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Post#901 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sat Apr 21, 2018 2:30 am

Refs gonna let us win game 4, also.

I haven't watched ONE SECOND OF GAME THREE...cuz I knew the Wizards would win.

THE SERIES WILL BE TIED 2-2.

If the Wizards win game 5 it's over.
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Post#902 » by VinBaker6 » Sat Apr 28, 2018 4:10 pm

Your team sucks
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Post#903 » by Shoe » Tue May 8, 2018 2:41 am

VinBaker6 wrote:Your team sucks


lol
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Post#904 » by Jimmy Recard » Tue May 8, 2018 2:55 am

Shoe wrote:
VinBaker6 wrote:Your team sucks


lol

When you think about it, the Cavs sweeping the Raps is almost a mirror image to the wiz sweep 3 years ago.

Choke away game 1 in OT.
Get dismantled by individual brilliance in game 2 (Wall/LeBron).
Hang around game 3 only to get your hearts broken at the end (Pierce/LeBron).
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Post#906 » by long suffrin' boulez fan » Tue Sep 18, 2018 4:57 pm

PIF wears droopy drawers... and Donkey is now probably a suburban homeowner, mowing his lawn in cut offs and high black dress socks.

That's all I got.

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Can’t get this image out of my head. MGK is playing over the speakers at an eighth grade prom. And no one is dancing except Elaine from Seinfeld doing her kick and Still Droppin’ doing Drake’s “old man” dance. Only Drake is my 80 year old dentist. And now he’s teaching those kids the Humpty. And he’s really into it. Cabbage Patch into Kid n’ Play.
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Post#908 » by doclinkin » Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:38 am

long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:PIF wears droopy drawers... and Donkey is now probably a suburban homeowner, mowing his lawn in cut offs and high black dress socks.

That's all I got.

Oh, and Pine is still a snitch.


Miller. MIller31time snitched to pine and all, and was suddenly mod promoted. MIller is a retired snitch, in witless protection somewhere. [sic]
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Post#909 » by stilldropin20 » Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:43 am

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long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:PIF wears droopy drawers... and Donkey is now probably a suburban homeowner, mowing his lawn in cut offs and high black dress socks.

That's all I got.

Oh, and Pine is still a snitch.


Miller. MIller31time snitched to pine and all, and was suddenly mod promoted. MIller is a retired snitch, in witless protection somewhere. [sic]


miller31 snitched me out in 2007! I know it was him!
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Post#910 » by doclinkin » Thu Sep 20, 2018 2:49 am

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doclinkin wrote:
long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:PIF wears droopy drawers... and Donkey is now probably a suburban homeowner, mowing his lawn in cut offs and high black dress socks.

That's all I got.

Oh, and Pine is still a snitch.


Miller. MIller31time snitched to pine and all, and was suddenly mod promoted. MIller is a retired snitch, in witless protection somewhere. [sic]


miller31 snitched me out in 2007! I know it was him!


Oh no that was pine's personal joy. He enjoyed hatin' on you :) . Him and site owner Jro too. And you know as well as anyone you deserved it LOL. You were deliberately pushing the envelope and the buttons and the little old lady in her wheelchair down the flight of stairs. I created the first of these insult threads in part to give room for the dedicated and talented @55h*l3s to find a place to talk as loud as they want. Because any other board would have put you out of their misery far quicker than we put up with around here. And pine, good guy that he is, tolerated it as well or better than any mod oughta. But yeah, him and his luvabulls had you monitored with a lojack suppository. Waiting for you to step across that line, okay the NEXT line, OKAY THE NEXT LINE and that's it dude. Okay thats it I want a pony for christmas...

But my thought was if you could have only kept your deal confined to a thread like this, then you'd be safely quarantined and able to say whatever the frog you wanted.

