OT: Random question: how can I get a job at NYU or Columbia University?

LukaDoncic1 · Post #21 » by **LukaDoncic1** » Sat Mar 10, 2018 2:59 am

Mecca wrote:LOL at thinking you can go straight to Ivy League tier schools. You need to start out at a CUNY first.

I keep getting this advice. I have to start at CUNY first and then try for a job at NYU/Columbia. Why is that?

Mecca · Post #22 » by **Mecca** » Sat Mar 10, 2018 3:00 am

LukaDoncic1 wrote:
Mecca wrote:LOL at thinking you can go straight to Ivy League tier schools. You need to start out at a CUNY first.

I keep getting this advice. I have to start at CUNY first and then try for a job at NYU/Columbia. Why is that?

Build your resume.

LukaDoncic1 · Post #23 » by **LukaDoncic1** » Sat Mar 10, 2018 3:00 am

dakomish23 wrote:
LukaDoncic1 wrote:I want to work at NYU or Columbia University. I'm not a student of either university; I have a bachelors degree.

Thanks.

Why do you specifically want to work at these schools?

Top-tier schools, good locations (Greenwich Village and Upper West Side) and I can get tuition benefits.

LukaDoncic1 · Post #24 » by **LukaDoncic1** » Sat Mar 10, 2018 3:12 am

Mecca wrote:
LukaDoncic1 wrote:
Mecca wrote:LOL at thinking you can go straight to Ivy League tier schools. You need to start out at a CUNY first.

I keep getting this advice. I have to start at CUNY first and then try for a job at NYU/Columbia. Why is that?

Build your resume.

Ahh that makes sense. Do you reckon NYU/Columbia prefers university work experience in NYC only (ie. CUNY) or can it be from anywhere in the country (ie. University of San Francisco, Maryland, etc)?

LukaDoncic1 · Post #25 » by **LukaDoncic1** » Sat Mar 10, 2018 3:12 am

Thanks for the feedback guys!

Mecca · Post #26 » by **Mecca** » Sat Mar 10, 2018 3:13 am

LukaDoncic1 wrote:
Mecca wrote:
LukaDoncic1 wrote:
I keep getting this advice. I have to start at CUNY first and then try for a job at NYU/Columbia. Why is that?

Build your resume.

Ahh that makes sense. Do you reckon NYU/Columbia prefers university work experience in NYC only (ie. CUNY) or can it be from anywhere in the country (ie. University of San Francisco, Maryland, etc)?

anywhere.

LukaDoncic1 · Post #27 » by **LukaDoncic1** » Sat Mar 10, 2018 3:17 am

^Cool cool

Greenie · Post #28 » by **Greenie** » Sat Mar 10, 2018 5:06 am

You want to go to graduate school there while working?

Remember these words:

It’s not always what you know, it’s who you know.

Knicks Byke · Post #29 » by **Knicks Byke** » Sat Mar 10, 2018 7:07 am

Greenie wrote:You want to go to graduate school there while working?

Remember these words:

It’s not always what you know, it’s who you know.

its not the books you read, but the hands you shake.

thebuzzardman · Post #30 » by **thebuzzardman** » Sat Mar 10, 2018 11:19 am

Knicks Byke wrote:
Greenie wrote:You want to go to graduate school there while working?

Remember these words:

It’s not always what you know, it’s who you know.

its not the books you read, but the hands you shake.

This is true. Conversely, the more books you read, the more you may impress or have the hands you shake like you.

LukaDoncic1 · Post #31 » by **LukaDoncic1** » Sat Mar 10, 2018 2:22 pm

Knicks Byke wrote:
Greenie wrote:You want to go to graduate school there while working?

Remember these words:

It’s not always what you know, it’s who you know.

its not the books you read, but the hands you shake.

Touche

LukaDoncic1 · Post #32 » by **LukaDoncic1** » Sat Mar 10, 2018 2:23 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
Knicks Byke wrote:
Greenie wrote:You want to go to graduate school there while working?

Remember these words:

It’s not always what you know, it’s who you know.

its not the books you read, but the hands you shake.

This is true. Conversely, the more books you read, the more you may impress or have the hands you shake like you.

Agreed

seren · Post #33 » by **seren** » Sat Mar 10, 2018 2:26 pm

Here is my advice: Apply for the job. Wait for the outcome. You are welcome.

LukaDoncic1 · Post #34 » by **LukaDoncic1** » Sat Mar 10, 2018 2:27 pm

Greenie wrote:You want to go to graduate school there while working?

