The Draft (Postseason Edition): 1/16/31/59 (NEW POLL)

MaDGaMEZ · Post #521 » by **MaDGaMEZ** » Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:17 am

JJJr on offense can’t go up after rebounds with out gathering himself, easily will get stripped in the nba every time or blocked. I like his defense though, just don’t see top 4 talent.

JMac1 · Post #522 » by **JMac1** » Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:20 am

MaDGaMEZ wrote:JJJr on offense can’t go up after rebounds with out gathering himself, easily will get stripped in the nba every time or blocked. I like his defense though, just don’t see top 4 talent.

Right. He moves so long and slow. He stretches to dunk vs load-up and explode quickly. He just seems funky.

jcsunsfan · Post #523 » by **jcsunsfan** » Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:57 am

WeekapaugGroove wrote:
Frank Lee wrote:Resident Geezer checking in.....

Whoever we draft, they better know how to play basketball

Imagine if McDo-over would have selected Sabonis instead of Chriss....

I don’t want anymore ‘projects’ for a while

Sounds like you should jump on my wendell carter bandwagon. Plenty of room

Carter would be a nice get out of this draft. Players like Horford and Mirotic for the Pels play that secondary role but it seems absolutely essential to help their teams win. I see Carter in that role. He would not be the start player but a impact role player like Horford, Ginobili, Draymond, and so many others.

Not with our top pick of course, but a trade up or something

Post #524 » by **lilfishi22** » Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:14 am

Totally forgot about Porter. I'd put Porter in that mini group of bigs (Bagley, JJJr, Porter) that's a potential at #4.

Dambo · Post #525 » by **Dambo** » Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:30 am

I'm all in for Doncic.. some people tend to forget that the level of defenders in the euroleague is way higher than the one in college basketball. Some players there are proven ex NBA players, and for Doncic to do what he did there, at only 19 years of age - it definately shows this kid is legit.

Damkac · Post #526 » by **Damkac** » Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:44 am

lilfishi22 wrote:I like JJJr (have him above Bagley at #4 right now)......but man KG and now AD potential?

That's a hella hype train and not one I want to get tickets for

That's true. No matter who you like in this draft one thing needs to be said:

It's unlikely that JJJ will be Garnett

It's unlikely that Bagley will be better rebounding Amare

It's unlikely that Ayton will be David Robinson (maybe D-Rob without defense)

It's unlikely that Young will be Curry

It's unlikely that Doncic will be Bird's and Harden's illegitimate child

It's unlikely that Porter will be Durant

If you set your expectations that high you better get prepared for disappointment.

Post #527 » by **Qwigglez** » Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:56 am

If the Suns drop to No 3 or 4, is there any possibility of trading up to No 1 or 2, and if so, what assets do you think it would take?

cberry78 · Post #528 » by **cberry78** » Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:11 am

I'd be curious what assets it would take just to get a second pick in the top 5-7?

Sunsfan12 · Post #529 » by **Sunsfan12** » Mon Apr 23, 2018 11:16 am

JMac1 wrote:
Sunsfan12 wrote:
JMac1 wrote:
Now you want to play the semantics game....You can be active all you want, you wont get there unless you are mobile. The fact that I have to explain this is getting kinda ridiculous. Active=moving Mobility=your ability to move. Pete Rose=Charlie Hustle, limit mobility, Lou Brock= I rest my case.

If active=mobility why did you list them as separate qualities? Go with your first instinct. Mobility means your ability to move. It doesn’t mean you’re actually moving. Active means you’re actually engaging in movement. Kinda sad I have to explain that.

lol. You wont quit. Keep spinning my brotha. What ever it takes to not admit you are wrong. I hear ya.

I’m not wrong and you know it. That’s why you feel like you have to accuse me of spinning instead of discussing the facts.

JMac1 · Post #530 » by **JMac1** » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:26 pm

Sunsfan12 wrote:
JMac1 wrote:
Sunsfan12 wrote:
If active=mobility why did you list them as separate qualities? Go with your first instinct. Mobility means your ability to move. It doesn’t mean you’re actually moving. Active means you’re actually engaging in movement. Kinda sad I have to explain that.

lol. You wont quit. Keep spinning my brotha. What ever it takes to not admit you are wrong. I hear ya.

I’m not wrong and you know it. That’s why you feel like you have to accuse me of spinning instead of discussing the facts.

Keep proving my point.

Saberestar · Post #531 » by **Saberestar** » Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:08 pm

Read on Twitter

theSUNalsoRISES · Post #532 » by **theSUNalsoRISES** » Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:09 pm

This draft doesn’t really excite me once you drop out of the Doncic-Ayton-Young conversation. The option Id look at would be Miles bridges. The guy can shoot, defend and is super athletic. Him and Josh Jackson could create havoc on the defensive end. Pick up khyrie Thomas at 16 and have a really fast disruptive line up of thomas- booker- bridges-Jackson- bender. It’s a reach for bridges that high but I still think he’s probably the most ready out of those guy and has the least question marks.

