Political Roundtable Part XIX

[Pointgod]

What does SD20, Donald Trump & Elliott Broidy (RNC finance offical) have in common?
Playboy Bunnies at least two out of the three have paid them off! What about you SD20???

RNC finance official resigns after acknowledging payment to Playboy model
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Elliott Broidy, the venture capitalist who admitted Friday to paying a Playboy "playmate" who said she was pregnant with his child, has stepped down from his post on the Republican National Committee's finance team

Broidy is at the center of a new Journal report that revealed that Michael Cohen, President Trump's personal lawyer, helped negotiate a $1.6 million payment to the model in 2017.

Broidy confirmed the affair to the Journal and admitted that he "offered to help her financially" after she told him "she did not want to continue with the pregnancy."

Those FAMILY VALUE'S Reptilians.

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/383069-rnc-finance-official-resigns-after-acknowledging-payment-to-playboy-model

At least in Trump and Broidys case the playboy model actually exists.

[dckingsfan]

I think if "deep state" was framed as Zonk described - numbers would be even higher.

So 65% of people are **** morons.

35% of people are oblivious to what is going on around them

[stilldropin20]

I think if "deep state" was framed as Zonk described - numbers would be even higher.

So 65% of people are **** morons.

35% of people are oblivious to what is going on around them

he's not just purposefully oblivious. he is perhaps just too busy giving GTN a reach around which reminds me. its about that time again to remind everyone here that Pointgod and GTN are the same damn poster. I think this only happens on the Wizards board. every year there is always at least 1 poster that posts under multiple names. I busted the first one back in 2003. barely and Doc have busted others. I aint even going to bother digging up the evidence anymore. but you can always tell when one posts the other always follows up with the, "great post bud, by the way, nice package!" seriously. just pick one libtard character and stick to it.

[trast66]

Ex CIA Director John Brennan tweeted at Trump: "Your kakistocracy is collapsing"

Politics aside that is a great word to describe Ted & Ernie. "A system of government which is run by the worst, least qualified, or most unscrupulous citizens."

[nate33]

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WITCH HUNT!!! NO COLLUSION!!!

Trump former campaign chairman: indicted FOR CRIMES TOTALLY UNRELATED TO TRUMP AND LONG BEFORE HIS CAMPAIGN TOOK PLACE

Trump WH national security adviser: pleads guilty in a perjury trap over questions about THE FREAKIN LOGAN ACT. Flynn was being bankrupted by the investigation and had little choice but to plead out. Something is very troubling about the plea because the judge in the case was removed and the replacement judge has ordered Mueller to turn over all exculpatory evidence to Flynn's counsel. This is highly unusual and there is reason to believe that Flynn was unjustly railroaded in an unethical manner and he may withdraw his plea. We shall see.

Trump former deputy campaign chairman: pleads guilty TO CRIMES TOTALLY UNRELATED TO TRUMP AND LONG BEFORE HIS CAMPAIGN TOOK PLACE

Trump campaign foreign policy adviser, ER LOW LEVEL VOLUNTEER: pleads guilty TO FALSE STATEMENTS.

Trump personal lawyer and close confidant: under criminal investigation in a ridiculous fishing expedition to try and characterize hush money to a porn star as a campaign finance violation. Hillary Clinton would never hold up to this kind of scrutiny of her campaign financing activities and everyone knows it.

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[Wizardspride]

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[nate33]

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This is a good one. Don't you just love how the non-partisan NY Times lies for Hillary Clinton?

From the article, for those too lazy to click:

WASHINGTON — James B. Comey, the former F.B.I. director, confirms in his new book that the bureau had already begun a criminal investigation focused on Hillary Clinton’s handling of her email in 2015 when her campaign and its allies excoriated journalists for reporting that such an inquiry was being contemplated.

The New York Times reported in July 2015 that two inspectors general had made a criminal referral to the Justice Department recommending an investigation into whether Mrs. Clinton had mishandled sensitive information by using a private email server as secretary of state. Mrs. Clinton’s campaign complained vigorously to The Times, resulting in two corrections to the article.

The corrections said that the inspectors general had made a “security referral” rather than a “criminal referral” and that the referral did not request that Mrs. Clinton specifically be investigated. Mrs. Clinton’s campaign called the article an “erroneous story” with “egregious” errors that misled voters into thinking that she was at risk of being investigated by the F.B.I. for possible criminal violations when the referral was a more routine security matter not focused on her in particular. Critics of the news media, including the public editor of The Times, agreed.