But you woulda bolloxed that one up too I'm sure :clown: Boundaries need to be crossed, buttons that say "DON'T PUSH THIS" are going to get mashed with the fat side of your fist. Birds gotta fly. Lions gotta hunt. StillDroop gonna piss people off :)
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Post#911 » by doclinkin » Thu Sep 20, 2018 2:58 am

I guess you never read Pine's explanation to the board of why he Kervorkian'ed you. It was thoughtful and reasonable and gave you all kinds of chances, and he also clearly kinda enjoyed it. LOL. Professional do-gooder and great guy, made me smirk that he had a joyful and amusing petty spot too when it came to you and your luvabulls. He kinda did that thing where you step on a roach and then alittle grind your foot on it to make sure it stays dead. Wish I saved it in the HOF. It was a very classy and thoughtful execution. Satisfied that he got to both pull the lever and deliver the eulogy at once. Miss him on these boards. And TheSecretKevin. And fishercob. And old millionaire greendale and donkey and all.
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Post#912 » by stilldropin20 » Thu Sep 20, 2018 4:20 pm

doclinkin wrote:I guess you never read Pine's explanation to the board of why he Kervorkian'ed you. It was thoughtful and reasonable and gave you all kinds of chances, and he also clearly kinda enjoyed it. LOL. Professional do-gooder and great guy, made me smirk that he had a joyful and amusing petty spot too when it came to you and your luvabulls. He kinda did that thing where you step on a roach and then alittle grind your foot on it to make sure it stays dead. Wish I saved it in the HOF. It was a very classy and thoughtful execution. Satisfied that he got to both pull the lever and deliver the eulogy at once. Miss him on these boards. And TheSecretKevin. And fishercob. And old millionaire greendale and donkey and all.


ok, imma let you finnish but first imma let you guys in on a lil secret. Pine n me is tight. He emailed me back then multiple times. As did Jro. To ask me to tone it down but also let me know that giving me the leash helped the site. Trolls help the site. Shocker! I know. They want trolls. They Love trolls. They just want nuanced trolls. Or nice trolls: "great game wizards, i thought you guys had us until we got lucky and went on that 20 point run" :lol: :lol: <-- But the site admins dont want to overwhelm the site with ESPN level bickering and trolling so as to encourage the nuanced analysis. Nor do they want to be overwhelmed with complaints about "trolling" or other TOS violations. Because posters will with no intention of over leaving the site will email admins and say," i am leaving the site if this poster is not banned." <--all because those 2 posters disagree and poster A trolls and verbally insults poster B in a more nuanced and "educated" manner. Both are just trolls, trolling each other and refuse to not allow the other to have the last word. One is jus tmore sophisticated and the other gets bounced.

Funny thing is that many posters actually enjoy reading that stuff. They do. even though they would never engage posters in that type of way.


For me? I simply accept who I am...a meat eatin', stank puss sniffin', full thoated howlin', mess around clownin', message board poundin' fool. Who happens to be nobodies fool. Not even yours, Doclinkin! But you are one of the better posters on the entire site who i enjoy reading especially when you are writing just to write. And Pine was one of the best moderators. Hope he is well. Monste and Nate are just as good as Pine. :D It's a tough job t moderate if you make it tough and easy if you let it be easy. Those 3 are smart enough to figure out how to make it easy.
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Post#913 » by doclinkin » Thu Sep 20, 2018 5:02 pm

Yeah, that said, Kev and fishercob have made it clear they left this site in part over a general downturn in the quality of debate (hands spamming the boards) and partisan disagreements in the politics thread that triggered distaste and soured their opinion of posters they otherwise respected in other contexts. The over the top attacks and the general schism in our country and downturn in civility and lack of accurate sourcing and you know-- trolling --drove away a few of our better and smarter posters for whom this political climate made it less acceptable to take lightheartedly disagreements between otherwise right-thinking adults. The political thread turned away from an honest earnest thoughtful debate into more bomb throwing and whatnot. Shrug.
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Post#914 » by stilldropin20 » Thu Sep 20, 2018 6:48 pm

doclinkin wrote:Yeah, that said, Kev and fishercob have made it clear they left this site in part over a general downturn in the quality of debate (hands spamming the boards) and partisan disagreements in the politics thread that triggered distaste and soured their opinion of posters they otherwise respected in other contexts. The over the top attacks and the general schism in our country and downturn in civility and lack of accurate sourcing and you know-- trolling --drove away a few of our better and smarter posters for whom this political climate made it less acceptable to take lightheartedly disagreements between otherwise right-thinking adults. The political thread turned away from an honest earnest thoughtful debate into more bomb throwing and whatnot. Shrug.


you got the liberals in the politics thread to thank for that. I'm on solid ground with analytics and the science with almost everything i post in that thread. And when i'm off or wrong, its not by much. Their version of "truth" is so far out of whack, that the actual truth seems "whack."

