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Re: Political Roundtable Part XIX 

Post#801 » by closg00 » Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:15 am

stilldropin20 wrote:good thing we have been busy talking about nonesense all week. public missed this one.
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Hadn't seen this, oh-boy, there must be many pending cases
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XIX 

Post#802 » by cammac » Tue Mar 20, 2018 12:37 pm

I think Mueller has a growing list of co-conspirators in his investigations.
Sessions....obstruction of justice and perjury!
The obstruction of justice charge will evolve around the firing of Comey & McCabe. The McCabe especially since he has recused himself from the Russian investigation.

I think Mueller has a growing list of co-conspirators in his investigations.
Sessions....obstruction of justice and perjury!
The obstruction of justice charge will evolve around the firing of Comey & McCabe. The McCabe especially since he has recused himself from the Russian investigation.


U.S. Attorney General Jeff Sessions’ testimony that he opposed a proposal for President Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign team to meet with Russians has been contradicted by three people who told Reuters they have spoken about the matter to investigators with Special Counsel Robert Mueller or congressional committees.


Bannon & Mercers so much black money involved plus the Cambridge Analytica.

Cambridge Analytica employed non-American citizens to work on US election campaigns in apparent violation of federal law, despite receiving a legal warning about the risks.

The company’s responsibilities under US law were laid out in a lawyer’s memo to the company’s vice-president, Steve Bannon, British CEO Alexander Nix and Rebekah Mercer, daughter of billionaire owner Robert Mercer, in July 2014. It made it clear that most senior and mid-level positions involving strategy, planning, fundraising or campaigning needed to be filled by US citizens.


The new disclosures should renew serious questions about collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia. The dual allegiances of the Russian American middleman Kogan — who before hooking up with CA performed at least one research project for the Russian government — should raise eyebrows; so should a CA presentation on its American election work given to top executives of the Russian oil giant Lukoil, which (like most successful Russian businesses) has close ties to its country’s leader, Vladimir Putin. Special counsel Robert Mueller has already indicted 13 Russians and a St. Petersburg-based “troll farm” for targeting Americans with bitter messages on Facebook in a way that dovetails with and amplifies exactly what CA was trying to accomplish. Coincidence? Or collusion? That’s a question for Mueller and his team that arguably ranks second in stature behind only: What did the president know and when did he know it?
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XIX 

Post#803 » by Wizardspride » Tue Mar 20, 2018 1:12 pm

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President Donald Trump referred to African countries, Haiti and El Salvador as "shithole" nations during a meeting Thursday and asked why the U.S. can't have more immigrants from Norway.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XIX 

Post#804 » by Pointgod » Tue Mar 20, 2018 2:15 pm

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Oh boy. Don't let the progressive wing get started on Kamala Harris.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XIX 

Post#805 » by I_Like_Dirt » Tue Mar 20, 2018 2:29 pm

dckingsfan wrote:Facebook certainly is going to have a lot of liability on this one... One would think a very large class action is coming their way.


One would normally think that. There are so many red flags popping up there it's amazing. I'm not so sure we will see that happen, though. Just a hunch on my part, but the political and social realities of the present are... concerning.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XIX 

Post#806 » by dckingsfan » Tue Mar 20, 2018 2:31 pm

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dckingsfan wrote:Facebook certainly is going to have a lot of liability on this one... One would think a very large class action is coming their way.


One would normally think that. There are so many red flags popping up there it's amazing. I'm not so sure we will see that happen, though. Just a hunch on my part, but the political and social realities of the present are... concerning.

37B here, 37B there - pretty soon it becomes real money.

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-43462423
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XIX 

Post#807 » by stilldropin20 » Tue Mar 20, 2018 2:33 pm

cammac wrote:I think Mueller has a growing list of co-conspirators in his investigations.
Sessions....obstruction of justice and perjury!
The obstruction of justice charge will evolve around the firing of Comey & McCabe. The McCabe especially since he has recused himself from the Russian investigation.