But in “A Higher Loyalty: Truth, Lies, and Leadership,” his memoir that is scheduled for release next week, Mr. Comey said the word-parsing by Mrs. Clinton’s campaign and the Justice Department was actually misleading because the F.B.I. was already conducting a criminal investigation focused on Mrs. Clinton by that point.

[cammac]

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WITCH HUNT!!! NO COLLUSION!!!

Trump former campaign chairman: indicted FOR CRIMES TOTALLY UNRELATED TO TRUMP AND LONG BEFORE HIS CAMPAIGN TOOK PLACE

Trump WH national security adviser: pleads guilty in a perjury trap over questions about THE FREAKIN LOGAN ACT. Flynn was being bankrupted by the investigation and had little choice but to plead out. Something is very troubling about the plea because the judge in the case was removed and the replacement judge has ordered Mueller to turn over all exculpatory evidence to Flynn's counsel. This is highly unusual and there is reason to believe that Flynn was unjustly railroaded in an unethical manner and he may withdraw his plea. We shall see.

Trump former deputy campaign chairman: pleads guilty TO CRIMES TOTALLY UNRELATED TO TRUMP AND LONG BEFORE HIS CAMPAIGN TOOK PLACE

Trump campaign foreign policy adviser, ER LOW LEVEL VOLUNTEER: pleads guilty TO FALSE STATEMENTS.

Trump personal lawyer and close confidant: under criminal investigation in a ridiculous fishing expedition to try and characterize hush money to a porn star as a campaign finance violation. Hillary Clinton would never hold up to this kind of scrutiny of her campaign financing activities and everyone knows it.

Poor Nate wonderful talking points but you know and I know they are BS.
You know the plea deals are just the tip of the iceberg. Plus in Manafort's case just initial charges.

In NY court today the DA is making the case that Cohen isn't a lawyer but a fixer.

Cohen claims that the materials seized include “thousands of privileged documents and communications related to numerous clients of Mr. Cohen, as well as Mr. Cohen’s privileged communications with his own attorneys.” Although the USAO-SDNY and FBI have not yet reviewed the seized materials, there is considerable reason to doubt that assertion….it is neither apparent (i) that Cohen, in his capacity as an attorney, has many, or any, attorney-client relationships other than with President Donald Trump (indeed, he does not specifically identify any in his motion and thus far has refused to identify any to the USAO-SDNY), nor (ii) that the seized communications will include a significant volume of communications with that one identified client.

They proceed to enumerate the reasons. First “Cohen’s claim that he has confidential communications with multiple clients appears to be exaggerated. For example, Cohen has told at least one witness that he has only client – President Trump.” Second, Cohen isn’t really part of the law firm that he says he is. He has just been keeping an office on their premises since March, 2017. He keeps no timesheets there, and the firm does not bill anyone for his work.

Then, sadly, there are three redacted lines. I say “sadly” because the conclusion is “further belying the notion that Cohen is currently engaged in any significant practice of law.

Fourth, the USAO-SDNY has specific reason to doubt that the seized materials willinclude the volume and nature of attorney-client communications that Cohen claims. This is because the USAO-SDNY has already obtained search warrants – covert until this point – on multiple different email accounts maintained by Cohen, and has conducted a privilege review of the materials obtained pursuant to those warrants. The results of that review, as reported by the USAO's Filter Team, indicate that Cohen is in fact performing little to no legal work, and that zero emails were exchanged with President Trump

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/4/13/1756896/-US-Attorney-makes-the-case-that-Cohen-is-a-fixer-not-an-attorney-oh-and-they-ve-got-the-proof

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We all know Manafort had 3 + passports sure Cohn had more than one.
Plus I explained that passport in Euro Zone just gets confirmed at entry and exit points.
So you can go to multiple countries without having passport stamped.

[Wizardspride]

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We all know Manafort had 3 + passports sure Cohn had more than one.
Plus I explained that passport in Euro Zone just gets confirmed at entry and exit points.
So you can go to multiple countries without having passport stamped.

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[Pointgod]

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WITCH HUNT!!! NO COLLUSION!!!