The liberals have been drinking their own far fetched koolaid for decades. They now believe their own press releases. they are the ones that have divided the country. They want the same things I want. Equal and fair wealth distribution. But they dont know how to get it. They dont even know where the real wealth is hidden and espeically dont know how it is hidden. So instead they want their neighbors trans am or boat money. Cuz they can see tranny and the boat. Too effin lazy to go find the real money. And that's why i post in that thread.
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doclinkin wrote:Yeah, that said, Kev and fishercob have made it clear they left this site in part over a general downturn in the quality of debate (hands spamming the boards) and partisan disagreements in the politics thread that triggered distaste and soured their opinion of posters they otherwise respected in other contexts. The over the top attacks and the general schism in our country and downturn in civility and lack of accurate sourcing and you know-- trolling --drove away a few of our better and smarter posters for whom this political climate made it less acceptable to take lightheartedly disagreements between otherwise right-thinking adults. The political thread turned away from an honest earnest thoughtful debate into more bomb throwing and whatnot. Shrug.


you got the liberals in the politics thread to thank for that. I'm on solid ground with analytics and the science with almost everything i post in that thread. And when i'm off or wrong, its not by much. Their version of "truth" is so far out of whack, that the actual truth seems "whack."

The liberals have been drinking their own far fetched koolaid for decades. They now believe their own press releases. they are the ones that have divided the country. They want the same things I want. Equal and fair wealth distribution. But they dont know how to get it. They dont even know where the real wealth is hidden and espeically dont know how it is hidden. So instead they want their neighbors trans am or boat money. Cuz they can see tranny and the boat. Too effin lazy to go find the real money. And that's why i post in that thread.


Disagree wholeheartedly. On both accounts. Motivation of liberals and when the politics thread changed and what has polarized our country. But I mostly don't post in that thread because people tend to be doing exactly that bull ^^^^ lobbing monkey dung instead of earnestly trying to understand each others perspective and trying to find middle ground or solutions. Frankly as much as I support the helloutta you and held my own protest for them assassinating your online persona, I'd have more to say to you in this thread than on there. There you are a billion percent part of the problem. Clowning and trolling and inciting disagreement for your own jollies. It's an act, I suspect you're not this much of an @ss in real life. I get the feeling we'd get along fine, though I'm a born socialist who plays wargames and studies strategy/tactics, and you may have reallife fought your way to a im-a get-mine capitalist mindset from whatever fictionalized beginning you got.

But in that thread its tougher to let things linger, ****, its real life consequences for people having dangerously disparate political opinions. Somebody profits by the schism in our country and it likely isn't most of us message board mopes.
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Post#916 » by stilldropin20 » Fri Sep 21, 2018 8:03 pm

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doclinkin wrote:Yeah, that said, Kev and fishercob have made it clear they left this site in part over a general downturn in the quality of debate (hands spamming the boards) and partisan disagreements in the politics thread that triggered distaste and soured their opinion of posters they otherwise respected in other contexts. The over the top attacks and the general schism in our country and downturn in civility and lack of accurate sourcing and you know-- trolling --drove away a few of our better and smarter posters for whom this political climate made it less acceptable to take lightheartedly disagreements between otherwise right-thinking adults. The political thread turned away from an honest earnest thoughtful debate into more bomb throwing and whatnot. Shrug.


you got the liberals in the politics thread to thank for that. I'm on solid ground with analytics and the science with almost everything i post in that thread. And when i'm off or wrong, its not by much. Their version of "truth" is so far out of whack, that the actual truth seems "whack."

The liberals have been drinking their own far fetched koolaid for decades. They now believe their own press releases. they are the ones that have divided the country. They want the same things I want. Equal and fair wealth distribution. But they dont know how to get it. They dont even know where the real wealth is hidden and espeically dont know how it is hidden. So instead they want their neighbors trans am or boat money. Cuz they can see tranny and the boat. Too effin lazy to go find the real money. And that's why i post in that thread.


Disagree wholeheartedly. On both accounts. Motivation of liberals and when the politics thread changed and what has polarized our country. But I mostly don't post in that thread because people tend to be doing exactly that bull ^^^^ lobbing monkey dung instead of earnestly trying to understand each others perspective and trying to find middle ground or solutions. Frankly as much as I support the helloutta you and held my own protest for them assassinating your online persona, I'd have more to say to you in this thread than on there. There you are a billion percent part of the problem. Clowning and trolling and inciting disagreement for your own jollies. It's an act, I suspect you're not this much of an @ss in real life. I get the feeling we'd get along fine, though I'm a born socialist who plays wargames and studies strategy/tactics, and you may have reallife fought your way to a im-a get-mine capitalist mindset from whatever fictionalized beginning you got.

