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Game 78: Utah Jazz (43-33) @ Minnesota Timberwolves (44-33) - 7:00 PM ET

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Re: Game 78: Utah Jazz (43-33) @ Minnesota Timberwolves (44-33) - 7:00 PM ET 

Post#221 » by PharmD » Mon Apr 2, 2018 12:57 am

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So our offense has been bad every year Rubio has been in the league?

No, that is not my point. THE OFFENSE IS THE PROBLEM! Minnesota’s offense was phenomenal with Rick Adelman and still good with Flip (despite his shortcomings on adapting to the modern NBA). The issue is that Minnesota runs an iso-heavy offense that devalues efficiency, this idea that Ricky was a reason that our spacing was poor the previous two seasons is objectively ludicrous (every stat proved it), and that the terrible offense and prioritizing of player roles is clearly the problem that leads to such inefficiency.

Cut out Jamal, limit Wiggins, feature Towns, and give Nemanja free-reign. This is basic stuff that literally anybody should realize would make our spacing and efficiency better. It is painfully obvious.

I'm with you on our offense. I think its not good. I know we put up numbers but we are easy to shut down and I think, predictable. I'm not a fan of the system. Our defense is an absolute joke.

Our offense relies on individual brilliance. When guys are out or something...

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Re: Game 78: Utah Jazz (43-33) @ Minnesota Timberwolves (44-33) - 7:00 PM ET 

Post#222 » by theGreatRC » Mon Apr 2, 2018 12:57 am

Biggest game of the year and we played with two hands around our necks. Pathetic.

I don't care if you're down two starters, you can just tell after we got punched in the mouth that we had no heart to fight back. Completely selfish iso basketball & non existent defense
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Post#223 » by Mattya » Mon Apr 2, 2018 12:58 am

This team is garbage defensively alllllll season long. Yet the same posters who cited offensive efficiency when Rubio was on the team and used logic to show that defense was a problem are now saying our offense is the problem and ignoring the offensive statistics they used to cite.
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Re: Game 78: Utah Jazz (43-33) @ Minnesota Timberwolves (44-33) - 7:00 PM ET 

Post#224 » by Crazy-Canuck » Mon Apr 2, 2018 12:59 am

Jazz defend like animals because they know gobert has their back.

Minny are so worried about a lack of help that they dont have trust on the floor.
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Re: Game 78: Utah Jazz (43-33) @ Minnesota Timberwolves (44-33) - 7:00 PM ET 

Post#225 » by MN7725 » Mon Apr 2, 2018 12:59 am

Calinks wrote:Well I am going to flat out say it. I don't believe in this team. We can be fun to watch and when healthy we can make some noise but I truly don't think we are a good team. I think we are probably the worst team in the playoff on the Western conference side. This is year 1 on the path to being good and hopefully we can refine and improve every year but we don't got it right now. This defense will not cut it. Our offense will not cut it. I don't think our style of play has legs either. I think Thibs will have to make some big changes if he wants to build a real contender here and I don't know if he's flexible enough to do that.

I think what we lack most as a team is an identity. We got no bread and butter, no hallmark, we don't have the confidence and poise that comes with having that. I think we will make the playoffs, this loss wont stop that, but this was a playoff game and we were not at all up to the challenge. We got blown out at home and I am not seeing the fight. I have enjoyed this season and look forward to the playoffs but this is def not a year where I am saying "I love this team!" We are better than we have been in a long time but as Chuck would say "we aint ready." And I am even talking about that as a contender. We aint ready to play a solid playoff team.


Good chance this year’s squad will be best roster given the financial issues upcoming

Maybe wolves can hit on a late pick that can contribute
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Re: Game 78: Utah Jazz (43-33) @ Minnesota Timberwolves (44-33) - 7:00 PM ET 

Post#226 » by Calinks » Mon Apr 2, 2018 12:59 am

Domejandro wrote:Loser-mentality incoming, but wouldn’t we be better off just accepting getting the ninth or tenth seed and rolling into the off-season with #14 and #20?

We are better off getting into the postseason and taking our ass kicking by a team that shows everyone of the staff what a playoff team should look like. We need to taste the fire. Players and coaching staff. Thibs needs to learn he cant roll out a shallow squad like this and expect to be great.
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Re: Game 78: Utah Jazz (43-33) @ Minnesota Timberwolves (44-33) - 7:00 PM ET 

Post#227 » by Bucketgetter » Mon Apr 2, 2018 12:59 am

PharmD wrote:Seems like it'd be smart to get the starters out down 25 with 7 min left. Especially as they've been playing like 43 min/g and have another big game with Denver next.

