Trae Young

[doordoor123]

I've been saying for 2 months that Trae has the worst teammates in major college basketball. That was on full display in yesterday's game. Every single one of them is complete trash.

But, in the end it's Trae's fault because he could've gone to any school in the country and since he lives in Norman he knew full well what he was getting himself into this year.

I was just thinking, if you replaced Sexton with Young Alabama would actually be a better team. No knock on Sexton, who is my favorite player in the draft, Young is just better right now and Sexton isn’t the playmaker Young is.

[SeattleJazzFan]

https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2764689-i-dont-see-it-nba-scouts-execs-doubting-trae-young-after-ncaa-tourney-exit.amp.html

This part particularly stands out as outright comedy (the bolded):

At 6'2", 180 pounds and with short arms, minimal explosiveness and a heavy reliance on threes (10.3 attempts per game, 36.1 percent) and free throws (8.6 attempts per game), Young has size and scoring limitations that concern scouts.

We're talking about a guy who's coming into a league where at least one team (a very successful one) had a "3s or layups (/fouls)" offensive system last year. But now that's a limitation? Really ...

What they are saying is that he can’t score unless he has a 3-ball going. Just because you can shoot a 3, that doesn’t mean you are going to be an impact player in the NBA. You have to be able to create space, make passes, dribble drive as well as a PG. He is going to struggle mightily in the NBA. He should be a 2nd rounder.


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if that's what they are saying, it completely contradicts the stat they threw out. they said that besides having a heavy reliance on 3s, he also has a heavy reliance on FTs - that means he's getting to the basket, shooting layups. so based on their own stats, the 3 ball is not the only way he can score. also, if you watch him, he is about 3s and layups, which is exactly where the NBA is at right now. he was right - that was outright comedy.

[SeattleJazzFan]

he's tony parker with high assist numbers.

[yoyoboy]

I really hope people continue to project Trae Young as worthy of nothing beyond on a later first rounder so that he falls to my Cavs.

[doordoor123]

I really hope people continue to project Trae Young as worthy of nothing beyond on a later first rounder so that he falls to my Cavs.

It’s super unlikely the Cavs draft him only because they have so many other needs and have Hill/Clarkson signed on the team next year.

[yoyoboy]

I really hope people continue to project Trae Young as worthy of nothing beyond on a later first rounder so that he falls to my Cavs.

It’s super unlikely the Cavs draft him only because they have so many other needs and have Hill/Clarkson signed on the team next year.

Clarkson is so bad and Hill has been disappointing. Then again so has Hood. We could really use a SG or C, but we're not going to be in the position to draft Doncic or Ayton/JJJ/Bamba, so I'd much rather take Young than Wendell Carter.

[916fan]

This part particularly stands out as outright comedy (the bolded):



We're talking about a guy who's coming into a league where at least one team (a very successful one) had a "3s or layups (/fouls)" offensive system last year. But now that's a limitation? Really ...

What they are saying is that he can’t score unless he has a 3-ball going. Just because you can shoot a 3, that doesn’t mean you are going to be an impact player in the NBA. You have to be able to create space, make passes, dribble drive as well as a PG. He is going to struggle mightily in the NBA. He should be a 2nd rounder.


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I agree with you here. He really should be a 2nd rounder. I feel like he will get over-drafted due to his young age and the Curry factor but he's not close to ready to even be a backup in the NBA right now. He needs a year in the G-League. His floor reminds me of Dennis Schroeder out of Germany during his draft. His ceiling does as well. That's a good thing. That means he could develop into an average starting PG but he needs a lot of help like good coaching and a development club.

lmao why would a Dennis Schroeder out of Germany only warrant a 2nd round pick? Give me 30 players who are better than him in this draft. Give me 5PGs who are better than him in this draft.

Calling him a 2nd round prospect is straight up trolling.

[bwgood77]

I really hope people continue to project Trae Young as worthy of nothing beyond on a later first rounder so that he falls to my Cavs.

He will go in the lottery. Unless you are talking about him falling to the Nets pick.

[yoyoboy]

I really hope people continue to project Trae Young as worthy of nothing beyond on a later first rounder so that he falls to my Cavs.

He will go in the lottery. Unless you are talking about him falling to the Nets pick.

Yeah, we don't have our own pick, just the Nets one.

[daoneandonly]

What they are saying is that he can’t score unless he has a 3-ball going. Just because you can shoot a 3, that doesn’t mean you are going to be an impact player in the NBA. You have to be able to create space, make passes, dribble drive as well as a PG. He is going to struggle mightily in the NBA. He should be a 2nd rounder.


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I agree with you here. He really should be a 2nd rounder. I feel like he will get over-drafted due to his young age and the Curry factor but he's not close to ready to even be a backup in the NBA right now. He needs a year in the G-League. His floor reminds me of Dennis Schroeder out of Germany during his draft. His ceiling does as well. That's a good thing. That means he could develop into an average starting PG but he needs a lot of help like good coaching and a development club.

lmao why would a Dennis Schroeder out of Germany only warrant a 2nd round pick? Give me 30 players who are better than him in this draft. Give me 5PGs who are better than him in this draft.

