Dr. Detfink wrote:thebuzzardman wrote:I'm not a Perry fan - or anti Perry - yet. But that 18 million is just replacement money from Melo. Kanter was the "cost" of shedding Melo.
There was probably an edict from Dolan to move Melo and the bad PR. Phil and Melo sniped at each other, Phil was fired, Melo got traded? Coincidence? Probably not. This is the Dolan factor. Non conspiratorial read is they wanted to accommodate Melo and remove some stink of not being a franchise that goes about things "the right way" and improve their rep with other teams, agents.
On face value,with the NTC of Melo, getting two 25 year old players, one of whom had a cheap and moveable contract, was solid.
Moving McD for Mudiay might not have been a good move. But the Melo trade can't take that into account. It's a separate action
I am going to respectfully disagree. If I was Perry, I'd say, "We'll eat MOST of Melo's remaining contract BUT you have to give us 2 First round picks, one of which may be lottery protected...and Roberson."
Perry has worked in Sacramento, Detroit....not EXACTLY institutions known for success rebuilding. Detroit is great once every 15-20 yrs. Not exactly Christmas.
Oh and the Mudiay move was a dumpster fire in the making. ANY Knicks fan who thought this was a good idea, PUNCH YOURSELF IN THE NADS. You deserve it. STUPID.
I'm not going to rehash the Melo trade. Anyway you slice it, Knicks were taking back someone who made 15 million plus and probably had some issues. Kanter seems like the sort of level of guy who would come back - not expiring, decent player, sort of overpaid. The upside he's not on the team any longer than Melo would have been. Other than Miss Cleo level stuff of when either opts in or out. It's easy to say all this and that about eating contracts etc. Who knows if such things were on offer. I'd say, on the face of it, it seems like a logical kind of trade for Melo that reasonably competent teams would make. Sure it could be better, but it always felt like "yeah, that's about what a Melo with NTC would look like"
I'm not really a Kanter fan, just facing facts. There are the deals I would like, and then reality. Kanter seems like a reality piece back. I'll be glad when he expires or is willing to play for 8 million a year as a backup. Or KOQ for that same price. Both decent, semi flawed backup C's.
I also said I'm not sold on Perry either way. He's been ok with cheap deals for cast off kind of guys who've been ok. That's solid. Mudiay trade doesn't look good right now but I understand it in theory. Even if I judge it now as bad, his track record is still "ok". It's also still early yet. Ok could turn "good" and just as easily (and likely, on the Knicks) turn bad.
don't tell me knicks whip on this pick
