Knicks | Mavs PG: Tank Championship — EPIC Edition
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Re: Knicks | Mavs PG: Tank Championship — EPIC Edition
Frank 16 minutes
Dot 9 minutes
This organization is a pitiful disgrace
Dot 9 minutes
This organization is a pitiful disgrace
Spoiler:
Jimmit79 wrote:Yea RJ played well he was definitely the x factor
#FreeJimmit
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2010 wrote:Grinditout wrote:8th pick here we come again, it’s destiny
We getting a do-over.
DENVER NUGGETS
Kyrie Irving/Josh Green/Dennis Schroder
Demar Derozan/Gordon Hayward/Amir Coffey
Torrey Craig/Gary Harris/Cedi Osman
Jarace Walker/Larry Nance Jr./Dominick Barlow
Xavier Tillman/Charles Bassey/Nick Richards
Kyrie Irving/Josh Green/Dennis Schroder
Demar Derozan/Gordon Hayward/Amir Coffey
Torrey Craig/Gary Harris/Cedi Osman
Jarace Walker/Larry Nance Jr./Dominick Barlow
Xavier Tillman/Charles Bassey/Nick Richards
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mpharris36 wrote:Greenie wrote:mpharris36 wrote:
+/- over the course of a year! when you constantly have a positive impact on the court for the most part it will eventually show up in the NET rating stat. I don't see why that is hard to understand. I have never said frank is positive that means he's great. I simple use the stat to say even if Frank is suspect right now on offense he isn't a net negative on the court.
That is all. You guys are blowing it out of proportion. And I never said you were baiting. Someone posted it to me out of nowhere to obviously bait. Why else u post it?
Don’t do that. You know damn well we talk game to game.
Let’s focus on this game.
Smith just posted a +17
Guess he was amazing.
No?
Ok. So then why last game when we were getting on Frank you literally pulled this very same stat out to say he was playing well? Not great. Well. Well enough for us to shut up.
That +17 for Smith surly means the same for you then, right?
No?
That’s the point.
game to game (the totality of the season) anyone who takes one game no matter what happens is foolish
and have I ever said stats mean everything? They are a tool. Just because you don't like them doesn't mean there not accurate.
mudiay has a horrible +/- since he's been here...is that not accurate that he hasn't been trash?
They aren't the end all be all but that assist in evaluating a player. Every front office will tell you the same.
Stats are a secondary tool.
You seem to use them as a primary one.
Stats are not always going to tell the truth about an individuals game in a TEAM sport.
Who’s on the floor with them. Who they are playing against. Scheme. Role. Them actually being humans with personalities and a life outside of basketball. These all have a toll on a players game day to day.
Basketball isn’t a science. Never will be.
That’s always been my argument with you MPH.
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HEZI wrote:2010 wrote:Grinditout wrote:8th pick here we come again, it’s destiny
We getting a do-over.
1: Young | Thompson | Vincent
2: Vassell | Mann | Primo | Butler
3: Murphy III | Hunter | Lewis
4: Wembanyama | Bridges | Wood
5: Gobert | Bitadze | Porter
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Grinditout wrote:8th pick here we come again, it’s destiny
We’ll barely play them too
Priorities
Spoiler:
Jimmit79 wrote:Yea RJ played well he was definitely the x factor
#FreeJimmit
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dakomish23 wrote:Frank 16 minutes
Dot 9 minutes
This organization is a pitiful disgrace
frank missed a couple shots in a row big f*cking deal. He had 6 assists in limited time and per usual was playing tough defense...I just don't get it. Who cares if he misses shots as long as there good shots. This is the time to let him miss.
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Cam Johnson/Josh Hart/Kenrich Williams
Alex Caruso/Killian Hayes/Aaron Wiggins
Steph Curry/Delon Wright/DSJ
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Nic Claxton/Walker Kessler/Jeff Green
Nikola Jokic/Jonathan Kuminga/Dean Wade
Cam Johnson/Josh Hart/Kenrich Williams
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2010 wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:2010 wrote:
It’s like when lil bitches make subliminal records, if it ain’t directed directly at me, I don’t respect it
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Greenie wrote:mpharris36 wrote:Greenie wrote:
Don’t do that. You know damn well we talk game to game.
Let’s focus on this game.
Smith just posted a +17
Guess he was amazing.
No?
Ok. So then why last game when we were getting on Frank you literally pulled this very same stat out to say he was playing well? Not great. Well. Well enough for us to shut up.
That +17 for Smith surly means the same for you then, right?
No?
That’s the point.
game to game (the totality of the season) anyone who takes one game no matter what happens is foolish
and have I ever said stats mean everything? They are a tool. Just because you don't like them doesn't mean there not accurate.
mudiay has a horrible +/- since he's been here...is that not accurate that he hasn't been trash?
They aren't the end all be all but that assist in evaluating a player. Every front office will tell you the same.
Stats are a secondary tool.
You seem to use them as a primary one.
Stats are not always going to tell the truth about an individuals game in a TEAM sport.