Trump former campaign chairman: indicted FOR CRIMES TOTALLY UNRELATED TO TRUMP AND LONG BEFORE HIS CAMPAIGN TOOK PLACE

Trump WH national security adviser: pleads guilty in a perjury trap over questions about THE FREAKIN LOGAN ACT. Flynn was being bankrupted by the investigation and had little choice but to plead out. Something is very troubling about the plea because the judge in the case was removed and the replacement judge has ordered Mueller to turn over all exculpatory evidence to Flynn's counsel. This is highly unusual and there is reason to believe that Flynn was unjustly railroaded in an unethical manner and he may withdraw his plea. We shall see.

Trump former deputy campaign chairman: pleads guilty TO CRIMES TOTALLY UNRELATED TO TRUMP AND LONG BEFORE HIS CAMPAIGN TOOK PLACE

Trump campaign foreign policy adviser, ER LOW LEVEL VOLUNTEER: pleads guilty TO FALSE STATEMENTS.

Trump personal lawyer and close confidant: under criminal investigation in a ridiculous fishing expedition to try and characterize hush money to a porn star as a campaign finance violation. Hillary Clinton would never hold up to this kind of scrutiny of her campaign financing activities and everyone knows it.

Poor Nate wonderful talking points but you know and I know they are BS.
You know the plea deals are just the tip of the iceberg. Plus in Manafort's case just initial charges.

In NY court today the DA is making the case that Cohen isn't a lawyer but a fixer.

Cohen claims that the materials seized include “thousands of privileged documents and communications related to numerous clients of Mr. Cohen, as well as Mr. Cohen’s privileged communications with his own attorneys.” Although the USAO-SDNY and FBI have not yet reviewed the seized materials, there is considerable reason to doubt that assertion….it is neither apparent (i) that Cohen, in his capacity as an attorney, has many, or any, attorney-client relationships other than with President Donald Trump (indeed, he does not specifically identify any in his motion and thus far has refused to identify any to the USAO-SDNY), nor (ii) that the seized communications will include a significant volume of communications with that one identified client.

They proceed to enumerate the reasons. First “Cohen’s claim that he has confidential communications with multiple clients appears to be exaggerated. For example, Cohen has told at least one witness that he has only client – President Trump.” Second, Cohen isn’t really part of the law firm that he says he is. He has just been keeping an office on their premises since March, 2017. He keeps no timesheets there, and the firm does not bill anyone for his work.

Then, sadly, there are three redacted lines. I say “sadly” because the conclusion is “further belying the notion that Cohen is currently engaged in any significant practice of law.

Fourth, the USAO-SDNY has specific reason to doubt that the seized materials willinclude the volume and nature of attorney-client communications that Cohen claims. This is because the USAO-SDNY has already obtained search warrants – covert until this point – on multiple different email accounts maintained by Cohen, and has conducted a privilege review of the materials obtained pursuant to those warrants. The results of that review, as reported by the USAO's Filter Team, indicate that Cohen is in fact performing little to no legal work, and that zero emails were exchanged with President Trump

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/4/13/1756896/-US-Attorney-makes-the-case-that-Cohen-is-a-fixer-not-an-attorney-oh-and-they-ve-got-the-proof

According to Nate Trump is just coincidentally surrounded by criminals but he hasn't engaged in any criminal or illegal activity himself lmao. Like I said right wingers are the most guillable bunch of idiots.

[cammac]

Perfect time for a military strike against Assad to take peoples eyes off his screwed up and corrupt administration.

President Trump announced Friday he has ordered “precision strikes” against Syria in response to an apparent chemical weapons attack by the forces of Syrian leader Bashar Assad.

Speaking at the White House, Trump said the operation was launched in coordination with the armed forces of France and the United Kingdom. The strikes are targeting sites related to Syria’s chemical weapons program.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/383127-trump-to-address-nation-on-syria

At least one GOP representative, Rep. Thomas Massie (R-W.Va.) immediately joined a chorus of Democrats blasting Trump for not consulting the constitution.

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/383128-dem-senator-rips-trump-for-not-seeking-congressional-approval-for-syria
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/383130-gop-rep-us-constitution-doesnt-give-president-authority-to-strike-syria
Even the dundeheads at Fox know why the attack now!
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/4/13/1756954/-Is-Trump-bombing-Syria-to-distract-Fox-Friends-suggested-it-this-a-m-Dem-senator-goes-there

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I believe that the circumstantial case for collusion is looking pretty damn solid now, but actually proving it may elude Mueller because the principals at the center (Manafort/Cohen), are never going to talk even if Mueller can put Cohen in Prague.

[gtn130]

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WITCH HUNT!!! NO COLLUSION!!!

