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Re: Fake Trade Thread 

Post#181 » by stinger14 » Sun Apr 8, 2018 7:17 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:
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MasterIchiro wrote:Lamb for Jerian Grant + Bulls 2nd.

Develop the young core...

Kemba - Grant
Monk - Bacon
MKG - Batum
Kaminsky - Marvin
Cody - Dwight - Hernangomez

Lamb is one of the three players i definitely want to keep (others are Kemba and Monk). Hes easily our best wing, hes still young and improving, and his contract is amazing.


A one-year contract. And no cap to extend him without hitting the luxury tax unless you want to let Frank walk. Frank hit 38% of his threes this year. We lose Frank or Lamb for nothing unless we pay the luxury tax with Kemba or let Kemba walk.


I would rather have Lamb opposed to Frank if I had to choose. Same shooter from deep, but Lamb is better from 2, and is a better rebounder. Why is it that our shooting guard rebounds better, and shoots better inside the arc than our 7 footer? Because that 7 footer is soft, clumsy, scared of contact, and does not take the ball up strong no matter how small the other player is. I love the shooting this year, but overall Frank has a lot of work to do to be a good NBA player. Lamb is explosive on the offensive end. Neither are good defenders, but Lamb having more athletic ability gives him a better chance at continuing the improvements made so far.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 

Post#182 » by MasterIchiro » Sun Apr 8, 2018 7:23 pm

stinger14 wrote:
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Braggins wrote:Lamb is one of the three players i definitely want to keep (others are Kemba and Monk). Hes easily our best wing, hes still young and improving, and his contract is amazing.


A one-year contract. And no cap to extend him without hitting the luxury tax unless you want to let Frank walk. Frank hit 38% of his threes this year. We lose Frank or Lamb for nothing unless we pay the luxury tax with Kemba or let Kemba walk.


I would rather have Lamb opposed to Frank if I had to choose. Same shooter from deep, but Lamb is better from 2, and is a better rebounder. Why is it that our shooting guard rebounds better, and shoots better inside the arc than our 7 footer? Because that 7 footer is soft, clumsy, scared of contact, and does not take the ball up strong no matter how small the other player is. I love the shooting this year, but overall Frank has a lot of work to do to be a good NBA player. Lamb is explosive on the offensive end. Neither are good defenders, but Lamb having more athletic ability gives him a better chance at continuing the improvements made so far.


Well you and Braggins would rather lose Kaminsky for nothing.

I would rather lose NEITHER for nothing.

Thus my Lamb proposal.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 

Post#183 » by stinger14 » Sun Apr 8, 2018 7:25 pm

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A one-year contract. And no cap to extend him without hitting the luxury tax unless you want to let Frank walk. Frank hit 38% of his threes this year. We lose Frank or Lamb for nothing unless we pay the luxury tax with Kemba or let Kemba walk.


I would rather have Lamb opposed to Frank if I had to choose. Same shooter from deep, but Lamb is better from 2, and is a better rebounder. Why is it that our shooting guard rebounds better, and shoots better inside the arc than our 7 footer? Because that 7 footer is soft, clumsy, scared of contact, and does not take the ball up strong no matter how small the other player is. I love the shooting this year, but overall Frank has a lot of work to do to be a good NBA player. Lamb is explosive on the offensive end. Neither are good defenders, but Lamb having more athletic ability gives him a better chance at continuing the improvements made so far.


Well you and Braggins would rather lose Kaminsky for nothing.

I would rather lose NEITHER for nothing.

Thus my Lamb proposal.


Never said for nothing. Where did you see that? I would look to see his trade value. Frank may be able to be packaged with a contract, or may fetch a later 1st round pick
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 

Post#184 » by MasterIchiro » Sun Apr 8, 2018 7:29 pm

stinger14 wrote:
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I would rather have Lamb opposed to Frank if I had to choose. Same shooter from deep, but Lamb is better from 2, and is a better rebounder. Why is it that our shooting guard rebounds better, and shoots better inside the arc than our 7 footer? Because that 7 footer is soft, clumsy, scared of contact, and does not take the ball up strong no matter how small the other player is. I love the shooting this year, but overall Frank has a lot of work to do to be a good NBA player. Lamb is explosive on the offensive end. Neither are good defenders, but Lamb having more athletic ability gives him a better chance at continuing the improvements made so far.


Well you and Braggins would rather lose Kaminsky for nothing.

I would rather lose NEITHER for nothing.

Thus my Lamb proposal.


Never said for nothing. Where did you see that? I would look to see his trade value. Frank may be able to be packaged with a contract, or may fetch a later 1st round pick


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Re: Fake Trade Thread 

Post#185 » by stinger14 » Sun Apr 8, 2018 7:45 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:
stinger14 wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:
Well you and Braggins would rather lose Kaminsky for nothing.

I would rather lose NEITHER for nothing.

Thus my Lamb proposal.


Never said for nothing. Where did you see that? I would look to see his trade value. Frank may be able to be packaged with a contract, or may fetch a later 1st round pick


I see. My bad.