But in that thread its tougher to let things linger, ****, its real life consequences for people having dangerously disparate political opinions. Somebody profits by the schism in our country and it likely isn't most of us message board mopes.


im down with this. I think we are both well groomed self taught strategists. I know a thinker when i see him. We may have different styles but i think we are quite similar. If their is anyone on realgm that I would have a beer with first, it would be you. we can strategize wealth redistribution in this thread and leave the bickering for the other thread. <--believe it or not there is a personal "purpose" for the bickering besides "just throwing monkey dong"...because certainly you understand that true and real socialism is nothing less than an outright war on the wealthy elites. And that war will be very confusing and fought on every imaginable front you can possibly consider.



So yeah...You kind of nailed my personal approach...something i have been very transparent about. I've got NO PROBLEM with Socialists. I dont. Other than you cant be a globalists and a socialist. Not because it isnt "ideal"...but because its hard enough to make it work in one country or nation state let alone the globe...adn the entire point is to redistribute wealth. That's the whole purpose. So in that regard I too am a socialists at heart or of some order<--BUT only if we actually redistribute the wealth of the elite. If we are just taking money from the upper middle class to give to the poor then count me out. Thats bull crap socialism. Not even socialism. Its a joke. A trick. A mind phuck that only allows the elite to hoard even more wealth. Now if you want to seize the wealth of the elite?? Remove all of their family trust, non-profit, foundation carve outs and loopholes???...and NOT allow them to hide their wealth overseas???? And if by socialism you mean that for the most part we are all born on some type of level playing field (aside from the genetic (semi) lottery)....if thats what you mean????...and you are ready to implement a real death tax at 80% or higher??? Then count me in. I will die on that hill.

1. We must make corporations realize income each and every year. (corps cant be allowed to park money in corporate accounts...or re-invest it...or hide it in R n D) If the corp is owned by share holders then force them to pay dividends...ALL INCOME must be realized each and every year and then taxed!

2. I'm fine with 21% corp tax rate...but make that the rate across the board...including small businesses. Allow mom and pop to incorporate their 401K's and pay the same 21% rate and force them to realize that income on a yearly basis as well.

3. Force any corporations selling products or manufacturing product or purchasing products in the US to pay taxes in the US. IF global then prorate those taxes. You sell half of your inventory here in the US? Pay half your taxes here(or you cant do business here). Its that simple of a fix. <--non compliant companies get hit with 25% tariffs on the way in or on the way out. SO they would actually save money to register their headquarters here and pay taxes here.

^^^ do those 3 things and you will triple-quadruple the annual federal income. We would go from taking in about 3 trillion to taking in about 9 trillion. overnight.

Then implement an 80% death tax to all wealth...and there you have it...It might take 20-70 years but all the current founders or successive owners of all trust and foundations will die off then you are looking at another 50-80 trillion in "tax dollars " over the next 20-70 years.

At that point You now have the money to do anything. medicare for all. free college. etc etc. etc

But the elites are not going down with out a fight. They will move their wealth overseas and be willing to induce WW3 to keep it.

^^but that is how you "get it." 1. force everyone to realize all income every year. 2. Tax that income. 3. Death tax.

I hedge between what you describe as a "capitalist..Imma get mine" and a full throated socialist because the elites have been tricking the middle class in to giving up the few beans they have to the poor and working poor instead of giving up their own wealth for the past 2 centuries.

We didn't have this issue 300 years ago. Empires toppled! and the wealth was redistributed. But the invention of the stock market and banking(yes! those same phucking bankers!!) system has created a paper trail...I mean you cant even loot a phucking mansion or castle in a time of war and keep a painting on the wall anymore!! These phuckers cornered the market on art for christ phucking sakes!! Paid out borderline slave wages to artists hundreds of years ago and get to pass down that art...now worth millions!! Nevermind that they played a large hand in deciding which art was more valuable than other pieces. National registries and paper trails have been created to make it impossible to revolt and loot even a painting on the wall!!! (funny how "they" got that "one" ("worked out)" too over the past couple centuries <--by of course, the "bankers!!" :nod: ). Keep in mind that the bankers also became the insurance companies. And the "news" sources.

