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Re: Winter is Here: Welcome Dario Saric 

Post#1141 » by rzzzzz » Fri May 11, 2018 6:11 pm

i still get the feeling that he's adjusted to the scheme he finds himself in rather than performed in anything built around his specific talents, which are more heady than his mediocre athleticism (by NBA standards). he kind of reminds me of the kind of guy who the old Celtics used to win titles with.
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Re: Winter is Here: Welcome Dario Saric 

Post#1142 » by Gordon » Fri May 11, 2018 10:32 pm

2nd best Sixer at the time. He is currently better than Ben. And if Ben refuses to acknowledgde his shooting problems, it may stay thtat way. Though Simmons with average jumper`s celing is much higher than Dario`s. But exit interviews make me worry a bit, Ben doesn`t even seem to graps to what exent his non existent jumper hurt us against the Celtics.
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Post#1143 » by LloydFree » Fri May 11, 2018 11:32 pm

Gordon wrote:2nd best Sixer at the time. He is currently better than Ben. And if Ben refuses to acknowledgde his shooting problems, it may stay thtat way. Though Simmons with average jumper`s celing is much higher than Dario`s. But exit interviews make me worry a bit, Ben doesn`t even seem to graps to what exent his non existent jumper hurt us against the Celtics.

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Re: Winter is Here: Welcome Dario Saric 

Post#1144 » by joyeuxnoel » Sat May 12, 2018 12:48 am

76ciology wrote:He can learn a thing or two from Horford and specially, Morris. You don’t need good athleticism to excel.


morris no, morris is awful. Definitely from horford though i agree with that
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Re: Winter is Here: Welcome Dario Saric 

Post#1145 » by PhilasFinest » Sat May 12, 2018 1:10 am

Gordon wrote:2nd best Sixer at the time. He is currently better than Ben. And if Ben refuses to acknowledgde his shooting problems, it may stay thtat way. Though Simmons with average jumper`s celing is much higher than Dario`s. But exit interviews make me worry a bit, Ben doesn`t even seem to graps to what exent his non existent jumper hurt us against the Celtics.


Cmon man.
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Re: Winter is Here: Welcome Dario Saric 

Post#1146 » by Kirk Van Houten » Sat May 12, 2018 1:26 am

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Gordon wrote:2nd best Sixer at the time. He is currently better than Ben. And if Ben refuses to acknowledgde his shooting problems, it may stay thtat way. Though Simmons with average jumper`s celing is much higher than Dario`s. But exit interviews make me worry a bit, Ben doesn`t even seem to graps to what exent his non existent jumper hurt us against the Celtics.


Cmon man.


Couldn’t agree more Saric is currently better than Ben that’s pretty clear after the playoffs. Ben has the potential to be great but it all hangs on his ability to work on that jumper and at least get a midrange game going. Can’t wait to see how both of them progress over the break.


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Re: Winter is Here: Welcome Dario Saric 

Post#1147 » by PhilasFinest » Sat May 12, 2018 1:38 am

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PhilasFinest wrote:
Gordon wrote:2nd best Sixer at the time. He is currently better than Ben. And if Ben refuses to acknowledgde his shooting problems, it may stay thtat way. Though Simmons with average jumper`s celing is much higher than Dario`s. But exit interviews make me worry a bit, Ben doesn`t even seem to graps to what exent his non existent jumper hurt us against the Celtics.


Cmon man.


Couldn’t agree more Saric is currently better than Ben that’s pretty clear after the playoffs. Ben has the potential to be great but it all hangs on his ability to work on that jumper and at least get a midrange game going. Can’t wait to see how both of them progress over the break.


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He might be a better shooter then Ben, but he's not a better player.
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Re: Winter is Here: Welcome Dario Saric 

Post#1148 » by MR28 » Sat May 12, 2018 3:49 am

Dario didn't even play well this series.
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Post#1149 » by LloydFree » Sat May 12, 2018 8:24 am

Teams build their defensive game plans around slowing down or stopping Ben Simmons. There was no time during the season or playoffs that Saric was a focal point of any defense. He's the player the other team wants to take the shots. When he's on defense, he's the player the team runs picks to get isolated to attack. Of all the absurd things I've read on this board, Saric being a better basketball player than Ben Simmons has got to be the top. Saric is the fifth starter on this team. He isn't even as important as JJ Redick.
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Re: Winter is Here: Welcome Dario Saric 

Post#1150 » by feynman » Sat May 12, 2018 9:37 am

LloydFree wrote:Teams build their defensive game plans around slowing down or stopping Ben Simmons. There was no time during the season or playoffs that Saric was a focal point of any defense. He's the player the other team wants to take the shots. When he's on defense, he's the player the team runs picks to get isolated to attack. Of all the absurd things I've read on this board, Saric being a better basketball player than Ben Simmons has got to be the top. Saric is the fifth starter on this team. He isn't even as important as JJ Redick.