One would think...
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Re: Game 78: Utah Jazz (43-33) @ Minnesota Timberwolves (44-33) - 7:00 PM ET 

Post#228 » by CP1981 » Mon Apr 2, 2018 1:00 am

Just play the youngins
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Re: Game 78: Utah Jazz (43-33) @ Minnesota Timberwolves (44-33) - 7:00 PM ET 

Post#229 » by Murphs56 » Mon Apr 2, 2018 1:00 am

The Nuggets might really be our demise. 2 games left against them. A team that can really shoot the 3.
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Post#230 » by D1SGRUNTL3D » Mon Apr 2, 2018 1:01 am

Jazz go on like a 60-24 run after the Tyus missed dunk. f*ck our lives
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Re: Game 78: Utah Jazz (43-33) @ Minnesota Timberwolves (44-33) - 7:00 PM ET 

Post#231 » by D1SGRUNTL3D » Mon Apr 2, 2018 1:01 am

Murphs56 wrote:The Nuggets might really be our demise. 2 games left against them. A team that can really shoot the 3.

Remember when some were happy about Denver winning in OKC the other night?
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Re: Game 78: Utah Jazz (43-33) @ Minnesota Timberwolves (44-33) - 7:00 PM ET 

Post#232 » by CP1981 » Mon Apr 2, 2018 1:02 am

Kat doesn't even attempt to defend
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Re: Game 78: Utah Jazz (43-33) @ Minnesota Timberwolves (44-33) - 7:00 PM ET 

Post#233 » by Calinks » Mon Apr 2, 2018 1:02 am

I think for us to play our best without Jimmy Bjelly has to be a part of the team. Coaches have to get him involved. We need everything we can get.
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Post#234 » by MN7725 » Mon Apr 2, 2018 1:02 am

Murphs56 wrote:The Nuggets might really be our demise. 2 games left against them. A team that can really shoot the 3.


No clue why people were happy they beat OKC other night, could have been knock out loss for den

Wolves needed the separation, haven’t played well since Clips game
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Post#235 » by PharmD » Mon Apr 2, 2018 1:03 am

Crazy-Canuck wrote:Jazz defend like animals because they know gobert has their back.

Minny are so worried about a lack of help that they dont have trust on the floor.

Well that and they're deep and can get rest. Our dudes, um, cannot.
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Post#236 » by life_saver » Mon Apr 2, 2018 1:03 am

We missed Teague badly
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Post#237 » by Mattya » Mon Apr 2, 2018 1:04 am

CP1981 wrote:Kat doesn't even attempt to defend


This team on the rare chance they attempt to defend is usually incompetent at it as well.
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Re: Game 78: Utah Jazz (43-33) @ Minnesota Timberwolves (44-33) - 7:00 PM ET 

Post#238 » by Domejandro » Mon Apr 2, 2018 1:04 am

Calinks wrote:
Domejandro wrote:Loser-mentality incoming, but wouldn’t we be better off just accepting getting the ninth or tenth seed and rolling into the off-season with #14 and #20?

We are better off getting into the postseason and taking our ass kicking by a team that shows everyone of the staff what a playoff team should look like. We need to taste the fire. Players and coaching staff. Thibs needs to learn he cant roll out a shallow squad like this and expect to be great.

Maybe it is just me, but I don't have faith that it would mean anything. All that would happen is the excuse of "it was a young team's first shot at the big stage!" That is always what the excuse is with this team.... always "youth and inexperience"; I really have no faith that it wouldn't be seen as anything but that.
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Post#239 » by D1SGRUNTL3D » Mon Apr 2, 2018 1:04 am

upriser7 wrote:We missed Teague badly

haha, he wouldn't have mattered.
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Re: Game 78: Utah Jazz (43-33) @ Minnesota Timberwolves (44-33) - 7:00 PM ET 

Post#240 » by Domejandro » Mon Apr 2, 2018 1:05 am

Calinks wrote:I think for us to play our best without Jimmy Bjelly has to be a part of the team. Coaches have to get him involved. We need everything we can get.

Bjelica is legitimately one of our better players, it really frustrates me how under-utilized he is.

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