So the "strategy" must:

1. understand and fully appreciate that the wealthy elites are not going to allow the congress to pass tax laws to confiscate their wealth. Bribes, payoffs, assassinations. Including thrusting foreign governments to go to war with the US. They will use every trick in the book. But that is almost nothing to the fear mongering they will drum up in "their" media. They elites will use the entire catalogue of media outlets. This will be the one time Fox and CNN fully agree and will literally assassinate any and all politicians attempting to pass a tax code like this every single day in the media. When they are done those politicians will wish they were dead. Obviously they will go after the president as well if this even hits his desk.

2. even if we can pull it off and change the tax code (laws), they will remove their wealth from the US banking system. only their land can be appraised and taxed (which is a solid start)...which will induce a massive sell off of all land where the founder of the trust is old(er).

3. This will be the on issue where the Farmers will fight like hell side by side with NY elites. Some of which are already one in the same in the case of corporately owned farms. Koch brothers et al.

4. upper middle class who has a decent nest egg will also fight with the elites. Tricked into Thinking their trans am and the $100K in equity on the house is worth fighting for.

^^^thats just a taste of what you are up against. You ready for this? That's why i hedge as a capitalist. I dont believe the american people have the stomach for this fight. Nor the intellect. Nor the stamina. Nor the focus. I cant even get the 7 fools in the politics thread to understand the basic concept that all inequality is born of wealth inequality. I'd peg your critical mass at around 10,000,000 active and involved us citizens.

EDIT to add: I think John Lennon summed up my stance perfectly:

You say you want a revolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world...



"but if you want money for (originally from) people with minds that hate,
all i can tell you brother is you're gonna have to wait"

I'd say that John lennon understood the people well. And the wealthy elite have us nailed. They are centuries ahead of us. If not a millennia. They have been paying us off with jobs, or outright bribing us, even torturing us for hundreds of years. They and are not afraid to kill us off en masse nor starve us to death. They have the means and they know how to do it. They have us pegged. They know our breaking points. And they have passed on this knowledge to the younger caretakers of their wealth. The common everyday man or woman does NOT know how to fight on these terms...not over money. And all we have passed on is confusion, anger and hatred. We have no true North. They know their North which is to keep hoarding wealth and they stick to it.

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Post#917 » by pancakes3 » Fri Sep 21, 2018 8:10 pm

you're a stone cold idiot, SD.
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Post#918 » by stilldropin20 » Fri Sep 21, 2018 8:16 pm

pancakes3 wrote:you're a stone cold idiot, SD.


this is between me and Doc. Go back to the kiddy table! i''ll join you over there for the food fight in a minute. BTW, BIG NEWS TODAY!! :lol: :lol: yeah it was all a set up and an attempted coup as nate and i have said for 2 years. But Let's leave this thread alone to the grown ups? Per Doc's request. Do it for Doc?
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Post#919 » by doclinkin » Sat Sep 22, 2018 9:44 am

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pancakes3 wrote:you're a stone cold idiot, SD.


this is between me and Doc. Go back to the kiddy table! i''ll join you over there for the food fight in a minute. BTW, BIG NEWS TODAY!! :lol: :lol: yeah it was all a set up and an attempted coup as nate and i have said for 2 years. But Let's leave this thread alone to the grown ups? Per Doc's request. Do it for Doc?


No man, THIS is the thread where you are supposed to be called a leaky colostomy bag of fetid worm infested conspiracy theories. Maybe even pick a fight over there and then take it to this one. Because that thread used to be calm and thoughtful reasonable adults. And now is often unreadable ME vs YOUism. Over there we ought to be all americans who disagree on the nuances of what freedom costs and how that bill is divvied up. Over here, is where you are supposed to be accurately understood that you got your head so far up your own rectum that your mouthwash is an enema. But of course as usual you got it all backwards :clown:
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Post#920 » by doclinkin » Sat Sep 22, 2018 3:57 pm

stilldropin20 wrote:
pancakes3 wrote:you're a stone cold idiot, SD.


this is between me and Doc. Go back to the kiddy table! i''ll join you over there for the food fight in a minute. BTW, BIG NEWS TODAY!! :lol: :lol: yeah it was all a set up and an attempted coup as nate and i have said for 2 years. But Let's leave this thread alone to the grown ups? Per Doc's request. Do it for Doc?

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BUt I'll take my reply back on the other thread since it's worth talking about and you're willing to talk.

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