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Re: Winter is Here: Welcome Dario Saric 

Post#1151 » by bobbeaver » Sat May 12, 2018 8:55 pm

LloydFree wrote:Teams build their defensive game plans around slowing down or stopping Ben Simmons. There was no time during the season or playoffs that Saric was a focal point of any defense. He's the player the other team wants to take the shots. When he's on defense, he's the player the team runs picks to get isolated to attack. Of all the absurd things I've read on this board, Saric being a better basketball player than Ben Simmons has got to be the top. Saric is the fifth starter on this team. He isn't even as important as JJ Redick.

:lol: :lol: :lol: you are trolling. You must be. Saric atually had a better defensive effort than Redick, he shot better than Redick, infact in PO he was one of the best players on 76ers. And Redick was by far better than complete disaster of a player named Covington. He was second best. And he got steadily better as PO progressed infact. Ben was not that good on D and made multiple crucial mistakes in crunch time moments. Saric got angry and got better.
Noone is saying Ben has less potential, he has far more. but right now in PO Saric did everything.
Like Bostons coach Brad Stevens said he is the most underrated player on Sixers. Ppl should be talking about Saric not just Biid or Ben. Brad said he made stopping Saric crucial part of his defensive schemes.
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Post#1152 » by LloydFree » Sat May 12, 2018 9:41 pm

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LloydFree wrote:Teams build their defensive game plans around slowing down or stopping Ben Simmons. There was no time during the season or playoffs that Saric was a focal point of any defense. He's the player the other team wants to take the shots. When he's on defense, he's the player the team runs picks to get isolated to attack. Of all the absurd things I've read on this board, Saric being a better basketball player than Ben Simmons has got to be the top. Saric is the fifth starter on this team. He isn't even as important as JJ Redick.

:lol: :lol: :lol: you are trolling. You must be. Saric atually had a better defensive effort than Redick, he shot better than Redick, infact in PO he was one of the best players on 76ers. And Redick was by far better than complete disaster of a player named Covington. He was second best. And he got steadily better as PO progressed infact. Ben was not that good on D and made multiple crucial mistakes in crunch time moments. Saric got angry and got better.
Noone is saying Ben has less potential, he has far more. but right now in PO Saric did everything.
Like Bostons coach Brad Stevens said he is the most underrated player on Sixers. Ppl should be talking about Saric not just Biid or Ben. Brad said he made stopping Saric crucial part of his defensive schemes.

Teams game plan to take out Redick. Teams don't even guard Saric.
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Re: Winter is Here: Welcome Dario Saric 

Post#1153 » by TTP » Sat May 12, 2018 10:05 pm

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LloydFree wrote:Teams build their defensive game plans around slowing down or stopping Ben Simmons. There was no time during the season or playoffs that Saric was a focal point of any defense. He's the player the other team wants to take the shots. When he's on defense, he's the player the team runs picks to get isolated to attack. Of all the absurd things I've read on this board, Saric being a better basketball player than Ben Simmons has got to be the top. Saric is the fifth starter on this team. He isn't even as important as JJ Redick.

:lol: :lol: :lol: you are trolling. You must be. Saric atually had a better defensive effort than Redick, he shot better than Redick, infact in PO he was one of the best players on 76ers. And Redick was by far better than complete disaster of a player named Covington. He was second best. And he got steadily better as PO progressed infact. Ben was not that good on D and made multiple crucial mistakes in crunch time moments. Saric got angry and got better.
Noone is saying Ben has less potential, he has far more. but right now in PO Saric did everything.
Like Bostons coach Brad Stevens said he is the most underrated player on Sixers. Ppl should be talking about Saric not just Biid or Ben. Brad said he made stopping Saric crucial part of his defensive schemes.


The Celtics gameplan involved denying Redick getting the ball and completely smothering him when he did. They welcomed the Saric postups. Saying that Saric shot better isn't a great argument because the degree of difficulty of their attempts wasn't comparable.