I think Mueller has a growing list of co-conspirators in his investigations.
Sessions....obstruction of justice and perjury!
The obstruction of justice charge will evolve around the firing of Comey & McCabe. The McCabe especially since he has recused himself from the Russian investigation.


U.S. Attorney General Jeff Sessions’ testimony that he opposed a proposal for President Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign team to meet with Russians has been contradicted by three people who told Reuters they have spoken about the matter to investigators with Special Counsel Robert Mueller or congressional committees.


Bannon & Mercers so much black money involved plus the Cambridge Analytica.

Cambridge Analytica employed non-American citizens to work on US election campaigns in apparent violation of federal law, despite receiving a legal warning about the risks.

The company’s responsibilities under US law were laid out in a lawyer’s memo to the company’s vice-president, Steve Bannon, British CEO Alexander Nix and Rebekah Mercer, daughter of billionaire owner Robert Mercer, in July 2014. It made it clear that most senior and mid-level positions involving strategy, planning, fundraising or campaigning needed to be filled by US citizens.


The new disclosures should renew serious questions about collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia. The dual allegiances of the Russian American middleman Kogan — who before hooking up with CA performed at least one research project for the Russian government — should raise eyebrows; so should a CA presentation on its American election work given to top executives of the Russian oil giant Lukoil, which (like most successful Russian businesses) has close ties to its country’s leader, Vladimir Putin. Special counsel Robert Mueller has already indicted 13 Russians and a St. Petersburg-based “troll farm” for targeting Americans with bitter messages on Facebook in a way that dovetails with and amplifies exactly what CA was trying to accomplish. Coincidence? Or collusion? That’s a question for Mueller and his team that arguably ranks second in stature behind only: What did the president know and when did he know it?

Sessions was a 20 year sitting us senator.

I never liked him nor much of his policies. But The chances he colluded with Russians are slim and none. The chances he was aware of collusion are slim and none.

Potential collusion was the only reason he recused himself. And collusion was the only reason that mueller was hired.

Since there is and has been no collusion, there’s no reason at this point for sessions unrecuse himself and resume control of the DOJ. Which I suspect will happen one way or another.


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Re: Political Roundtable Part XIX 

Post#808 » by gtn130 » Tue Mar 20, 2018 2:53 pm

Facebook is a massively negative contributor to society and we should all delete our accounts
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XIX 

Post#809 » by Wizardspride » Tue Mar 20, 2018 2:59 pm

gtn130 wrote:Facebook is a massively negative contributor to society and we should all delete our accounts

Facebook (along with ancestry.com) helped me connect with family members I never knew existed so its been a positive in that regard.

But overall? Yeah, I think we'd all be better off without it.

Heck, not to sound like an old geezer but sometimes I think we'd be better off without the ability to text as well.

There's something to be said for ACTUALLY calling someone and having a conversation.

Maybe I am old. :lol:

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XIX 

Post#810 » by Wizardspride » Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:04 pm

Pointgod wrote:
Wizardspride wrote:
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Oh boy. Don't let the progressive wing get started on Kamala Harris.

They've already have to a certain extent. :nonono:

President Donald Trump referred to African countries, Haiti and El Salvador as "shithole" nations during a meeting Thursday and asked why the U.S. can't have more immigrants from Norway.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XIX 

Post#811 » by I_Like_Dirt » Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:09 pm

dckingsfan wrote:37B here, 37B there - pretty soon it becomes real money.

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-43462423


Oh absolutely! Facebook is going down like myspace before it - I'm honestly surprised it lasted as long as it did. Lawsuits though? Yeah, we will see. I'm thinking when the lawsuits come, they're more going to be investors who had their money wiped out rather than privacy issues. And Zuckerburg already started his exit plan a while ago. At least the crash happened soon enough to hit him before he sold all the stocks he was planning to, but the real losers here are going to be all the small time investors who decided to invest in facebook and then lost everything over it. That type of class action lawsuit usually has trouble holding together provided facebook took care of it's major investors, which I suspect is the case. At the very least I hope this kills the idea of Zuckerburg running on the Democratic ticket, though given the backgrounds of so many politicians, I'm not willing to write him off running for either party at this stage.