Calling him a 2nd round prospect is straight up trolling.

When you factor in contract, it's not that far fetched. Shroeder sucks (except when he's playing my hapless Mavs)

[bwgood77]

I really hope people continue to project Trae Young as worthy of nothing beyond on a later first rounder so that he falls to my Cavs.

He will go in the lottery. Unless you are talking about him falling to the Nets pick.

Yeah, we don't have our own pick, just the Nets one.

Yeah, if the Suns drop to 5 or 6, he'd definitely be in the conversation. Maybe at 4. I think The Stepien probably has the best rankings out there and their tiers are pretty solid. https://www.thestepien.com/2018-draft-rankings/

[nolang1]

https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2764689-i-dont-see-it-nba-scouts-execs-doubting-trae-young-after-ncaa-tourney-exit.amp.html

This part particularly stands out as outright comedy (the bolded):

At 6'2", 180 pounds and with short arms, minimal explosiveness and a heavy reliance on threes (10.3 attempts per game, 36.1 percent) and free throws (8.6 attempts per game), Young has size and scoring limitations that concern scouts.

We're talking about a guy who's coming into a league where at least one team (a very successful one) had a "3s or layups (/fouls)" offensive system last year. But now that's a limitation? Really ...

The worry is that in the NBA you can play him straight up, stay home on the shooters, and make him try to beat you on contested layups (and he’s not going to be helping his own cause, so to speak, on defense). James Harden gets crap for getting to the line a lot but the vast majority of the time he’s put opponents in a position where they’re either getting scored on or fouling. Young has a different ratio of skill at drawing fouls to skill at actually finishing layups.

To be clear, for me this is more a worry against better defensive teams/in the playoffs than something that’s going to hold him back from making it in the NBA altogether. So without knowing the context the concerns themselves are legitimate.

[JMac1]

https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2764689-i-dont-see-it-nba-scouts-execs-doubting-trae-young-after-ncaa-tourney-exit.amp.html

This part particularly stands out as outright comedy (the bolded):

At 6'2", 180 pounds and with short arms, minimal explosiveness and a heavy reliance on threes (10.3 attempts per game, 36.1 percent) and free throws (8.6 attempts per game), Young has size and scoring limitations that concern scouts.

We're talking about a guy who's coming into a league where at least one team (a very successful one) had a "3s or layups (/fouls)" offensive system last year. But now that's a limitation? Really ...

The worry is that in the NBA you can play him straight up, stay home on the shooters, and make him try to beat you on contested layups (and he’s not going to be helping his own cause, so to speak, on defense). James Harden gets crap for getting to the line a lot but the vast majority of the time he’s put opponents in a position where they’re either getting scored on or fouling. Young has a different ratio of skill at drawing fouls to skill at actually finishing layups.

To be clear, for me this is more a worry against better defensive teams/in the playoffs than something that’s going to hold him back from making it in the NBA altogether. So without knowing the context the concerns themselves are legitimate.

That’s a solid point. Can he beat people off of the dribble or create a reasonable amount of space to get a clean look versus challenged shots. That’s where his workouts will come into play.

[SeattleJazzFan]

I really hope people continue to project Trae Young as worthy of nothing beyond on a later first rounder so that he falls to my Cavs.

until the Cavs learn how to defend, they aren't going anywhere. Trae Young doesn't help that cause.

[yoyoboy]

He will go in the lottery. Unless you are talking about him falling to the Nets pick.

Yeah, we don't have our own pick, just the Nets one.

Yeah, if the Suns drop to 5 or 6, he'd definitely be in the conversation. Maybe at 4. I think The Stepien probably has the best rankings out there and their tiers are pretty solid. https://www.thestepien.com/2018-draft-rankings/

Oh yeah I like those a lot better than the ones you see on nbadraft.net and ESPN. I have Bagley, Sexton, Miles Bridges, and Knox a lot lower than most people.

[azcatz11]

He cost his team the game yesterday by taking a couple of quick pull up 40 footers. Dude really thinks he's Steph. He is going to get manhandled in the league

[MemphisX]

He cost his team the game yesterday by taking a couple of quick pull up 40 footers. Dude really thinks he's Steph. He is going to get manhandled in the league

Yeah, he should have passed to his wonderful teammates.

[azcatz11]

He cost his team the game yesterday by taking a couple of quick pull up 40 footers. Dude really thinks he's Steph. He is going to get manhandled in the league

Yeah, he should have passed to his wonderful teammates.

You thought those were good shots?

[Justwar]

It's why good players didn't want to play with him

[RookieStar]

Dam* if you do, Dam* if you don't.

I think it's almost 50/50... everyone gets mad at him if he passes to his teammates ( who looks like they are just regular YMCA weekend warriors ) but also they get mad at him if shoots. What's a guy to do?

I don't like selfish me-ball but at the same time, if you wanna win, there are times when you do have to do it yourself rather than pass it to guys who will just make a blooper.