ECSF: P2 | (2) Boston Celtics vs Philadelphia 76ers (3) | BOS 3-0

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Series Prediction

Celtics in 4
39
15%
Celtics in 5
49
18%
Celtics in 6
55
21%
Celtics in 7
54
20%
76ers in 7
14
5%
76ers in 6
45
17%
76ers in 5
10
4%
 
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Post#3301 » by Blaze4G » Sun May 6, 2018 2:46 am

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off ball foul on Simmons ... definitely pulling him away from the play

Simmons is holding Tatum just as much as Tatum holding Simmons because Simmons thought the play might have been for Tatum.
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Post#3302 » by Blaze4G » Sun May 6, 2018 2:49 am

Darth Celtic wrote:Went through 15 pages to see what superdario had to say about this game. nothing.

Lol or course he is hiding...he did say Philly have a 80% chance of winning game 3.
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Post#3303 » by Curmudgeon » Sun May 6, 2018 2:51 am

The narrative that the Sixers are the more talented team but have simply been outcoached may give comfort to Sixers fans but it's baloney. Tatum has been the best player on the floor in all three games, followed closely by Horford and Rozier. Embiid is super athletic but he does not yet know how to play the game. He's all individual moves. Does he have even a single assist in the three games? If so, I don't remember it.

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Post#3304 » by PierceFan4ever » Sun May 6, 2018 2:51 am

Superdario still somewhere out there thinking that Saric is close to Hayward as a player, Simmons is still magic and Embiid is still Kareem. Bless that man
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Post#3305 » by DelMonte West » Sun May 6, 2018 2:55 am

PierceFan4ever wrote:Superdario still somewhere out there thinking that Saric is close to Hayward as a player, Simmons is still magic and Embiid is still Kareem. Bless that man


LMAO. Simmons isn't close to Anfernee Hardway. Comparing him to Magic is blasphemy.
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Post#3306 » by gizardoe » Sun May 6, 2018 2:56 am

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Post#3307 » by PierceFan4ever » Sun May 6, 2018 3:09 am

Can someone explain to me how a generally good Heat defense were giving up 120-130 points to these Sixers? I know Celtics have the #1 ranked defense but how was Miami’s defense so bad that first round?
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Post#3308 » by Kalela » Sun May 6, 2018 3:15 am

PierceFan4ever wrote:Can someone explain to me how a generally good Heat defense were giving up 120-130 points to these Sixers? I know Celtics have the #1 ranked defense but how was Miami’s defense so bad that first round?


They couldn't make wide open shots. The Celtics could and did.
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Post#3309 » by Stanford » Sun May 6, 2018 3:19 am

PierceFan4ever wrote:Can someone explain to me how a generally good Heat defense were giving up 120-130 points to these Sixers? I know Celtics have the #1 ranked defense but how was Miami’s defense so bad that first round?


This team is playing as bad as they have all season. Miami was able to control the pace and Philly still scored. You're not giving them credit as an offensive team, because of course you're not.
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Post#3310 » by kingofthecourt67 » Sun May 6, 2018 3:22 am

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PierceFan4ever wrote:Can someone explain to me how a generally good Heat defense were giving up 120-130 points to these Sixers? I know Celtics have the #1 ranked defense but how was Miami’s defense so bad that first round?


This team is playing as bad as they have all season. Miami was able to control the pace and Philly still scored. You're not giving them credit as an offensive team, because of course you're not.


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Post#3311 » by Stanford » Sun May 6, 2018 3:23 am

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PierceFan4ever wrote:Can someone explain to me how a generally good Heat defense were giving up 120-130 points to these Sixers? I know Celtics have the #1 ranked defense but how was Miami’s defense so bad that first round?


This team is playing as bad as they have all season. Miami was able to control the pace and Philly still scored. You're not giving them credit as an offensive team, because of course you're not.


Careful..you're on the verge of needing to be humbled.


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Post#3312 » by kingofthecourt67 » Sun May 6, 2018 3:24 am

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kingofthecourt67 wrote:
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This team is playing as bad as they have all season. Miami was able to control the pace and Philly still scored. You're not giving them credit as an offensive team, because of course you're not.


Careful..you're on the verge of needing to be humbled.


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:lol: :lol: Just make sure you don't predict a victory next game or there will be a mob out for you
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Post#3313 » by soxfan2003 » Sun May 6, 2018 3:27 am

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Forget your metrics...Simmons and Embiid had people saying they were going to the finals. The Celtics have fine players...the sixers have transcended talent. Jingles is right...period...think this...would anyone take Kyrie and Hayward over Embiid and Simmons? No..so next year if these teams meet the sixers may have the two best players in that series. :( :noway:


I respect the 76ers potential but I see Simmons much, much closer to Lamar Odom -- who did deserve to make an all-star team if the NBA was selecting best 24 players each year -- in talent than Lebron. And obviously LO without his off the court problems would have been even better. LO was really good so this is no major diss.

And I see Embiid as a more talented Robert Parish but in an NBA where bigs are devalued a little bit and not another Hakeem type player. Hakeem just more explosive/quicker and that is more important than Embiid's edge in size. Parish had a great career but he was 2 levels down from Hakeem. Embiid's potential is probably 1 level down from Hakeem and that isn't transcendent. Top 10 player potential? Sure. Shaq/Hakeem/Robinson/Duncan/KG potential, I am not seeing it.

I don't see any "trancendent" talent on 76ers or Celtics. Tatum can be a HOFer and better than Embiid or Simmons but I don't see him as trancendent. To be quite honest, with what I have seen out of Tatum I wouldn't risk trading him right now for pretty much any NBA player 25 and under not named Anthony Davis. Simmons has more potential than Tatum if he develops into a very good all around shooter, I just wouldn't take that gamble in Celtics position especially.