Remember these words:

It’s not always what you know, it’s who you know.

100% spot on. My hidden intention is to go to grad school, while working at either of the universities. Reduced or free tuition is quite appealing to me.

I was actually admitted to a program at Columbia GSAPP for fall 2017, but could not attend for financial reasons. I would have had to take on a student loan of $75,000+. I'm currently debt free and prefer to keep it that way.

I come from a middle-class family and I can't take the risk of student loan debt. Working at NYU/Columbia and doing night time grad school is my best option

LukaDoncic1 · Post #35 » by **LukaDoncic1** » Sat Mar 10, 2018 2:28 pm

seren wrote:Here is my advice: Apply for the job. Wait for the outcome. You are welcome.

I've been applying on both career sites since September 2017. Networked online and in-person. No interviews

seren · Post #36 » by **seren** » Sat Mar 10, 2018 2:35 pm

LukaDoncic1 wrote:
seren wrote:Here is my advice: Apply for the job. Wait for the outcome. You are welcome.

I've been applying on both career sites since September 2017. Networked online and in-person. No interviews

First time on the job market: I sent resumes over 200 positions. Across the whole country. Heck even some Canada. Took me 6 months to land a job. This is after completing a frigging PhD.

You are applying jobs with a bachelor's degree to a select few places and didn't get a call back for several months? Please. Cry me a river.

seren · Post #37 » by **seren** » Sat Mar 10, 2018 2:40 pm

LukaDoncic1 wrote:
Greenie wrote:You want to go to graduate school there while working?

Remember these words:

It’s not always what you know, it’s who you know.

100% spot on. My hidden intention is to go to grad school, while working at either of the universities. Reduced or free tuition is quite appealing to me.

I was actually admitted to a program at Columbia GSAPP for fall 2017, but could not attend for financial reasons. I would have had to take on a student loan of $75,000+. I'm currently debt free and prefer to keep it that way.

I come from a middle-class family and I can't take the risk of student loan debt. Working at NYU/Columbia and doing night time grad school is my best option

You got this reverse. These university positions are for friends and relatives. If you want to work for Columbia, you need to go get your degree there. Work odd administrative jobs that pay minimum hourly wage while studying. Then you apply for a job there and see whether you get lucky.

LukaDoncic1 · Post #38 » by **LukaDoncic1** » Sat Mar 10, 2018 2:44 pm

seren wrote:
LukaDoncic1 wrote:
Greenie wrote:You want to go to graduate school there while working?

Remember these words:

It’s not always what you know, it’s who you know.

100% spot on. My hidden intention is to go to grad school, while working at either of the universities. Reduced or free tuition is quite appealing to me.

I was actually admitted to a program at Columbia GSAPP for fall 2017, but could not attend for financial reasons. I would have had to take on a student loan of $75,000+. I'm currently debt free and prefer to keep it that way.

I come from a middle-class family and I can't take the risk of student loan debt. Working at NYU/Columbia and doing night time grad school is my best option

You got this reverse. These university positions are for friends and relatives. If you want to work for Columbia, you need to go get your degree there. Work odd administrative jobs that pay minimum hourly wage while studying. Then you apply for a job there and see whether you get lucky.

Is this friends/relatives job network just at Columbia and the Ivies? or does it apply to NYU as well? I'm not from NYC, but NYU seems less exclusive than Columbia. Both are elitist though.

On LinkedIn and meeting people, I've met people who work at NYU from non-NYU schools (St. John's University, Fordham, Parsons School of Design, etc). I see random people from places like Pittsburgh and South Carolina working for NYU -- not sure if they have a friend or relative who got them in the door for a job at the university

LukaDoncic1 · Post #39 » by **LukaDoncic1** » Sat Mar 10, 2018 2:45 pm

Lol I think I will have to save up a lot of money and then go to grad school at 40 or 45 years old -- to avoid student loan debt

Dr. Detfink · Post #40 » by **Dr. Detfink** » Sat Mar 10, 2018 4:15 pm

NYU and Columbia University are very, very scrutinizing institutions. They'll give you all the money but if you're late ONCE, if you can't meet their demands...you're gone. Simple as that. They are non-union, private institutions that mostly hire from within.

Again, they want a Specific type: No social life, able to take a lot of abuse, and most importantly can smile and make it look like you're not hurting.

The beauty of NYU is the fact, as an employee you can send your kids for free. I don't know if it's still completely free but that was true up until the mid 2000 when my friend worked as a physical therapist at NYU hospital.