Who’s on the floor with them. Who they are playing against. Scheme. Role. Them actually being humans with personalities and a life outside of basketball. These all have a toll on a players game day to day.
Basketball isn’t a science. Never will be.
That’s always been my argument with you MPH.
agreed, I have never said otherwise. They are a complimenting tool. But you don't care for any stat. That is where we disagree. They are valuable to use. I never have said they are more important than the eye test. They can be used to backup the eye test. That is all I have ever used them for.
B2B 2021-22 & 2022-23 BAF Champion Spurs:
ROSTER
Nic Claxton/Walker Kessler/Jeff Green
Nikola Jokic/Jonathan Kuminga/Dean Wade
Cam Johnson/Josh Hart/Kenrich Williams
Alex Caruso/Killian Hayes/Aaron Wiggins
Steph Curry/Delon Wright/DSJ
ROSTER
Nic Claxton/Walker Kessler/Jeff Green
Nikola Jokic/Jonathan Kuminga/Dean Wade
Cam Johnson/Josh Hart/Kenrich Williams
Alex Caruso/Killian Hayes/Aaron Wiggins
Steph Curry/Delon Wright/DSJ
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No help from the tank!! This is impossible!! BKN and other teams were winning....when we we were. Then we fold in the 2nd half and so do they.
Tanking sucks!
Tanking sucks!
RIP mags
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2010 wrote:HEZI wrote:2010 wrote:
We getting a do-over.
trae young?
It’s like when lil bitches make subliminal records, if it ain’t directed directly at me, I don’t respect it
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mpharris36 wrote:dakomish23 wrote:Frank 16 minutes
Dot 9 minutes
This organization is a pitiful disgrace
frank missed a couple shots in a row big f*cking deal. He had 6 assists in limited time and per usual was playing tough defense...I just don't get it. Who cares if he misses shots as long as there good shots. This is the time to let him miss.
Meanwhile Dallas plays DSJ 31 minutes.
You gotta let them play through the rough stretches and come out the other side.
PT doesn’t equal development but is for sure a part of the equation.
Spoiler:
Jimmit79 wrote:Yea RJ played well he was definitely the x factor
#FreeJimmit
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3toheadmelo wrote:2010 wrote:HEZI wrote:
trae young?
NewYorkOrNoWhere!!!!!!!!!!!!
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3toheadmelo wrote:2010 wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:
1: Young | Thompson | Vincent
2: Vassell | Mann | Primo | Butler
3: Murphy III | Hunter | Lewis
4: Wembanyama | Bridges | Wood
5: Gobert | Bitadze | Porter
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2010 wrote:HEZI wrote:2010 wrote:
We getting a do-over.
DENVER NUGGETS
Kyrie Irving/Josh Green/Dennis Schroder
Demar Derozan/Gordon Hayward/Amir Coffey
Torrey Craig/Gary Harris/Cedi Osman
Jarace Walker/Larry Nance Jr./Dominick Barlow
Xavier Tillman/Charles Bassey/Nick Richards
Kyrie Irving/Josh Green/Dennis Schroder
Demar Derozan/Gordon Hayward/Amir Coffey
Torrey Craig/Gary Harris/Cedi Osman
Jarace Walker/Larry Nance Jr./Dominick Barlow
Xavier Tillman/Charles Bassey/Nick Richards
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2010 wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:2010 wrote:
NewYorkOrNoWhere!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I hope some Knicks are happy with Frank
Cant even lie to myself that he was not the wrong pick and isn't a trash most of the season
Cant even lie to myself that he was not the wrong pick and isn't a trash most of the season
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6th seed is definitely possible now top 3 odds jumping from %6 to %25 crazy
B: L. Doncic | J. Carter | D. Banton
B: D. Melton | A. Burks
B: B. Ingram | K. Oubre | J. Tate
B: Z. Williamson | DJJ | K. Lofton Jr
B: KP | D. Powell
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I don't think Kanter is in our plans, not a tough enough defender at that price. That is one position you need defense like Capela on the Rockets.
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HEZI wrote:2010 wrote:HEZI wrote:
NewYorkOrNoWhere!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Red Vines wrote:I don't think Kanter is in our plans, not a tough enough defender at that price. That is one position you need defense like Capela on the Rockets.
like KP?
B2B 2021-22 & 2022-23 BAF Champion Spurs:
ROSTER
Nic Claxton/Walker Kessler/Jeff Green
Nikola Jokic/Jonathan Kuminga/Dean Wade
Cam Johnson/Josh Hart/Kenrich Williams
Alex Caruso/Killian Hayes/Aaron Wiggins
Steph Curry/Delon Wright/DSJ
ROSTER
Nic Claxton/Walker Kessler/Jeff Green
Nikola Jokic/Jonathan Kuminga/Dean Wade
Cam Johnson/Josh Hart/Kenrich Williams
Alex Caruso/Killian Hayes/Aaron Wiggins
Steph Curry/Delon Wright/DSJ