In an NBA pre 3 point line, I'd rather have Embiid than Tatum but we are no longer in that league.


You lost me at Simmons being closers to LO...:). Either way...i respect your option but I dont see it that way. I dont think LO would be considered in the same conversation with Lebron and Magic coming into the league. I see Embiid being maybe the second coming of the dream ...with a 3...but bigger...with less humility.


I just see the Simmons to Lebron/Magic comparisons as ridiculously nutty and I didn't really hear anyone that I respect make them. Saying a player has great passing ability which Simmons does doesn't make them comparable as all around players to those 2 legends. I love PP as a player but I would never argue that he is the same caliber of talent as Lebron. Entering the NBA I would have bet against a healthy Simmons having as good of a career as PP since shooting in the NBA is really important.

Lebron out of _high school_ much much better confident shooter entering the NBA even though it wasn't the strength of his game, stronger and just 1.5 to 2 levels better as an athlete. Simmons I see as below Kobe as an athlete even though he has better passing ability. Lebron an entire level better than Kobe as an athlete and yes half a level above even Michael Jordan athletically.

Hakeem just a lot lighter/quicker/more explosive/more coordinated than Embiid. Embiid for sure has a better outside better shot than Hakeem but less post moves. David Robinson was a better athlete than Embiid and Hakeem was too quick at times for Robinson.

I have great respect for Horford... very good and fundamentally sound player but he isn't getting the better than a young Hakeem in key moments.

This all being said despite the slow start of his career, Fultz still has a chance to be a very good starting PG if he can iron out his shot. And 76ers have a lot of cap room.
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Post#3314 » by PierceFan4ever » Sun May 6, 2018 3:28 am

Stanford wrote:
PierceFan4ever wrote:Can someone explain to me how a generally good Heat defense were giving up 120-130 points to these Sixers? I know Celtics have the #1 ranked defense but how was Miami’s defense so bad that first round?


This team is playing as bad as they have all season. Miami was able to control the pace and Philly still scored. You're not giving them credit as an offensive team, because of course you're not.


Lol..that wasn’t my intent. I wasn’t trying to discredit the Sixers for what they did the previous series but I was curious what the difference was because I didn’t really watch the series. But even without that, giving up 120-130 points like the Heat were giving up is crazy bad defensively especially in a playoff series. Or you can explain yourself since you’ve seen the two series on what Boston is doing differently than Miami.
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Post#3315 » by jstudabaka » Sun May 6, 2018 3:36 am

The 76ers are a very talented basketball team and will only get better as their young core improves and they add more pieces around it. An NBA championship could very well be in their future. Having said that--screw "the process." I am so sick to death of hearing the media gush and glow about "the process" and what a "good story" the 76ers are. It's not a good story, at all. They tanked for a bunch of years and eventually hit on a few draft picks. It happens. If the "process" was such a good story, the league would not be changing the rules to prevent other teams from replicating this supposed "good story." Enough of this ridiculous misconception.

What is an actual good story is what an amazing coach Brad Stevens is and how well the young Celtics are playing, demolishing a team many favored to beat them.
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Post#3316 » by Andy123 » Sun May 6, 2018 3:40 am

PierceFan4ever wrote:Rookies in the semifinals

Mitchell 48 points on 19/59 shooting
Simmons 35 points on 14/29 shooting
Tatum 73 points on 31/47 shooting

Mitchell 18 months older, Simmons 20 months older than JT

Crazy.

Simmons isn't a scorer, plus a years difference is not a big deal..
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Post#3317 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Sun May 6, 2018 3:45 am

Even though philly lost at the end lol I was right about Philly. Too inexperienced. I said sweep or 5 games to a Boston. It’s over.

Simmons needs to work at shooting. Period. That’s his main goal this offseason. Same with Fultz
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Post#3318 » by PierceFan4ever » Sun May 6, 2018 3:49 am

Andy123 wrote:
PierceFan4ever wrote:Rookies in the semifinals

Mitchell 48 points on 19/59 shooting
Simmons 35 points on 14/29 shooting
Tatum 73 points on 31/47 shooting

Mitchell 18 months older, Simmons 20 months older than JT

Crazy.

Simmons isn't a scorer, plus a years difference is not a big deal..


A year and a half is a big difference. Tatum to be at Simmons’ age right now would be at the start of the 2019-2020 season...his body isn’t even fully developed and has shown some big strides from this point last season to right now.
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Post#3319 » by RB34 » Sun May 6, 2018 3:50 am

Andy123 wrote:
PierceFan4ever wrote:Rookies in the semifinals

Mitchell 48 points on 19/59 shooting
Simmons 35 points on 14/29 shooting
Tatum 73 points on 31/47 shooting

Mitchell 18 months older, Simmons 20 months older than JT

Crazy.

Simmons isn't a scorer, plus a years difference is not a big deal..


A year is a big difference at that age. They’re still growing. A year in the gym, bulking up and learning the game, that’s not a difference?
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Post#3320 » by Darth Celtic » Sun May 6, 2018 4:01 am

kingofthecourt67 wrote:
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Careful..you're on the verge of needing to be humbled.


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:lol: :lol: Just make sure you don't predict a victory next game or there will be a mob out for you


You know it has nothing to do with predicting a win. Many Celtics fans would pick the Sixers in game 4.

This is all about Superdario and his takes on the Celtics youth.

Saric is better than Brown and on the same level as a prospect as Tatum. Simmons and Embiid are so much better than even the all stars on the Celtics right now at age 21 ish. The Celtics have no chance to win the series, and most the games.

Saying Sixers win in 6 and Will take game 2 is different than saying the Celtics have no chance to win.

One is a prediction, one is disrespectful. Most the sixers fans I've seen have been just fine.
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