rajajackal wrote:idk why but frank is like my favorite knick in a long time. i got so much faith in the kid
Me too. He is the one I want to watch grow and flourish. I'm 100% behind Frank.
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rajajackal wrote:idk why but frank is like my favorite knick in a long time. i got so much faith in the kid
thebuzzardman wrote:mpharris36 wrote:j4remi wrote:
https://clutchpoints.com/knicks-news-frank-ntilikina-still-growing-2017-18-season/
The picture is included, I'd be curious to see new measurements taken but I think it's based on photographs right now.
whats funny is that a similar thing happened to giannis. Where I believe he came into the league at like 6'8 or 6'9 and they kept listing him at that height for a while when he was clearly 6'11 or 7 foot.
Frank might eventually get to 6'7 with those arms and his abhility to put on mustle...I see big things.
I think he grew a little, and was always a little taller than the typical NBA/North American 6'5". The whole "measured in sneakers vs not in Europe vs North American players. In draft pictures, Frank's 6'5" always looked taller/as tall as guys who measured 6'6" or 6'7". I'm convinced euro guys get measured without sneakers, it gets into their profile and stays, while for American guys, they get measured in sneakers and get 1.5 - 2" of height. Translation: Euro 6'5" = NBA 6' 6.5". Or, Frank is 6'6", 6'7" in shoes, which is how everyone else gets measured. I always point this out. Must be getting old. Even look at KP. Listed at 7'3" but he's SO much taller than guys listed at 7'1". I think KP is an "NBA" 7'4/7'5"
Clyde_Style wrote:rajajackal wrote:idk why but frank is like my favorite knick in a long time. i got so much faith in the kid
Me too. He is the one I want to watch grow and flourish. I'm 100% behind Frank.
fatalogic wrote:thebuzzardman wrote:mpharris36 wrote:
whats funny is that a similar thing happened to giannis. Where I believe he came into the league at like 6'8 or 6'9 and they kept listing him at that height for a while when he was clearly 6'11 or 7 foot.
Frank might eventually get to 6'7 with those arms and his abhility to put on mustle...I see big things.
I think he grew a little, and was always a little taller than the typical NBA/North American 6'5". The whole "measured in sneakers vs not in Europe vs North American players. In draft pictures, Frank's 6'5" always looked taller/as tall as guys who measured 6'6" or 6'7". I'm convinced euro guys get measured without sneakers, it gets into their profile and stays, while for American guys, they get measured in sneakers and get 1.5 - 2" of height. Translation: Euro 6'5" = NBA 6' 6.5". Or, Frank is 6'6", 6'7" in shoes, which is how everyone else gets measured. I always point this out. Must be getting old. Even look at KP. Listed at 7'3" but he's SO much taller than guys listed at 7'1". I think KP is an "NBA" 7'4/7'5"
They do get measured without shoes. So on a nba floor he is just barely 6'7. That's why I look at miles bridges and I'm not liking him at the 3/4. Dude is 6'6 in shoes with a short wing span.
rajajackal wrote:idk why but frank is like my favorite knick in a long time. i got so much faith in the kid
MaseInYourFace wrote:Meat wrote:GONYK wrote:His frame is going to pack on muscle. There isn't much doubt about that in my mind.
if the 76ers had drafted frank somehow and red-shirted him like they do their rookies, he would have come in the league looking like a tank. his clavicles are just begging for muscle
He has a great frame! Enviable frankly (pun intended).
PeoplesChamp wrote:DSJ was the obvious choice, but, I'm not mad at having Frank. Phil and his damn triangle...
Frank will be a solid, steady, productive player for us. When is the last time the Knicks had that in the backcourt? This year's pick is critical to his and KP's careers.
earthmansurfer wrote:PeoplesChamp wrote:DSJ was the obvious choice, but, I'm not mad at having Frank. Phil and his damn triangle...
Frank will be a solid, steady, productive player for us. When is the last time the Knicks had that in the backcourt? This year's pick is critical to his and KP's careers.
Honestly, I still prefer Frank to DSJ. Defense in my mind is just sooo important now. I am really tired of one way players. When you can get a 2 way point guard in the NBA, which is a guards league, it really gives you an advantage. I know Frank is not there on offense yet, but I don't think the last two games were a fluke. He is a cerebral cat (Lebron said so ), smart player, VERY good defender (chance to be great DPOY), with a good shot. But he can't really create much yet.