Trump former campaign chairman: indicted FOR CRIMES TOTALLY UNRELATED TO TRUMP AND LONG BEFORE HIS CAMPAIGN TOOK PLACE

Trump WH national security adviser: pleads guilty in a perjury trap over questions about THE FREAKIN LOGAN ACT. Flynn was being bankrupted by the investigation and had little choice but to plead out. Something is very troubling about the plea because the judge in the case was removed and the replacement judge has ordered Mueller to turn over all exculpatory evidence to Flynn's counsel. This is highly unusual and there is reason to believe that Flynn was unjustly railroaded in an unethical manner and he may withdraw his plea. We shall see.

Trump former deputy campaign chairman: pleads guilty TO CRIMES TOTALLY UNRELATED TO TRUMP AND LONG BEFORE HIS CAMPAIGN TOOK PLACE

Trump campaign foreign policy adviser, ER LOW LEVEL VOLUNTEER: pleads guilty TO FALSE STATEMENTS.

Trump personal lawyer and close confidant: under criminal investigation in a ridiculous fishing expedition to try and characterize hush money to a porn star as a campaign finance violation. Hillary Clinton would never hold up to this kind of scrutiny of her campaign financing activities and everyone knows it.

Spoiler:

WITCH HUNT!!!

[FAH1223]

Trump, UK, and France strikes research facilities that were part of Syria's Chemical Weapons program. (Illegal obviously)

Russia didn't engage with the cruise missiles that hit Damascus, Homs, and Hama at sites purported to be part of Syria's chemical weapons program which was supposed to have been ended in 2014. Syrian air defenses engaged the missiles. Russia didn't use their air defenses.

OPCW is on the ground and is going to the site of the alleged attack last week right when these strikes happen.

Trump changed the news cycle for now. Russia says they will respond to the strikes...

[Zonkerbl]

None of us knows what information Mueller is sitting on right now. Nate has absolutely no basis to claim Trump hasn’t committed any crimes. Furthermore we have the evidence right in front of our eyes. If you’re not blinded by partisan hypocrisy and just assume Trump was telling the truth when he “joked” about inviting his Russian friends to steal Hillary’s emails there’s no need for a special prosecutor.

But we don’t know what Mueller has and he is also a lifelong Republican so maybe he has found a way to soft-pedal Trump’s crimes just like Nate has. We’ll see I guess.

[cammac]

None of us knows what information Mueller is sitting on right now. Nate has absolutely no basis to claim Trump hasn’t committed any crimes. Furthermore we have the evidence right in front of our eyes. If you’re not blinded by partisan hypocrisy and just assume Trump was telling the truth when he “joked” about inviting his Russian friends to steal Hillary’s emails there’s no need for a special prosecutor.

But we don’t know what Mueller has and he is also a lifelong Republican so maybe he has found a way to soft-pedal Trump’s crimes just like Nate has. We’ll see I guess.

I think Mueller is a straight shooter and frankly most in FBI and DOJ are. A good example is the head of the SDNY recused himself because he was hand picked by Trump. The DA on the case is his best on financial crimes. From the initial hearings he is tough and well prepared and has the goods on Cohen. The Prague thing may be the clincher in two burner phones were found in Cohen's possession.

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I believe "No Collusion" is "Fake News"!

[montestewart]

I'm really enjoying the delightful doublespeak of "perjury trap," a technical term which has widely entered popular parlance specifically to explain away as nothing Trump minions lying under oath. Kind of reminds me of "gotcha question," "Deep State," and all these other hazily defined terms that people throw out with authority like they've been using them since a civics presentation in 4th grade.

testimony under oath = perjury trap
question = Gotcha question
law = tyranny
Mexicans, Arabs, Africans = the Mongol Horde
government = deep state
government employees = deep state operatives
fired Trump appointees = deep state operatives
Trump appointees he doesn't like = deep state operatives
women who accuse Trump of sexual assault = deep state operatives
no doubt Jesus = deep state operative
Lincoln too = deep state operative
Dr. Seuss for sure = deep state operative
truth = bullet points on a blog I agree with
MSM = media I don't agree with
style = gold paint
etc.= etc.

[dckingsfan]

And that is the worst part about Trump. He has polarized us to the point where "deep state" = good vs. "deep state" = bad.

"deep state" = good; defends us from Trump - we get to ignore government overreach.

"deep state" = bad; fake news about conspiracies in the FBI - all government is bad.

And the truth is neither.