wrote:
kg01 wrote:I expect Carter to disappoint if drafted in the lottery. May as well draft Isaiah Wilkins in the 2nd round.

There's poop everywhere in this thread...

Y'all are way too high on Carter. What's the role for an under-athletic, non-perimeter, 6'8(ish) "big" in 2018 NBA?

Stop being fooled by that Duke production.

ETA: Now I gotta log out for a while before @atlbbq tears me a new one.

What happened between you and atlbbq stays in Vegas? No really what happened...intriguing minds want to know...I want to know..-The Enquirer

Post #1470 » by **Jamaaliver** » Tue Feb 27, 2018 3:52 pm

kg01 wrote:Y'all are way too high on Carter. What's the role for an under-athletic, non-perimeter, 6'8(ish) "big" in 2018 NBA?

Stop being fooled by that Duke production.

That dude will be a solid, steady producer for years in this league. And a locker room leader.

Plus, at 19 years old, he still has plenty of room to grow.

Controversial statement: I project him to achieve Paul Millsap levels of production and efficiency. 17ppg 9rpg with excellent team defense.

kg01 · Post #1471 » by **kg01** » Tue Feb 27, 2018 3:54 pm

Spud2nique wrote:
kg01 wrote:
Jamaaliver wrote:

There's poop everywhere in this thread...

Y'all are way too high on Carter. What's the role for an under-athletic, non-perimeter, 6'8(ish) "big" in 2018 NBA?

Stop being fooled by that Duke production.

ETA: Now I gotta log out for a while before @atlbbq tears me a new one.

What happened between you and atlbbq stays in Vegas? No really what happened...intriguing minds want to know...I want to know..-The Enquirer

Oh no, we don't have any beef. I just know he's super-high on Carter so he might yell at me.

kg01 · Post #1472 » by **kg01** » Tue Feb 27, 2018 3:56 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:
kg01 wrote:Y'all are way too high on Carter. What's the role for an under-athletic, non-perimeter, 6'8(ish) "big" in 2018 NBA?

Stop being fooled by that Duke production.

That dude will be a solid, steady producer for years in this league. And a locker room leader.

Plus, at 19 years old, he still has plenty of room to grow.

Controversial statement: I project him to achieve Paul Millsap levels of production and efficiency. 17ppg 9rpg with excellent team defense.

Carter is Taj Gibson 2.0 17/9? On average? Nah. He'll have a 17/9 game or two, I bet.

I. Wilkins is Kurt Thomas, Jr. Not that different than Carter imho.

macd-gm · Post #1473 » by **macd-gm** » Tue Feb 27, 2018 4:06 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:
kg01 wrote:Y'all are way too high on Carter. What's the role for an under-athletic, non-perimeter, 6'8(ish) "big" in 2018 NBA?

Stop being fooled by that Duke production.

That dude will be a solid, steady producer for years in this league. And a locker room leader.

Plus, at 19 years old, he still has plenty of room to grow.

Controversial statement: I project him to achieve Paul Millsap levels of production and efficiency. 17ppg 9rpg with excellent team defense.

He doesn't have Sap's quickness or mobility. Seems like a mini-Zac Randolph.

Post #1474 » by **Jamaaliver** » Tue Feb 27, 2018 4:11 pm

macd-gm wrote:He doesn't have Sap's quickness or mobility. Seems like a mini-Zac Randolph.

Yeah, he won't be able to replicate that exact style of play. But he's stronger/bigger and seems capable of above avg production at the position.

thr3ep01nte4 · Post #1475 » by **thr3ep01nte4** » Tue Feb 27, 2018 4:16 pm

Read on Twitter

Spud2nique · Post #1476 » by **Spud2nique** » Tue Feb 27, 2018 4:23 pm

macd-gm wrote:
Jamaaliver wrote:
kg01 wrote:Y'all are way too high on Carter. What's the role for an under-athletic, non-perimeter, 6'8(ish) "big" in 2018 NBA?

Stop being fooled by that Duke production.

That dude will be a solid, steady producer for years in this league. And a locker room leader.

Plus, at 19 years old, he still has plenty of room to grow.

Controversial statement: I project him to achieve Paul Millsap levels of production and efficiency. 17ppg 9rpg with excellent team defense.

He doesn't have Sap's quickness or mobility. Seems like a mini-Zac Randolph.

I see Wendell Carter as a Brad Daughtery clone. He is a tall lengthy big man with good size, great BBIQ, a nice outside touch on jumpers...passing very well for a big...the only downfall to me is that he can’t get extremely physical with people in the post...but in today’s nba game that’s not a problem at all.

Brad Daugherty is the closest comparison I can’t think of off the top of my head....

Post #1477 » by **Jamaaliver** » Tue Feb 27, 2018 4:27 pm

Spud2nique wrote:Brad Daugherty is the closest comparison I can’t think of off the top of my head....

Doesn't seem too far off.

Post #1478 » by **Jamaaliver** » Tue Feb 27, 2018 4:46 pm

Read on Twitter

2. Luka Doncic
Atlanta Hawks

26. Brandon McCoy
Atlanta Hawks

30. Gary Trent Jr
Atlanta Hawks

32. Isaac Bonga
Atlanta Hawks

This mock has us taking a gamble on 4 young guys. And I like it.

Bonga is a worthy stash for the 2nd round. Trent doesn't pass or play defense, but he can light it up if he gets hot. McCoy is super raw, but could be a really solid find this late in the draft.

Spud2nique · Post #1479 » by **Spud2nique** » Tue Feb 27, 2018 5:03 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:
Spud2nique wrote:Brad Daugherty is the closest comparison I can’t think of off the top of my head....

Doesn't seem too far off.

The only thing about this is that the Cavs were an awesome regular season team for about 5 or 6 years but they couldn’t get past the 2nd round if I’m not mistaken...was any of that on Brad? Was it mainly Lenny’s system? Was it Price?

I don’t mind Daugherty’s game at all...again specially in today’s weak style of play. Weak as in physically weak.

thr3ep01nte4 · Post #1480 » by **thr3ep01nte4** » Tue Feb 27, 2018 7:05 pm

Spud2nique wrote:
The only thing about this is that the Cavs were an awesome regular season team for about 5 or 6 years but they couldn’t get past the 2nd round if I’m not mistaken...was any of that on Brad? Was it mainly Lenny’s system? Was it Price?

I don’t mind Daugherty’s game at all...again specially in today’s weak style of play. Weak as in physically weak.

How’s Carter’s defense? Don’t want to watch Jokic on Harden again.

Are you happy with the draft?