Ben was definitely garbage though.
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Re: Winter is Here: Welcome Dario Saric 

Post#1154 » by bobbeaver » Sat May 12, 2018 10:27 pm

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LloydFree wrote:Teams build their defensive game plans around slowing down or stopping Ben Simmons. There was no time during the season or playoffs that Saric was a focal point of any defense. He's the player the other team wants to take the shots. When he's on defense, he's the player the team runs picks to get isolated to attack. Of all the absurd things I've read on this board, Saric being a better basketball player than Ben Simmons has got to be the top. Saric is the fifth starter on this team. He isn't even as important as JJ Redick.

:lol: :lol: :lol: you are trolling. You must be. Saric atually had a better defensive effort than Redick, he shot better than Redick, infact in PO he was one of the best players on 76ers. And Redick was by far better than complete disaster of a player named Covington. He was second best. And he got steadily better as PO progressed infact. Ben was not that good on D and made multiple crucial mistakes in crunch time moments. Saric got angry and got better.
Noone is saying Ben has less potential, he has far more. but right now in PO Saric did everything.
Like Bostons coach Brad Stevens said he is the most underrated player on Sixers. Ppl should be talking about Saric not just Biid or Ben. Brad said he made stopping Saric crucial part of his defensive schemes.


The Celtics gameplan involved denying Redick getting the ball and completely smothering him when he did. They welcomed the Saric postups. Saying that Saric shot better isn't a great argument because the degree of difficulty of their attempts wasn't comparable.

Ben was definitely garbage though.

Well im just saying what Brad said. Both about him as a player and about his D schemes. And well it says something that Saric still was producing in volume last 2 games at 50% clip after he adapted (granted 2 games too late). Redick got smothered and couldnt produce at all. It does say something atleast about Sarices versatility. Although he got also same 3s at a high rate aswell while being smothered aswell.
And sure degree of attempts was different. But players made them different because of the Offensive tools they can use in their arsenal.
Im not saying he s perfect. Noone on Sixers was. But in that settings sixers were in he was the second fiddle.
P.s. what do you think guy above you wrote that teams dont guard Saric at all n thats why he has the numbers he has?
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Post#1155 » by bobbeaver » Sat May 12, 2018 10:35 pm

LloydFree wrote:
bobbeaver wrote:
LloydFree wrote:Teams build their defensive game plans around slowing down or stopping Ben Simmons. There was no time during the season or playoffs that Saric was a focal point of any defense. He's the player the other team wants to take the shots. When he's on defense, he's the player the team runs picks to get isolated to attack. Of all the absurd things I've read on this board, Saric being a better basketball player than Ben Simmons has got to be the top. Saric is the fifth starter on this team. He isn't even as important as JJ Redick.

:lol: :lol: :lol: you are trolling. You must be. Saric atually had a better defensive effort than Redick, he shot better than Redick, infact in PO he was one of the best players on 76ers. And Redick was by far better than complete disaster of a player named Covington. He was second best. And he got steadily better as PO progressed infact. Ben was not that good on D and made multiple crucial mistakes in crunch time moments. Saric got angry and got better.
Noone is saying Ben has less potential, he has far more. but right now in PO Saric did everything.
Like Bostons coach Brad Stevens said he is the most underrated player on Sixers. Ppl should be talking about Saric not just Biid or Ben. Brad said he made stopping Saric crucial part of his defensive schemes.

Teams game plan to take out Redick. Teams don't even guard Saric.

Teams dont guard a 40% 3 pt shooter, guy with 16 pts average and 4 assists pg. Right. I guess other teams are masochists and like loosing.
Just cause they wanted to neutralize one weapon doesnt mean they let others be, not in Cs playbook or Miamis. I guess they love it when he drops 25 and 27 points on them at a 50% :lol: .
Im sure you think since Saric is bottom of the barrel player he was worse than Covington?
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Post#1156 » by TTP » Sat May 12, 2018 10:38 pm

bobbeaver wrote:
TTP wrote:
bobbeaver wrote: :lol: :lol: :lol: you are trolling. You must be. Saric atually had a better defensive effort than Redick, he shot better than Redick, infact in PO he was one of the best players on 76ers. And Redick was by far better than complete disaster of a player named Covington. He was second best. And he got steadily better as PO progressed infact. Ben was not that good on D and made multiple crucial mistakes in crunch time moments. Saric got angry and got better.
Noone is saying Ben has less potential, he has far more. but right now in PO Saric did everything.
Like Bostons coach Brad Stevens said he is the most underrated player on Sixers. Ppl should be talking about Saric not just Biid or Ben. Brad said he made stopping Saric crucial part of his defensive schemes.