Frank is really still growing. And he is like really young. That 1 year or so younger really is a big jump for many players. What he showed as an older HS senior essentially, is impressive. Kid has a bright future and might really amount to much much than a steady and productive player. Let him fill out, build up, get faster. If his offense even gets good, with his defense, uh oh.
DSJ can really bring it, but he can't play defense. He doesn't seem to be the type of PG that is making everyone around him better. But on the right team, yeah, he can be great and be a champion. But I want some D from my guard.
j4remi wrote:br7knicks wrote:
Where, on this earth, have you read that he's 6'7? Maybe I'm misinformed... But I'd love to see this source
https://clutchpoints.com/knicks-news-frank-ntilikina-still-growing-2017-18-season/A recent photo was posted by Knicks legend Allan Houston on his Twitter account, where he is standing beside Ntilikina. He then added a caption that states that he has noticed the 19-year-old already being taller than him, giving the idea that Ntilikina may have grown a few inches this season.
Ntilikina is officially listed at 6-foot-5, already making him one of the taller point guards in the NBA today. Houston, who stands 6-foot-6, appears to indeed be a tad bit shorter than him, which could mean the rookie may now be at 6-foot-7 today.
The possible increase in height may be considered not that big of a deal, but it could work to his advantage as he continues his journey in the NBA, making it easier for him to go up against the other point guards in the league. It also makes it easier for him to snatch rebounds, given the additional length he may now have.
The picture is included, I'd be curious to see new measurements taken but I think it's based on photographs right now.
mpharris36 wrote:j4remi wrote:br7knicks wrote:
Where, on this earth, have you read that he's 6'7? Maybe I'm misinformed... But I'd love to see this source
https://clutchpoints.com/knicks-news-frank-ntilikina-still-growing-2017-18-season/A recent photo was posted by Knicks legend Allan Houston on his Twitter account, where he is standing beside Ntilikina. He then added a caption that states that he has noticed the 19-year-old already being taller than him, giving the idea that Ntilikina may have grown a few inches this season.
Ntilikina is officially listed at 6-foot-5, already making him one of the taller point guards in the NBA today. Houston, who stands 6-foot-6, appears to indeed be a tad bit shorter than him, which could mean the rookie may now be at 6-foot-7 today.
The possible increase in height may be considered not that big of a deal, but it could work to his advantage as he continues his journey in the NBA, making it easier for him to go up against the other point guards in the league. It also makes it easier for him to snatch rebounds, given the additional length he may now have.
The picture is included, I'd be curious to see new measurements taken but I think it's based on photographs right now.
whats funny is that a similar thing happened to giannis. Where I believe he came into the league at like 6'8 or 6'9 and they kept listing him at that height for a while when he was clearly 6'11 or 7 foot.
Frank might eventually get to 6'7 with those arms and his abhility to put on mustle...I see big things.
br7knicks wrote:j4remi wrote:br7knicks wrote:
Where, on this earth, have you read that he's 6'7? Maybe I'm misinformed... But I'd love to see this source
https://clutchpoints.com/knicks-news-frank-ntilikina-still-growing-2017-18-season/A recent photo was posted by Knicks legend Allan Houston on his Twitter account, where he is standing beside Ntilikina. He then added a caption that states that he has noticed the 19-year-old already being taller than him, giving the idea that Ntilikina may have grown a few inches this season.
Ntilikina is officially listed at 6-foot-5, already making him one of the taller point guards in the NBA today. Houston, who stands 6-foot-6, appears to indeed be a tad bit shorter than him, which could mean the rookie may now be at 6-foot-7 today.
The possible increase in height may be considered not that big of a deal, but it could work to his advantage as he continues his journey in the NBA, making it easier for him to go up against the other point guards in the league. It also makes it easier for him to snatch rebounds, given the additional length he may now have.
The picture is included, I'd be curious to see new measurements taken but I think it's based on photographs right now.
wow. i stand corrected. i was under the impression he was still 6'5ish.
PeoplesChamp wrote:
The league is so offense oriented now. The reverse of how it used to be. And Frank doesn't seem like he'll be THAT dude on offense.
But, then again, if you put the right guys around him, he won't need to be. Whether or not Frank is ultimately a success depends on the team the front office builds around him. Hopefully Perry & Mills can get the job done there.