WeekapaugGroove · Post #533 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:45 pm

Listened to this last night and it's touches on a lot of the modern big man debate we've been talking about the last couple of days. They like JJJ but also had some encouraging things to say about Bagley's fit defensively in the modern era talking about how his switch ability could lessen the impact of his low block rate.

I've really enjoyed the Ringers draft pod series that comes out every Friday worth a listen.

https://www.theringer.com/2018/4/20/17264350/the-future-for-big-men-and-rebuilding-the-blazers

Post #534 » by **bwgood77** » Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:07 pm

Saberestar wrote:

Read on Twitter

Looks like a very nice guide. Interesting it names Phoenix as best landing fit for Doncic and then names Memphis/Orlando as two bad landing fits because they are not a model of stable management.

Edit: Also interesting it lists Phx has best landing fit for JJJr and Young but not for anyone else in the top 10 outside of the three I mentioned.

A lot of good anaylsis though.

WeekapaugGroove · Post #535 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:13 pm

lilfishi22 wrote:Totally forgot about Porter. I'd put Porter in that mini group of bigs (Bagley, JJJr, Porter) that's a potential at #4.

Porter is the hardest guy for me to wrap my head around. In some ways he's the type of prospect I would normally like because he could be a true 3 level scorer in the pros and has all NBA type talent. But then there's the back injury which is worrisome and I didn't think he was moving well when he came back last year. Maybe that's to be expected after an injury like that but he would have to come in for a work out and look 100% fine for me to consider him top 4. Even more so there are just parts of his game that concern me; his handle isn't great and there's a chance he's an inefficient black hole type. I think he's a 4 in the NBA and he has the length to at least hold his own defensively but he's a big question mark on that side of the ball.

If they fall to 4 I guess they have to consider him because of his pedigree and upside but he's definitely in that 'scary' list for me.

Post #536 » by **bwgood77** » Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:16 pm

theSUNalsoRISES wrote:This draft doesn’t really excite me once you drop out of the Doncic-Ayton-Young conversation. The option Id look at would be Miles bridges. The guy can shoot, defend and is super athletic. Him and Josh Jackson could create havoc on the defensive end. Pick up khyrie Thomas at 16 and have a really fast disruptive line up of thomas- booker- bridges-Jackson- bender. It’s a reach for bridges that high but I still think he’s probably the most ready out of those guy and has the least question marks.

I have often thought of him and WISHED he was a little taller with a LOT longer length because I think he'd make a great small ball four.

You could say the same about Mikal Bridges but a lot of the people here would probably consider him more of a role player since he mostly is just an elite defender/shooter like JJJ that many people don't seem to like the elite role players needed today.

theSUNalsoRISES · Post #537 » by **theSUNalsoRISES** » Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:57 pm

Yea bridges at 6.6 would make us super small but it doesn’t matter, we are getting the top pick. It’s Ayton vs Doncic this offseason.

YouTube · Post #538 » by **Kerrsed** » Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:25 pm

cberry78 wrote:I'd be curious what assets it would take just to get a second pick in the top 5-7?

Thats easy, according to one board all you need is a disgruntled Coach that has been overpaid and is still on a 2 year deal but looking to leave. That could net you a top 7 pick, or at least swap from #4 to #1!

JMac1 · Post #539 » by **JMac1** » Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:32 pm

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Saberestar · Post #540 » by **Saberestar** » Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:34 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
theSUNalsoRISES wrote:This draft doesn’t really excite me once you drop out of the Doncic-Ayton-Young conversation. The option Id look at would be Miles bridges. The guy can shoot, defend and is super athletic. Him and Josh Jackson could create havoc on the defensive end. Pick up khyrie Thomas at 16 and have a really fast disruptive line up of thomas- booker- bridges-Jackson- bender. It’s a reach for bridges that high but I still think he’s probably the most ready out of those guy and has the least question marks.

I have often thought of him and WISHED he was a little taller with a LOT longer length because I think he'd make a great small ball four.

You could say the same about Mikal Bridges but a lot of the people here would probably consider him more of a role player since he mostly is just an elite defender/shooter like JJJ that many people don't seem to like the elite role players needed today.

I am pretty sure that Miles Bridges is 6'7 or even a little more and he has a wide body...probably bigger than Draymond Green.

I think that he is gonna be able to play PF because he is so strong and he likes to play physical ball.

I would like to get him, but probably #4 is too high for him.

Who do you want us to draft?