The Celtics gameplan involved denying Redick getting the ball and completely smothering him when he did. They welcomed the Saric postups. Saying that Saric shot better isn't a great argument because the degree of difficulty of their attempts wasn't comparable.

Ben was definitely garbage though.

Well im just saying what Brad said. Both about him as a player and about his D schemes. And well it says something that Saric still was producing in volume last 2 games at 50% clip after he adapted (granted 2 games too late). Redick got smothered and couldnt produce at all. It does say something atleast about Sarices versatility. Although he got also same 3s at a high rate aswell while being smothered aswell.
And sure degree of attempts was different. But players made them different because of the Offensive tools they can use in their arsenal.
Im not saying he s perfect. Noone on Sixers was. But in that settings sixers were in he was the second fiddle.


Redick getting smothered was mostly because of how ineffective Simmons was. The effectiveness of Redick, Covington, and Belinelli are going to be linked to the effectiveness of Simmons. They need him to give them space and to get them quality shots. Saric is slightly less dependent than they are because he can get his own shots on occasion, though he obviously also suffers from Ben's struggles. Hopefully in a year or two, Simmons will either have enough of a shot to be threatening or have figured out ways to be more effective without a shot.
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Post#1157 » by LloydFree » Sat May 12, 2018 10:40 pm

bobbeaver wrote:
LloydFree wrote:
bobbeaver wrote: :lol: :lol: :lol: you are trolling. You must be. Saric atually had a better defensive effort than Redick, he shot better than Redick, infact in PO he was one of the best players on 76ers. And Redick was by far better than complete disaster of a player named Covington. He was second best. And he got steadily better as PO progressed infact. Ben was not that good on D and made multiple crucial mistakes in crunch time moments. Saric got angry and got better.
Noone is saying Ben has less potential, he has far more. but right now in PO Saric did everything.
Like Bostons coach Brad Stevens said he is the most underrated player on Sixers. Ppl should be talking about Saric not just Biid or Ben. Brad said he made stopping Saric crucial part of his defensive schemes.

Teams game plan to take out Redick. Teams don't even guard Saric.

Teams dont guard a 40% 3 pt shooter, guy with 16 pts average and 4 assists pg. Right. I guess other teams are masochists and like loosing.
Just cause they wanted to neutralize one weapon doesnt mean they let others be, not in Cs playbook or Miamis. I guess they love it when he drops 25 and 27 points on them at a 50% :lol: .
Im sure you think since Saric is bottom of the barrel player he was worse than Covington?

Offensively Covington is worse than Saric. Defensively, Saric isn't on the same planet as Covington (or Simmons).
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Re: Winter is Here: Welcome Dario Saric 

Post#1158 » by maRioGrande » Sun May 13, 2018 8:54 am

LloydFree wrote:
bobbeaver wrote:
LloydFree wrote:Teams build their defensive game plans around slowing down or stopping Ben Simmons. There was no time during the season or playoffs that Saric was a focal point of any defense. He's the player the other team wants to take the shots. When he's on defense, he's the player the team runs picks to get isolated to attack. Of all the absurd things I've read on this board, Saric being a better basketball player than Ben Simmons has got to be the top. Saric is the fifth starter on this team. He isn't even as important as JJ Redick.

:lol: :lol: :lol: you are trolling. You must be. Saric atually had a better defensive effort than Redick, he shot better than Redick, infact in PO he was one of the best players on 76ers. And Redick was by far better than complete disaster of a player named Covington. He was second best. And he got steadily better as PO progressed infact. Ben was not that good on D and made multiple crucial mistakes in crunch time moments. Saric got angry and got better.
Noone is saying Ben has less potential, he has far more. but right now in PO Saric did everything.
Like Bostons coach Brad Stevens said he is the most underrated player on Sixers. Ppl should be talking about Saric not just Biid or Ben. Brad said he made stopping Saric crucial part of his defensive schemes.

Teams game plan to take out Redick. Teams don't even guard Saric.

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Post#1159 » by maRioGrande » Sun May 13, 2018 9:02 am

Cov is average defender, don't have to be to smart to figure it out. As a player, he is not on the same planet as Dario. Don't have to be to smart to figure that out too.
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Post#1160 » by 76ciology » Sun May 13, 2018 9:06 am

Teams game plan on JJ but also guards Saric.
Teams attack Jj and Saric on D.
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