And it's this kind of stuff that happens everywhere which is why deregulation is a bad idea and legislated deregulation is just ridiculous. Now that the banks have been deregulated again, not that they were regulated all that well in the first place, let's deregulate food or education or immigration or something and have a jolly good time. Frankly, the internet is exhibit A of why less regulation is a terrible, terrible idea in real life.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XIX 

Post#812 » by TGW » Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:17 pm

Wizardspride wrote:
Pointgod wrote:
Wizardspride wrote:
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Oh boy. Don't let the progressive wing get started on Kamala Harris.

They've already have to a certain extent. :nonono:


she already effed up by connecting herself to Hillary. Political miscalculation already.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XIX 

Post#813 » by cammac » Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:22 pm

There has been another high school shooting, this time at Great Mills High School in Maryland, approximately 60 miles south of Washington, D.C. Details from NBC Washington:

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/3/20/1750472/-Shooting-reported-at-a-Maryland-high-school-sheriff-s-office-confirms-multiple-injuries
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XIX 

Post#814 » by cammac » Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:34 pm

Wizardspride wrote:
gtn130 wrote:Facebook is a massively negative contributor to society and we should all delete our accounts

Facebook (along with ancestry.com) helped me connect with family members I never knew existed so its been a positive in that regard.

But overall? Yeah, I think we'd all be better off without it.

Heck, not to sound like an old geezer but sometimes I think we'd be better off without the ability to text as well.

There's something to be said for ACTUALLY calling someone and having a conversation.

Maybe I am old. :lol:


Well think a number of posters belong to the geezer brigade! :lol: :lol:
But that is important the baby boomers have been a integral part of the Reptilian machine voting against their own best interests. Hopefully that is changing.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XIX 

Post#815 » by Wizardspride » Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:56 pm

TGW wrote:
Wizardspride wrote:
Pointgod wrote:
Oh boy. Don't let the progressive wing get started on Kamala Harris.

They've already have to a certain extent. :nonono:


she already effed up by connecting herself to Hillary. Political miscalculation already.

Did she connect herself to Hillary or just not shun her?

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XIX 

Post#816 » by Pointgod » Tue Mar 20, 2018 4:00 pm

TGW wrote:
Wizardspride wrote:
Pointgod wrote:
Oh boy. Don't let the progressive wing get started on Kamala Harris.

They've already have to a certain extent. :nonono:


she already effed up by connecting herself to Hillary. Political miscalculation already.


Lol right on cue.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XIX 

Post#817 » by Wizardspride » Tue Mar 20, 2018 4:09 pm

Pointgod wrote:
TGW wrote:
Wizardspride wrote:They've already have to a certain extent. :nonono:


she already effed up by connecting herself to Hillary. Political miscalculation already.


Lol right on cue.

I'm fairly confident she will be the nominee so people will just have to deal with it....or not.

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XIX 

Post#818 » by closg00 » Tue Mar 20, 2018 4:21 pm

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I think she is hot, but I am underwhelmed by her. I don’t think she could beat Trump.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XIX 

Post#819 » by TGW » Tue Mar 20, 2018 4:24 pm

Wizardspride wrote:
Pointgod wrote:
TGW wrote:
she already effed up by connecting herself to Hillary. Political miscalculation already.


Lol right on cue.

I'm fairly confident she will be the nominee so people will just have to deal with it....or not.


The polls don't agree with you. Even among establishment candidates, she's not at the top of the list. Joe Biden is kicking her ass right now.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XIX 

Post#820 » by TGW » Tue Mar 20, 2018 4:25 pm

Pointgod wrote:
TGW wrote:
Wizardspride wrote:They've already have to a certain extent. :nonono:


she already effed up by connecting herself to Hillary. Political miscalculation already.


Lol right on cue.


You're a DNC butt kisser. Shut up.
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