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Re: Fake Trade Thread 

Post#186 » by HornetJail » Sun Apr 8, 2018 7:56 pm

I think we could package him and Lamb for cap space and a late teens pick. Each of them on their own is probably worth a late 1st.
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Post#187 » by stinger14 » Sun Apr 8, 2018 8:33 pm

MotorKeepsGoing wrote:I think we could package him and Lamb for cap space and a late teens pick. Each of them on their own is probably worth a late 1st.


Probably wouldn't work for the Knicks, but if we decide to do a rebuild, would the Knicks take Frank and MKG for Joakim Noah and their first this year?

Hornets grab another lottery pick (#9) for the rebuild

Knicks get rid of Noah's contract while adding two younger players. MKG's inability to shoot from deep would be offset because Frank and Porzingus at the 4 and 5 positions would be able to cover for him.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 

Post#188 » by HornetJail » Sun Apr 8, 2018 8:45 pm

I doubt they would since they just invested in another non-shooting wing in Frank Ntilikina
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 

Post#189 » by Braggins » Sun Apr 8, 2018 11:23 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:
Braggins wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:Lamb for Jerian Grant + Bulls 2nd.

Develop the young core...

Kemba - Grant
Monk - Bacon
MKG - Batum
Kaminsky - Marvin
Cody - Dwight - Hernangomez

Lamb is one of the three players i definitely want to keep (others are Kemba and Monk). Hes easily our best wing, hes still young and improving, and his contract is amazing.


A one-year contract. And no cap to extend him without hitting the luxury tax unless you want to let Frank walk. Frank hit 38% of his threes this year. We lose Frank or Lamb for nothing unless we pay the luxury tax with Kemba or let Kemba walk.

If we keep Dwight to let him expire and move one of Marv/MKG we'll only have about 60 million in cap committed when Lamb and Franks contracts expire. Neither will likely command a huge payday. We have both of their birds rights and Frank will be a restricted free agent.

I'd like to keep them both, but Frank barely missed making my "definitely want to keep" list. He and Willy are 4th/5th on my list after Kemba, Monk, and Lamb.

If MJ is literally just never willing to pay the luxury tax under any circumstances then we all might as well stop following this team because it won't be possible for it to ever be a threat to make any real noise in the playoffs.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 

Post#190 » by Diop » Sun Apr 8, 2018 11:33 pm

My biggest concern with Frank is that he ended last year well and I was excited for a big performance this season.

Yet he stunk it up for half of it. Would be nice if he could take over as starter.
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Post#191 » by JDR720 » Mon Apr 9, 2018 1:51 am

Cody to Atlanta for 18th pick (Minnesotas pick).

We clear some cap space and get a top 20 pick for an injury prone player.

If 18 is too high, Cody to Bulls for 21 pick and Lopez or Asik.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 

Post#192 » by Diop » Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:48 am

Dallas fan offered Dwight for Wes Matthews

I'd do it, saves us 5 mill, we move on from Dwight and keep shopping Batum/MKG
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 

Post#193 » by Braggins » Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:21 am

Yeah, Howard for Matthews would be perfect. Hes not great or anything, but he can still shoot and doesn't suck at defense. It would go a long way towards balancing our roster for a single move.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 

Post#194 » by Vanderbilt_Grad » Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:38 am

Wes would need to opt in to his player option first, in order to be traded.

Not sure how having another SG would balance the roster, but I'm not against this trade. Would rather save $5mil by doing this than by trading Lamb.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 

Post#195 » by HornetJail » Tue Apr 10, 2018 3:11 pm

i'd do that and then see if Brooklyn wants to give us back Lin for Matthews. Brooklyn hands the keys to PG to Russell and Dinwiddie and get a good vet SG to help the young guys. For us half of Howard's contract has been wiped off the books for next season, creating a lot of separation from the lux tax and we get a serviceable backup PG
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 

Post#196 » by yosemiteben » Tue Apr 10, 2018 8:24 pm

I will be pretty stoked if we get Lin back. Can't imagine he would though, given his desire for a starting gig.

JLin + Monk on the second unit would be bad ass.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 

Post#197 » by Braggins » Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:21 pm

I'd rather have Matthews until I see how Lin recovers from being injured for two years in a row.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 

Post#198 » by yosemiteben » Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:40 pm

Braggins wrote:I'd rather have Matthews until I see how Lin recovers from being injured for two years in a row.

That's fair, but I kind of don't care. He's 10X better than the makeshift backup PGs we've dealt with the past few years even if he only comes back at 80%, and I don't feel any need to make a trade to tweak our wing rotation.
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Post#199 » by HornetJail » Wed Apr 11, 2018 3:14 am

Braggins wrote:I'd rather have Matthews until I see how Lin recovers from being injured for two years in a row.

You'd really rather have MKG, Matthews, Lamb, Batum, Monk, Bacon, and Graham all fighting for minutes at the SG and SF and still not have a serviceable backup PG?
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Post#200 » by HornetJail » Wed Apr 11, 2018 3:16 am

yosemiteben wrote:I will be pretty stoked if we get Lin back. Can't imagine he would though, given his desire for a starting gig.

JLin + Monk on the second unit would be bad ass.

Lin isn't going to be starting for Brooklyn next year anyway. Have to think Russell and Dinwiddie are ahead of him in the pecking order now that they have all their picks moving forward starting next season and can fully commit to staying young and building through the draft.
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